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Ibrahim Halawa acquited(mod warning in op-Heed it)

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    #272
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    Because he was put into prison based on the fact that he was speaking at that rally.

    Surely it would be of some journalistic interest to at least ask:

    "Ibrahim, you were on your holliers and somehow ended up speaking at a Muslim Brotherhood rally. Why?"

    The protest was peaceful?


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    #273
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    super_furry wrote: »
    On a post leaving cert holiday to visit family. This is well established.

    And I'm guessing he took a wrong turn up the wrong street, tripped and fell up the stairs of that Muslim Brotherhood platform and accidentally ended up with a mic in his hand.
    He's another Islamist using a passport to advance his Islamist ideology. Seems obvious except to the morons who run the Irish state.


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    #274
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    He's another Islamist using a passport to advance his Islamist ideology. Seems obvious except to the morons who run the Irish state.

    How do you know this?


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    #275
    super_furry
    Registered Users Posts: 27,322 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    He's another Islamist using a passport to advance his Islamist ideology. Seems obvious except to the morons who run the Irish state.

    Have you informed the Gardai of this?


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    #276
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    smelly sock wrote: »
    The protest was peaceful?

    I don't care what he says about the rally as long as someone at least asks the question. To at least prove there is some journalistic integrity left in this country.

    But as I said, the media will be too neutered to even do that.


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    #277
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    super_furry wrote: »
    A Little Pony wrote: »
    He's another Islamist using a passport to advance his Islamist ideology. Seems obvious except to the morons who run the Irish state.

    Have you informed the Gardai of this?
    The Gardai have lots of Islamists running about Ireland, not exactly the best police force.


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    #278
    super_furry
    Registered Users Posts: 27,322 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    The Gardai have lots of Islamists running about Ireland, not exactly the best police force.

    Wow. So you're much better informed than the Gardai and the state intelligence and security agencies? How you considered offering them your services?


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    #279
    wonderfullife
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    Royal Legend wrote: »
    When I lived in London I was Irish, When I lived in Aberdeen I was Irish, when Ibrahim lived in Ireland he was Eqyptian, how hard is that for you to follow?

    Literally dozens of my extended family are born and bred in England. They consider themselves English AND Irish. They were raised by Irish parents with Irish traditions in England. They love their home (England) and they consider themselves Irish too.

    That is literally no different here. Ibrahim was born and bred in Ireland to Egyptian heritage. The fact he would feel BOTH Irish and Egyptian is 100% normal.

    You're comparing an apple with a tractor.


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    #280
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    super_furry wrote: »
    Wow. So you're much better informed than the Gardai and the state intelligence and security agencies? How you considered offering them your services?

    Somehow I don't think ALP would be too impressed with the rate they'd be willing to offer him/her... :pac:


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    #281
    testaccount123
    Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    super_furry wrote: »
    Have you informed the Gardai of this?

    I think even the Gardai are on top of the intelligence that ties Halawa to the Muslim brotherhood.


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    #282
    tomwaterford
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    A Little Pony wrote: »
    The Gardai have lots of Islamists running about Ireland, not exactly the best police force.

    If these lads are a threat to ireland (as I assume there must be some who are?)

    Why are they not charged (or even queationed) under offences against the state


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    #283
    super_furry
    Registered Users Posts: 27,322 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    tomwaterford wrote: »
    If these lads are a threat to ireland (as I assume there must be some who are?)

    Why are they not charged (or even queationed) under offences against the state

    Come on, what would the Gardai know about dealing with terrorists? It's not like they have any experience of terrorism or working against illegal paramilitary organisations in Ireland.


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    #284
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    testaccount123 wrote: »
    I think even the Gardai are on top of the intelligence that ties Halawa to the Muslim brotherhood.
    Probably have been for a bit, whether it's founded or not - which is good. I'd assume he'd have a few rounds of questioning, be put in touch with social services like psychology, care services etc to keep him monitored, get him reintegrated and whatnot. I've got no issue with that and doubt many do, though if they've not come up with anything at this point I think we'll have a few people continuing to be upset over the outcome!


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    #285
    Barry Badrinath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Most if not all of your post is your opinion and not backed up by any fact whatsoever.

