Ibrahim Halawa acquited(mod warning in op-Heed it)

K.Flyer

First Up wrote: »

Neither is paranoid exaggeration.

Huge rise in Muslims living in ireland over the last decade is exactly the term used by friends of mine who are Muslims themselves.
Not the very scientific data based reference that you may prefer, but if you feel they have exaggerated through paranoia go knock yourself out :pac: :pac: :pac:

gozunda

AlekSmart wrote: »

Quite an illustrative photo in this article...

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/im-the-luckiest-man-in-the-world-ibrahim-halawa-honours-his-five-sisters-at-the-tatler-women-of-the-year-awards-36271379.html

It is interesting that we now have 5 sisters being lauded,which is interesting,if only to underline how much media time was allotted to the activities and views of the 3 who were centre-stage with Ibrahim in Cairo.

This situation is only getting legs here,so be prepared for the long haul,or at least a haul as long as the,just ended,Egyptian one.

And yet again Mammy Halawa is completely missing from this latest public relations opportunity

Why is that? According to newspaper reports at the time Mammy Halawa was in Egypt whilst her son was held in prison. His mammy apparently queued in line the scorching heat to bring home cooked food to her starved son ...

Why is his mammy who did what none of the rest of the family bothered to do ie go to Egypt and look after IH ever - not allowed to be acknowledged instead of the erstwhile sleeping Prince and his 'beautiful' (his description) sisters ...

jmayo

mynamejeff wrote: »

Three of the " Kids " Katherine Zappone rescued form the Jungle in France were placed in a former care home facility in Wicklow

one vanished with in a few days and hasnt been located since
http://ireland.missing.report/armend-ajazi-roundwood/

one has been caught three times at the ferry terminal trying to get back to france

and one is living on the streets of dublin supporting a fine drug problen

But they needed to be rescued right ?

mynamejeff wrote: »

people in the social care sector talk

do you hear any media about these people who were brought here allegedly at 17 and are now missing ?

strange that isnt it

Actually I don't think any of the citizens of Roundwood or it's hinterland have been informed that a 17 year old youngster is missing in their area.

A youngster of totally unknown providence much like those youngsters from the same background that ended up in Germany, Sweden, UK only to carry out criminal and physical attacks, primarily on unsuspecting females.

Oh and the Garda in Roundwood are very quick to use text messaging to inform locals about suspicious vehicles in the area, but not a peep about a missing "minor" of unknown background. :rolleyes:

Keep the people in the dark and feed them bullshyte appears to be the adopted policy.

Omackeral wrote: »

The Halawa sisters got an award at the Tatler Woman of the Year Awards according to rte.ie.

Ibrahim Halawa surprised the audience in the Burlington Hotel in Dublin by arriving unannounced at the Women of the Year Awards to pay tribute to his five sisters for helping to secure his freedom.

Introduced to the stage by Irish Tatler publisher and organiser of the event, Norah Casey, he said: "I would like to thank Norah and Irish Tatler for having me but really I wouldn't be here if it weren't for my beautiful five sisters."

The audience continued to give Ibrahim and his sisters a standing ovation thoughout his speech.

Fooking Grade A muppets.

The_Kew_Tour

First Up wrote: »

Neither is paranoid exaggeration.

It was not me who admitted it. It was the CSO. Have a pop at them

First Up

The_Kew_Tour wrote:

It was not me who admitted it. It was the CSO. Have a pop at them

Sure; there's 150,000 radical muslims hiding in Rathmines just waiting for their order to attack.

The_Kew_Tour

First Up wrote: »

Sure; there's 150,000 radical muslims hiding in Rathmines just waiting for their order to attack.

I never said that more BS. I was referring to census. You showed a figure that most likely is wrong.

It was on Newstalk at end of September. 29th I think.

The CSO admitted it:pac:.

punisher5112

First Up wrote: »

Sure; there's 150,000 radical muslims hiding in Rathmines just waiting for their order to attack.

Well now you mention it isn't that where the one on the bridge in London was frequenting and ranelagh also.

Omackeral

First Up wrote: »

Sure; there's 150,000 radical muslims hiding in Rathmines just waiting for their order to attack.

You're style of debate is poisonous. Why not refute what's being put to you instead of this sarcastic stuff? It's really the last refuge of someone talking absolute boll*x.

Ash.J.Williams

jmayo wrote: »

Actually I don't think any of the citizens of Roundwood or it's hinterland have been informed that a 17 year old youngster is missing in their area.

A youngster of totally unknown providence much like those youngsters from the same background that ended up in Germany, Sweden, UK only to carry out criminal and physical attacks, primarily on unsuspecting females.

Oh and the Garda in Roundwood are very quick to use text messaging to inform locals about suspicious vehicles in the area, but not a peep about a missing "minor" of unknown background. :rolleyes:

Keep the people in the dark and feed them bullshyte appears to be the adopted policy.



Fooking Grade A muppets.

Good contribution bro

Will I Am Not

Omackeral wrote: »

You're style of debate is poisonous. Why not refute what's being put to you instead of this sarcastic stuff? It's really the last refuge of someone talking absolute boll*x.

Hear, hear.
I’m not all that bothered about the Halawas themselves but there is something a bit off about the whole situation. The main issue for me, in this thread and in general, is the mocking and insulting of anybody that dares to question anything about it.

People have their side chosen and will not even entertain the notion of anything to the contrary.

First Up

Omackeral wrote:

You're style of debate is poisonous. Why not refute what's being put to you instead of this sarcastic stuff? It's really the last refuge of someone talking absolute boll*x.

Just posting in the spirit of some of the hysterical rubbish and wild exaggeration that makes up most of this thread.

