Ibrahim Halawa acquited(mod warning in op-Heed it)

Tom Mann Centuria

gypsy79 wrote: »

Or travel to a different continent to do so!

When your dad has known links to other terrorists

How did this reply come before the message it was replying to? Spooky.

...And Justice

roddy15 wrote: »

Firstly since we are in AH, you spelt her name wrong.

Katherine is hardly a "leftie", stop using terms that your definition is "anyone I disagree with". You look worse than the far left calling people "alt-right" when they don't agree on a single issue. If Katherine was a "leftie" she wouldn't have signed up to be a minister in a centre-right government.

Go way out of that, she's an independent, she goes with what's popular.

Harry Angstrom

Let's hope the next time he decides to go on "holidays", he'll take a caravan in Courtown for a fortnight instead.

Billy86

Royal Legend wrote: »

Bollox, he went there to protest that his leader had been overthrown, his leader of his country. he got caught and then played the "I'm Irish Card"
No issue with him arguing for his countries rights, but big issue that he uses Ireland to bail him out when he went there to protest, not on behalf of his so called home of Ireland but to protest in what he sees as his home Egypt

Not bollocks, fact. Likewise plenty of these Irish people abroad I know have taken interest in the politics of the countries they are currently in. And yet, they still ultimately consider Ireland home.

Did everyone living in Oz and taking interest in the Australian election last year, or someone living in Canada who took interest in the election there the year before, suddenly stop considering Ireland to be 'home'? Likewise in the reverse, did those living abroad who now consider Canada or Spain or the UK or wherever to be more 'home' than Ireland suddenly stop doing so if they came back to vote in the SSM referendum as many did?

I mean you're happy to talk for him on the matter so I'm sure you'll be able to give a blanket answer to fit all of the above examples as well.

Beechwoodspark

Ibrahim halawa, TD. Could happen ya know

Billy86

Lickin2me wrote: »

Muslims? He is not irish he is not welcome. Perfectly clear from little support he got. But il be banned again. Not allowed say anything on boards that is not PC

Born and raised in the Ireland, he's every bit as Irish as you or me; assuming you're Irish of course.

Barry Badrinath

tomwaterford wrote: »

Afaik it's a UN right to peaceful protest (it is in ireland)

What was he protesting about?

Billy86

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

How did this reply come before the message it was replying to? Spooky.

Looks like a ninja edit-and-repost for whatever reason (when you click the link by the username in the quote to bring you to the post, it brings you nowhere - just to the top of the page). Could be an accidental double post too, can happen on phones when you're not paying attention or multitasking!

Donal55

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Ibrahim halawa, TD. Could happen ya know

Bertie for President. Anything is possible.

SkepticQuark

...And Justice wrote: »

Go way out of that, she's an independent, she goes with what's popular.

That still doesn't equate to being a "leftie". What you've described now is just populist. She leans left certainly on issues but I'm getting tired of these "AH SUR LEFTIES LOVE MUSLIM TERRORIST!" bull**** comments on AH when the politicians they end up talking about do very little to be "lefties". Varadkar seems happy about it, he's not a "leftie".

In terms of politicians, the thing is more an establishment/centrist and far left party issue when it comes to not wanting people to criticise certain Islamic groups but then on the far right, you have twats who'd want to see the world burn just to get rid of the "plague of Islam!" I support neither stance and I'm on the left of the political compass.

SkepticQuark

Lickin2me wrote: »

Muslims? He is not irish he is not welcome. Perfectly clear from little support he got. But il be banned again. Not allowed say anything on boards that is not PC

He was born in Ireland so by every legal definition, he is Irish. It's not a question of "PC" it's a question of legality. You can't pretend laws don't exist.

MickDoyle1979

The Halawa family are the Irish branch of the Muslim Brotherhood.

They share the same ideology as ISIS Al Qaeda the Taliban and Hamas.

They are Islamic fundamentalists and supremacists who seek the implementation of Sharia Law in a world wide Caliphate.

They seek the end of secular democracy beheadings for apostates death to Jews and gays and the persecution and enslavement of the entire human race who resist them.

It is insane that liberals who are pro democracy pro human rights pro gay pro feminist and pro freedom would cheer at the release of Ibrahim Halawa and welcome him back to Ireland.

Are you suicidal?

Sweden Germany Italy France Spain etc are being destroyed after they let in millions of Muslims who have created ghettos which have become bases of operation for terrorists.

Rape has sky rocketed and major attacks claiming scores of lives are increasing.

After the American withdrawal from Iraq under the Obama administration followed by the arming training and financing of Islamic terrorists during the Arab Spring by Hillary Clinton and the open door policy of Merkel the Islamic insurgency in the Middle East has grown in strength and has now come to Europe.

It has been facilitated by the liberal left who have embraced the likes of Halawa blindly.

It is only a matter of time before Ireland is attacked by jihadists.

