RTE slams "secret" producer for telling the truth?

hatrickpatrick

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Sorry, I just realised that this individual is still working with RTE.

That makes it worse.

So basically, whistleblowing is never ok then?

Billy86

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

So basically, whistleblowing is never ok then?

Especially when it's whistleblowing about what comes out of the taxpayers pocket!

VinLieger

Asked someone i know whos in there and apparently its legit, people going nuts in there about it due to it all being pretty much true

Stonedpilot

Sure he's bringing up RTE staff coked up at sex parties.

Not!.

Vojera

mzungu wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/rté-vows-to-punish-person-behind-anonymous-twitter-account-1.3222765

I notice they say "We'll punish the person writing these tweets" rather than "These tweets are a load of bollocks".

Says a lot, imo.

MilesMorales1

I'd love to see them dish the dirt on Fair City.

Billy86

Vojera wrote: »

I notice they say "We'll punish the person writing these tweets" rather than "These tweets are a load of bollocks".

Says a lot, imo.

Yep, and it also says a lot that their response is not even make a statement about looking internally at the farce that has been exposed which occurs on the public's TV licence money but to focus on finding and punishing the person who exposed them.

RTE, tone deaf as ever. Which is -exactly- what a lot of his tweets were getting at.

Rumpy Pumpy

I'm in a minority it would appear, but think RTE do a fairly good job in general. Certainly get more bang for your buck with their output, than with the ridiculous sums SKY charge for endless repeats, hyped up sports events, and tabloid 24 hour news.

L1011

Lots of the posts could be written by anyone who has read The Phoenix over the past few years; any level of "insider info" could be got by an intern with an rte.ie email addy and access to their intranet. There really is nothing to see here.

hatrickpatrick

Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »

I'm in a minority it would appear, but think RTE do a fairly good job in general. Certainly get more bang for your buck with their output, than with the ridiculous sums SKY charge for endless repeats, hyped up sports events, and tabloid 24 hour news.

I'd agree with you, but that doesn't mean that there aren't issues - and that, like literally everything else in Irish public life, nobody is ever punished or held accountable for either creating or failing to fix them.

Billy86

L1011 wrote: »

Lots of the posts could be written by anyone who has read The Phoenix over the past few years; any level of "insider info" could be got by an intern with an rte.ie email addy and access to their intranet. There really is nothing to see here.

RTE would appearto disagree.

L1011

Billy86 wrote: »

RTE would appearto disagree.

No, newspapers looking to get newsprint out of it saying so would appear to disagree.

The media in Ireland is small and incestuous. You can work for a private media firm and know intimate details about RTE, and other private media firms, very very easily.

I worked in commercial TV over a decade ago in the UK and commercial radio in Ireland more recently and I knew everything being "revealed" on that account; I just didn't see any need to present it as news. Anything "scandalous" is known via our tiny investigative media already.

I suspect the Twitter poster does work for RTE. I suspect they are not as important as they think they are. I suspect they work in kids production (yPP) as they seem obsessed with that. What they're saying is true but its absolutely not news.

jimbobalob309

who is this bosie? some former disgruntled staff member i'd guess?

eoghanhickey

Sam Kade wrote: »

alchemist33 wrote: »

Looks like a publicity stunt to me.

Exactly, RTE is dying on it's feet and they are desperately trying to justify themselves.

I don't see how it helps RTE if I'm honest. Like, the whole idea that there's no such thing as bad publicity isn't actually true. George Hook has had quite a bit recently, and that hasn't really benefitted him or Newstalk. Some interesting reasons on the Twitter acc. given to why the TV programmes look so cheap (essentially unionised), or to the lack of ambition or enthusiasm around the place.

oppenheimer1

L1011 wrote: »

No, newspapers looking to get newsprint out of it saying so would appear to disagree.

The media in Ireland is small and incestuous. You can work for a private media firm and know intimate details about RTE, and other private media firms, very very easily.

I worked in commercial TV over a decade ago in the UK and commercial radio in Ireland more recently and I knew everything being "revealed" on that account; I just didn't see any need to present it as news. Anything "scandalous" is known via our tiny investigative media already.

I suspect the Twitter poster does work for RTE. I suspect they are not as important as they think they are. I suspect they work in kids production (yPP) as they seem obsessed with that. What they're saying is true but its absolutely not news.

Perhaps it was widely known in media and insider circles, but it's not widely known among the general public that pay the license fee. That is the point of this Twitter account.

I mean why should license payers be funding such a wasteful organisation, (see the protectionist behaviour of the cameraman unions) and then RTE have the gall to ask the public to pay more. RTE need to shift the deadwood, adopt the modern working practices everyone else has.

This Twitter account fundamentally undermines RTEs appeal to the government for more license money. That's why it's causing such problems for RTE management.