Will I Am Not

First Up wrote: »

Just posting in the spirit of some of the hysterical rubbish and wild exaggeration that makes up most of this thread.

Maybe do that to the people that are exaggerating like that?
Kew explained to you about the CSO admitting the statistics were wrong and you replied with that nonsense.

First Up

The Fake Sheikh wrote:

Here, here. I’m not all that bothered about the Halawas themselves but there is something a bit off about the whole situation. The main issue for me, in this thread and in general, is the mocking and insulting of anybody that dares to question anything about it.

Its hear hear by the way.

The kid got himself into a bad situation and paid a high price for it. He deserves sympathy, not demonisation. The attempts to label him as a terrorist or similar fully deserve to be mocked.

Will I Am Not

First Up wrote: »

Its hear hear by the way.

The kid got himself into a bad situation and paid a high price for it. He deserves sympathy, not demonisation. The attempts to label him as a terrorist or similar fully deserve to be mocked.

How have you managed to quote that 5 minutes after I edited it? And replied to someone else in between?

Matt.ie

Ibrahim's family confirmed for the first time this weekend that he had received a gunshot wound and that his jailers have refused to treat the injury.

"When they arrested us and Ibrahim was going out of the Mosque there was shooting between the police officers and the thugs and a bullet went through Ibrahim's hand and out the other side," Ibrahim's sister Somaia Halawa told the Sunday Independent.
"His hand is not OK, because they did not allow him to get stitches, which he should have got within 24 hours."

According to Somaia, the teenager's hand is now severely deformed with a 'finger bent out of place' and 'a lot of scarring'. However, luckily Ibrahim was put into a cell with a doctor, who was also arrested and has helped him to prevent infection.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/irish-teen-deformed-as-bullet-wound-left-untreated-in-prison-30319665.html




was this claim ever investigated? i cant find anything else on it ever being mentioned again. i think we can take it she,the sister, was telling lies about this bullet injury.

First Up

The Fake Sheikh wrote:

Maybe do that to the people that are exaggerating like that? Kew explained to you about the CSO admitting the statistics were wrong and you replied with that nonsense.

The CSO "admitted" nothing that can be extrapolated into a claim that the Muslim population of Ireland is underestimated by any more than the standard margin of error - which for census data is about one per thousand.

The nonsense going on here is not coming from me.

Will I Am Not

First Up wrote: »

Its hear hear by the way.

The kid got himself into a bad situation and paid a high price for it. He deserves sympathy, not demonisation. The attempts to label him as a terrorist or similar fully deserve to be mocked.

As I said, when someone calls him a terrorist or whatever, fire away with the sarcastic nonsense. When someone says that the CSO admitted to underestimating the figures then refuting it is probably the best course of action...

Gatling

Matt.ie wrote: »

Ibrahim's family confirmed for the first time this weekend that he had received a gunshot wound and that his jailers have refused to treat the injury.





was this claim ever investigated? i cant find anything else on it ever being mentioned again. i think we can take it she,the sister, was telling lies about this bullet injury.

Seen Various photo's since his release with both his hands raised and open,

Doesn't look like any bullet wounds are present

First Up

The Fake Sheikh wrote: »

As I said, when someone calls him a terrorist or whatever, fire away with the sarcastic nonsense. When someone says that the CSO admitted to underestimating the figures then refuting it is probably the best course of action...

Based on everything we know about young Hilawa (including what the Egyptian courts were able to uncover) there is zero basis for accusing him or even associating him with terrorism. As the claims and innuendo continue in defiance of these facts, a bit of sarcasm is the most appropriate way of responding.

The best way of responding to the claims about the census is to ask for details of how they support claims that the Muslim population of Ireland is much more than one percent.

First Up

Gatling wrote: »

Seen Various photo's since his release with both his hands raised and open,

Doesn't look like any bullet wounds are present

Nor would they be expected to be four years later.

smurgen

First Up wrote: »

Nor would they be expected to be four years later.

A bullet entering and exiting would leave visible disfiguration.he's not wolverine ffs.

Gatling

First Up wrote: »

Nor would they be expected to be four years later.

A bullet scar is for life not just for Christmas

First Up

smurgen wrote: »

A bullet entering and exiting would leave visible disfiguration.he's not wolverine ffs.

I don't know if he was shot or not but I wouldn't base a claim that he wasn't on a photo taken four years later.

Gatling

First Up wrote: »

I don't know if he was shot or not but I wouldn't base a claim that he wasn't on a photo taken four years later.

Why wouldn't you

First Up

Gatling wrote: »

Why wouldn't you

Because it isn't a proper assessment by a medical professional.

Gatling

First Up wrote: »

Because it isn't a proper assessment by a medical professional.

But a bullet entry and exit wound would produce significant damage and scaring and in a lot a cases broken bones ,

Here we see no damage to his hands which suggests he was not shot and not denied medical care

humberklog

Gatling wrote: »

A bullet scar is for life not just for Christmas

Or Eid.

emo72

You'd be crazy to accuse him off terrorism, or even being a supporter of it. People who do that are not thinking rationally.

What I have an issue with is his support of the Muslim Brotherhood. I think they are abhorrent, and we should have nothing to do with them.

gozunda

Omackeral wrote: »

You're style of debate is poisonous. Why not refute what's being put to you instead of this sarcastic stuff? It's really the last refuge of someone talking absolute boll*x.

I've had to add that poster to my ignore list. They appear to specialise in posts which avoid answering any questions and snattery responses. Ignoring it imo appears to best practice in order to stop the thread being continuously derailed ...

First Up

Gatling wrote:

Here we see no damage to his hands which suggests he was not shot and not denied medical care

I'll wait for the professional assessment. I have no evidence on which to base a view either way.