The insane excuse makers for Halawa will be the fifth column who will oppose any measures to defend Ireland when the time comes.

We are already weak. Militarily neutral with barely the ability to take on dissidents and drug gangs or send a measly battalions of peacekeepers on UN duty.

The uncritical support of the Halawas and the shouting down of warning voices as Islamophobia is a clear and present danger to the security of the state when it is now Irish government policy along with a consensus across the political parties and the media.

The absurdity of Zappone supporting Halawa would be comical if it was not so tragic. If she lived openly as a lesbian in the Middle East she would be buried up to her chest and would have rocks smashed on her head until she died.

O'Gorman the openly gay chief activist of Amnesty International would be hurled to his death from a rooftop by likes of Halawa if he and his kind ruled this country.

Radharc na Sleibhte

If all the alleged allegations are true, the good thing is this fella and his family and their comrades will be watched like hawks.

O r . . . . w i l l . . . . .t h e y . . . . .

wonderfullife

Royal Legend wrote: »

Bollox, he went there to protest that his leader had been overthrown, his leader of his country. he got caught and then played the "I'm Irish Card"

There are many people born in the UK, USA who either consider themselves Irish or Irish-American/Irish-British. My nanny was one of 14 children and nearly half of them emigrated in the 1940's, 1950's and I've got dozens of cousins all over the shop who feel precisely that way: proud to be English and Irish, proud to be American and Irish.

It's frankly hilarious that you're using his affinity towards Egypt as proof he is not Irish or worse that he's selectively Irish. James Connolly was pretty proud of his Scot-Irish heritage and gave his life for this country, Tom Clarke, Patrick Pearse all were either born over the water or had huge ties there.

My point quite clearly is it's 100% normal for the lad to have strong positive feelings towards both Ireland and Egypt and, if he wants, to consider himself both Irish and Egyptian. There's thousands of children growing up right now in this country who will have similar feelings for a second country whether it's Poland, Nigeria, Latvia whatever.

He was found innocent in a court of law and gets to come home. Good enough for me. If people have doubts about the safety of his acquittal or suspect he committed a crime, well tough sh1t that's the way the world works. Amanda Knox got herself a little heroes welcome at home in America and a pity party tour when she legged it from Italy with her own acquittal.

Richard Hillman

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Ibrahim halawa, TD. Could happen ya know

Local elections in 2019 I think. Sinn Fein and PBPAAA will be queuing up for him right now.

Better keep his mouth shut on the Abortion referendum though. And for God's sake, nobody tell him that it's legal to marry people of the same sex now a days.

Shpudnik

Billy86 wrote: »

Looks like a ninja edit-and-repost for whatever reason (when you click the link by the username in the quote to bring you to the post, it brings you nowhere - just to the top of the page). Could be an accidental double post too, can happen on phones when you're not paying attention or multitasking!

Wasn't a double post. Don't know what happened cause my post was there before his.

Tom Mann Centuria

Shpudnik wrote: »

Wasn't a double post. Don't know what happened cause my post was there before his.

Back to spooky again then!

...And Justice

MickDoyle1979 wrote: »

The Halawa family are the Irish branch of the Muslim Brotherhood.

They share the same ideology as ISIS Al Qaeda the Taliban and Hamas.

They are Islamic fundamentalists and supremacists who seek the implementation of Sharia Law in a world wide Caliphate.

They seek the end of secular democracy beheadings for apostates death to Jews and gays and the persecution and enslavement of the entire human race who resist them.

It is insane that liberals who are pro democracy pro human rights pro gay pro feminist and pro freedom would cheer at the release of Ibrahim Halawa and welcome him back to Ireland.

Are you suicidal?

Sweden Germany Italy France Spain etc are being destroyed after they let in millions of Muslims who have created ghettos which have become bases of operation for terrorists.

Rape has sky rocketed and major attacks claiming scores of lives are increasing.

After the American withdrawal from Iraq under the Obama administration followed by the arming training and financing of Islamic terrorists during the Arab Spring by Hillary Clinton and the open door policy of Merkel the Islamic insurgency in the Middle East has grown in strength and has now come to Europe.

It has been facilitated by the liberal left who have embraced the likes of Halawa blindly.

It is only a matter of time before Ireland is attacked by jihadists.

The insane excuse makers for Halawa will be the fifth column who will oppose any measures to defend Ireland when the time comes.

We are already weak. Militarily neutral with barely the ability to take on dissidents and drug gangs or send a measly battalions of peacekeepers on UN duty.

The uncritical support of the Halawas and the shouting down of warning voices as Islamophobia is a clear and present danger to the security of the state when it is now Irish government policy along with a consensus across the political parties and the media.

Why are people so fcuking thick over here?

Barry Badrinath

roddy15 wrote: »

You can't pretend laws don't exist.

Like the anti protest law in Egypt?