    We cannot start locking people up or deporting based on fear and what we think they might do.

    Of we remove civil liberties and due process what sort of society are we then.

    Im sorry, what was not factual about my post?

    I never mentioned anything about "locking people up", nor "deporting based on fear" or "removing civil liberties".

    I did ask that people question why they were there, did you do that?


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    #286
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »
    Im sorry, what was not factual about my post?

    I never mentioned anything about "locking people up", nor "deporting based on fear" or "removing civil liberties".

    I did ask that people question why they were there, did you do that?

    All of it was your opinion son. You cant back any of it up.


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    #287
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »
    Im sorry, what was not factual about my post?

    I never mentioned anything about "locking people up", nor "deporting based on fear" or "removing civil liberties".

    I did ask that people question why they were there, did you do that?

    They were there protesting peacefully against a military coup of an elected government.


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    #288
    dixiedan
    Registered Users Posts: 797 ✭✭✭dixiedan


    optogirl wrote: »
    Their brother has just been released from prison after 4 years...at one point he was seriously ill and I'm sure they thought he would die there. Think I'd do a bit of whooping myself in that situation.

    It's apparently called ululation, performed mostly in the middle east :)


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md7OvU5JIcI


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    #289
    testaccount123
    Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    smelly sock wrote: »
    They were there protesting peacefully against a military coup of an elected government.

    A military coup against an elected Islamist government.

    Tiny little detail you missed there.


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    #290
    tomwaterford
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    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Trump said just hours after it happened saying they knew who it was. It's an absolute disgrace and they got so lucky that the sheer incompetence didn't get potentially hundreds of people slaughtered. Look at how easy it was for the guy to just carry an explosive device in a shopping bag into a tube station. You have thousands of people like that guy all over the UK and Ireland.

    Trump is being a pure dope by playing to crowd like that (think he lied myself tbh)

    Long term britain is going to stop sharing info with the Americans If there head man is leaking like that,



    But it is a scary prospect though :(


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    #291
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    testaccount123 wrote: »
    A military coup against an elected Islamist government.

    Tiny little detail you missed there.

    Democracy.


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    #292
    Arsemageddon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    testaccount123 wrote: »
    A military coup against an elected Islamist government.

    Tiny little detail you missed there.

    I'm well aware of their agenda, the clue is in their name.


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    #293
    Pero_Bueno
    Closed Accounts Posts: 502 ✭✭✭Pero_Bueno


    Deleted User wrote: »
    He was only a kid of 17

    Yeah - I went through a tough phase of supporting terrorists and gays to be executed when I was 17 - it was grand though by the time I was 20 I had grown out of it sure.


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    #294
    prinzeugen
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    smelly sock wrote: »
    They were there protesting peacefully against a military coup of an elected government.

    So they were not on holiday then?


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    #295
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Pero_Bueno wrote: »
    Yeah - I went through a tough phase of supporting terrorists and gays to be executed when I was 17 - it was grand though by the time I was 20 I had grown out of it sure.

    Good for you. Well done.


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    #296
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    prinzeugen wrote: »
    So they were not on holiday then?

    They were but managed to slot the protest in before a visit to the pyramids.


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    #297
    testaccount123
    Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Democracy.

    Oh thats grand then, revolutionary fundamentalist Islamists are grand as long as enough semi-literate nutters in some backwater vote for them in an election :rolleyes:


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    #298
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    testaccount123 wrote: »
    Oh thats grand then, revolutionary fundamentalist Islamists are grand as long as enough semi-literate nutters in some backwater vote for them in an election :rolleyes:

    You dont quite have the grasp of democracy yet.


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    #299
    Beechwoodspark
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    dixiedan wrote: »
    It's apparently called ululation, performed mostly in the middle east :)


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md7OvU5JIcI

    Dreadful racket. No need for it.


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    #300
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    #ibrahim4thedail.


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    #301
    testaccount123
    Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    smelly sock wrote: »
    You dont quite have the grasp of democracy yet.

    I grasp democracy perfectly well. A large amount of people in the middle east vote for Islamists. These people are not very nice.


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