Is it legal to order a Karambit knife online?

JacobL

*Sorry that this is the wrong forum, I didn't know where to post this*

I want to buy a Karambit knife online, although I don't intend on using it, it's just a decoration/ornament. It will be sharp. It will have deadly capabilities, although I will just have it hanging on my wall as a decoration -- it's a replica of a CS:GO Karambit.

the_syco

AFAIK, it's illegal to carry a knife around with you, unless you have a valid reason for carrying said knife. So I'm guessing it should be legal if you have it n your house. I'd advise you to consider putting it into a glass case/cabinet if showing it, so fools visitors don't hurt themselves with it.

The law; http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1990/act/12/section/9/enacted/en/html#zza12y1990s9

Someones take on above law; http://www.bushcraft.ie/index.php/articles/58-knives-and-the-law

JacobL

the_syco wrote: »

AFAIK, it's illegal to carry a knife around with you, unless you have a valid reason for carrying said knife. So I'm guessing it should be legal if you have it n your house. I'd advise you to consider putting it into a glass case/cabinet if showing it, so fools visitors don't hurt themselves with it.

The law;

Someones take on above law;

Thanks for the reply, all's well and good but would I be able to order one online? Owning one is one thing -- that much I knew was okay, but would I be able to purchase one on say, amazon.com, and make it through customs?

deco nate

My post was deleted. isn't it illegal to import a deadly weapon, and to prove reason why? Just like any Airsoft over 1 joule is illegal, how can you prove to Customs/police it is Justified unless you are a hunter and have a licence/reason for use ?
Just wondering.

the_syco

JacobL wrote: »

Thanks for the reply, all's well and good but would I be able to order one online? Owning one is one thing -- that much I knew was okay, but would I be able to purchase one on say, amazon.com, and make it through customs?

From looking at;

the_syco wrote: »

The law; http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1990/act/12/section/9/enacted/en/html#zza12y1990s9

I'm not a lawyer, but I assume it'd be okay, as knives aren't mentioned on the AnPost prohibited items list.

the_syco

Also, if only for show, maybe ask if you can get the knife blunt?

Suckit

http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/FAQ

15. What are the laws on importing knives?
The only type of weapons prohibited for importation are those listed under the 1991 Order on offensive weapons and the 2009 amendment to it.

This order includes flick knives and several types of disguised knives among other weapons. Other type of knives can be imported, however an individual could be charged for possession of same in public without a lawful reason as set out in Section 9 of the Firearms and Offensive Weapons Act 1990.

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/ihl/ihl-nat.nsf/0/32fb64bd1b026233c12576d2005cc7d0/$FILE/51562024.pdf/Ireland%20-%20OFFENSIVE%20WEAPONS%20order%201991.pdf

2. It is hereby directed that section 12 of the Firearms and Offensive Weapons Act, 1990 (No. 12 of 1990), shall apply to the following descriptions of weapons:

(e) any weapon from which one or more sharp spikes protrude which is worn attached to the foot, ankle, hand or wrist sometimes known when intended to be attached to the foot, as a footclaw and, when intended to be attached to the hand, as a handclaw);

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1990/act/12/enacted/en/print#sec12

12.—(1) Any person who—

(a) manufactures, sells or hires, or offers or exposes for sale or hire, or by way of business repairs or modifies, or
(b) has in his possession for the purpose of sale or hire or for the purpose of repair or modification by way of business,
or
(c) puts on display, or lends or gives to any other person, a weapon to which this section applies shall be guilty of an offence.

I do not know, but by reading the above it seems to me that it might get stopped and if it was, you would not get you money back either. It does not matter if you planned to use it as a decoration/ornament. I am guessing that although it would be in a private house, it may fall under "display".

But as i said, i do not know.

JacobL

Suckit wrote: »

I do not know, but by reading the above it seems to me that it might get stopped and if it was, you would not get you money back either. It does not matter if you planned to use it as a decoration/ornament. I am guessing that although it would be in a private house, it may fall under "display".

But as i said, i do not know.

My understanding of the above is that you may not own -- or use in public for that matter -- a blade (made to be attached to a body-part) that could severely injure someone, a flickblade, or any blade that is disguised can possibly be prosecuted.

Does this mean I can own a FIXED BLADE (A blade that can not be moved from the handle) so long as I don't use it in public?

JacobL

the_syco wrote: »

Also, if only for show, maybe ask if you can get the knife blunt?

Thanks for the reply, I've decided to search for a blade that is said to be more blunt as to your recommendation. I've found one already, and now I'm looking into whether or not it would make it through customs. Thank you

Victor

JacobL wrote: »

Does this mean I can own a FIXED BLADE (A blade that can not be moved from the handle) so long as I don't use it in public?

It's not just about use, it's about possession.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1990/act/12/section/9/enacted/en/html#zza12y1990s9

(4) Where a person, without lawful authority or reasonable excuse (the onus of proving which shall lie on him), has with him in any public place—

(a) any flick-knife, or
(b) any other article whatsoever made or adapted for use for causing injury to or incapacitating a person,

he shall be guilty of an offence.

Katanas, machetes ans some other weapons have restrictions. http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1991/si/66/made/en/print
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2009/si/338/made/en/print

Sparks

Not really the right forum for this question. Given what the karambit is mainly used for (silat), moving to Martial Arts.