MickDoyle1979

wonderfullife wrote: »

There are many people born in the UK, USA who either consider themselves Irish or Irish-American/Irish-British. My nanny was one of 14 children and nearly half of them emigrated in the 1940's, 1950's and I've got dozens of cousins all over the shop who feel precisely that way: proud to be English and Irish, proud to be American and Irish.

It's frankly hilarious that you're using his affinity towards Egypt as proof he is not Irish or worse that he's selectively Irish. James Connolly was pretty proud of his Scot-Irish heritage and gave his life for this country, Tom Clarke, Patrick Pearse all were either born over the water or had huge ties there.

My point quite clearly is it's 100% normal for the lad to have strong positive feelings towards both Ireland and Egypt and, if he wants, to consider himself both Irish and Egyptian. There's thousands of children growing up right now in this country who will have similar feelings for a second country whether it's Poland, Nigeria, Latvia whatever.

He was found innocent in a court of law and gets to come home. Good enough for me. If people have doubts about the safety of his acquittal or suspect he committed a crime, well tough sh1t that's the way the world works. Amanda Knox got herself a little heroes welcome at home in America and a pity party tour when she legged it from Italy with her own acquittal.

Comparing Amanda Knox to an Islamic terrorist scumbag like Ibrahim Halawa is insane.

tomwaterford

MickDoyle1979 wrote: »

Comparing Amanda Knox to an Islamic terrorist scumbag like Ibrahim Halawa is insane.

One of them was charged for murder....other for being at a protest?


Which is the terrorist

Barry Badrinath

tomwaterford wrote: »

One of them was charged for murder....other for being at a protest?


Which is the terrorist

What was the protest about?

...And Justice

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

What was the protest about?

The Muslim brotherhood and sharia law, Arab spring, terrorism, Isis, the takeover of western society and the killing of non believers.

Richard Hillman

We have a lad in his early 20s, who has been locked in a cell with Egypt's most extreme Islamists for 4 years, who has suddenly become a celebrity and the darling of the Irish media.

Give him a Twitter account and I swear he won't last 1 week without saying something mental.

Beechwoodspark

Must say I was amazed by the amount of coverage this story got on RTÉ news at 9.

What's with the sisters doing that kind of hooting/screeching out on the road?

...And Justice

Richard Hillman wrote: »

We have a lad in his early 20s, who has been locked in a cell with Egypt's most extreme Islamists for 4 years, who has suddenly become a celebrity and the darling of the Irish media.

Give him a Twitter account and I swear he won't last 1 week without saying something mental.

The media, especially the journal and Sinn Fein are to blame. Rte only jumped on the band wagon because everyone else did.

wonderfullife

MickDoyle1979 wrote: »

Comparing Amanda Knox to an Islamic terrorist scumbag like Ibrahim Halawa is insane.

I wasn't comparing them for their alleged crimes. I was simply noting there are dozens of high profile cases worldwide where people *suspect* a person got away with a crime. Amanda Knox and OJ Simpson being a couple of examples. If they get acquitted in a court of law, that's the way it is and they get to go home.

Simple stuff. He gets to go home whether you *think* he did something wrong or not.

Muahahaha

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Would I be allowed in as a Western Woman without covering up? If so, I'll give it a go sometime soon.

You dont even have to be western, there was lots of women in there having a chat and coffee from all backgrounds. All Im saying is instead of being scared of the place is go along and see it for your own eyes, it is open to all members of the public irrespective of faith. And they make a mean falafel sandwich.

wonderfullife

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Give him a Twitter account and I swear he won't last 1 week without saying something mental.

About 6 days and 23 hours longer than most people with a boards account.

MickDoyle1979

...And Justice wrote: »

Why are people so fcuking thick over here?

It has its roots in the legacy of the Troubles and the Cold War.

The Irish left are the descendents of Irish socialist Republicans.

In the past our enemy was the British ergo any enemy of the British Empire was our friend which is why the Irish rebels took arms from the Kaiser or why some later fought for or against Franco and for or against the Republican side in the Spanish Civil War or supported Hitler or Stalin or Mao.

The Irish cause embraced the ANC and Mandela which was compared with the H Block prisoners or the Birmingham Six.

Since the end of the Troubles and the Cold War and the beginning of the war with Islamic Fundamentalism that began on 9/11 the Irish left has transferred its hatred of Britain to America and Israel.

Therefore they will excuse any excess by the Taliban Al Qaeda ISIS and Hamas and becoming their cheerleaders.

Dictators like Saddam Castro Chavez Maduro Mugabe and Kim Jong Un are embraced for being anti American.

In the same way Halawa has become like one of the Manchester Martyrs or exiled Fenians.

Ireland remained neutral in WW2 to spite Britain. Rabid Republicans like Dan Breen cried when Hitler was defeated.

In a similar way the Irish left have embraced anti Americanism and their insane adoration of Halawa is their way to pathetically get one back at their new master.