ZeroThreat

eoghanhickey wrote: »

I don't see how it helps RTE if I'm honest. Like, the whole idea that there's no such thing as bad publicity isn't actually true. George Hook has had quite a bit recently, and that hasn't really benefitted him or Newstalk. Some interesting reasons on the Twitter acc. given to why the TV programmes look so cheap (essentially unionised), or to the lack of ambition or enthusiasm around the place.

I did find the remark quite amusing that RTE is the opposite of Logan's Run - there's virtually no one under 30 there.

Just a lot of wheezebags & boring old farts that need to be put out to pasture such as Marian Finucane and Joe Duffy.

eoghanhickey

ZeroThreat wrote: »

eoghanhickey wrote: »

I don't see how it helps RTE if I'm honest. Like, the whole idea that there's no such thing as bad publicity isn't actually true. George Hook has had quite a bit recently, and that hasn't really benefitted him or Newstalk. Some interesting reasons on the Twitter acc. given to why the TV programmes look so cheap (essentially unionised), or to the lack of ambition or enthusiasm around the place.

I did find the remark quite amusing that RTE is the opposite of Logan's Run - there's virtually no one under 30 there.

Just a lot of wheezebags & boring old farts that need to be put out to pasture such as Marian Finucane and Joe Duffy.

Yeah, I think the Logan's run reference itself kinda speaks to the demographic

DEFTLEFTHAND

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

So basically, whistleblowing is never ok then?

Unless there's something sinister going on then no.

Nobody likes a Rat or a Stool Pigeon.

It's the most dishonourable thing a man could do.

thesandeman

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I'm lost where's the dirt?

He's off this week because his programme had to make another apology to Ryanair.

hatrickpatrick

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Unless there's something sinister going on then no.

Nobody likes a Rat or a Stool Pigeon.

It's the most dishonourable thing a man could do.

Personally I'd regard ineptitude and crappy management in an organisation which is wasting massive amounts of taxpayers' money while demanding more and more as something sinister. Maybe that's just me...

maudgonner

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Unless there's something sinister going on then no.

Nobody likes a Rat or a Stool Pigeon.

It's the most dishonourable thing a man could do.

I fúcking hate this attitude. If something is being done wrong then I think it's right, brave even, to call that out. The people who sit back and do nothing, just claim their fat paycheques, are the ones who should be examining their conscience.

ZeroThreat

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Unless there's something sinister going on then no.

Nobody likes a Rat or a Stool Pigeon.

It's the most dishonourable thing a man could do.

It's disgusting as a previous Garda commissioner put it.

Irish Guitarist

I'm a bigwig at RTE and I can tell you for a fact that everything he says is true. And that's only the half of it.

I remember the time Ryan Tubridy brought in a live wombat and he and Anne Doyle started using it as a football. I don't know if you've ever heard a wombat cry but it's one of the most sickening things you can imagine.

Hammer89

3/ Stumpy was written out of Love/Hate because the actor in real life called Ray D'arcy a f*ggot.

Billy86

From this morning (several tweets pasted together):

RTE are considering hiring a PI to find out who I am. Consider that. The national broadcaster, using licence fee money, to track a whistleblower. Who is just trying to show what needs to change to save the organisation. How does @rtenews view unmasking whistleblowers? How does the NUJ? Rather than address the issues, just destroy the person airing them. So I have been busy, there is a second account with 500 tweets written, ready to send. If I lose access to this account. All I want to do is show the things that need to change to save a broadcaster that is vital for Ireland. Profound disloyalty is staying quiet. I'm disgusted. I would ask if anyone values this, to contact rte, or their local reps. I have been contacted by over 50 people inside RTE. I have been contacted by people in news, current affairs, sport, entertainment, it, editing, lighting, radio, internet. With stories and supporting me. Are they all profoundly disloyal - we who have given our lives to an organisation? Who care about it? I am heartbroken.

Bolded emphasis is my own. Good to know the TV licence money RTE want more of isn't being p*ssed away on their own pride.

Kermit.de.frog

It's RTE giving this legs. A private investigator???

hatrickpatrick

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

It's RTE giving this legs. A private investigator???

The Streisand Effect, as always. If they hadn't commented, people could easily have dismissed this guy as a crank. Now they've all but confirmed that his allegations are legitimate - and that they're obviously incredibly embarrassed by them.

Muppetry and eejitism.

mzungu

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

I'd love to see them dish the dirt on Fair City.

Fair City is a scandal in itself tbf!

George White

I hope that this leads to some kind of Yewtree-type conspiracy that brings down the old guard at RTE. Destroys the boys' club.

buried

If they really are hiring a private investigator to find out who this person is, that just makes it even more hilarious.
Can't utilize one of their own investigative journalists to find out what's going on due to the fact they can't investigate anything at all.