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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    the suspected attempted burglaries last year ; the bicycle stolen a month ago

    You did warn about Kilcock becoming very dangerous almost 2 years ago
    Kilcock has become very dangerous recently and this can only be worsened when the sink estate opens.

    I hope the developers are fitting suspected-attempted-burglar-alarms.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Yeah but he's right; the bizarre tendering and sale of the parish centre followed by the reduction in size of the proposed centre in the Bawnogues; the pathetic train connections ; the morons trying to make us the last stop on the Dublin bus routes ; the terrible schools ; the reports of drug dealing at the funfair ; the suspected attempted burglaries last year ; the bicycle stolen a month ago ; the absence of any swimming pool are all much worse problems than potential flooding in Millerstown.

    All correct. Kilcock is a bit of a kip all in all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭djbulldogg1983


    Sam Hain wrote: »
    Yawn, so defensive all the time. Saying childlike stuff like "Nicest estate in the town". Maybe it gives you some self-justification for purchasing a house on a swamp. And to then complain about the town, did your extensive research not incorporate all these REAL issues. Laughable.

    Defensive? No my friend, I am merely responding to all the locals who constantly post on boards every time the river breaks it’s banks ;-)
    Have a look back, it’s not the residents who post, unless some local comes on going on and on about it.
    My kids go to school in Celbridge and we take the back roads to get there in the morning so Millerstown worked with us perfectly, thanks for worrying :-)

    Also we socialise in maynooth so the fact that KK town is a run down 80’s nightmare it doesn’t really affect us :-)

    But my swamp house is lovely ;-) cheers


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Family have bought there and being in construction I investigated for them.


    Seems as though it was the second largest water volume measured in the Rye it was not bog standard, it was significant and the waters were contained in the green area.
    You're getting your stories mixed up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭djbulldogg1983


    You're getting your stories mixed up.

    Ohhhh oooops ;-)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭djbulldogg1983


    You're getting your stories mixed up.

    FYI my family have bought there, as in me and my wife and kids, and I am in construction 🔨


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 SamJay


    Hi,

    From the drone footage, there seems to be flooding north side of the development. Is there a small stream or something like that north side? A sat view on google maps shows no river so just wondering why it appeared to flood at the front and back of the development.

    Im really interested in the development as its right in my price range, im not in construction or anything like that but i would be concerned about the following. Perhaps, recent buyers of new homes in millerstown may have had similar thoughts and obtained answers/peace of mind somehow and could share there advice, any help would be much appreciated.


    -Integrity of the land and soil to build on and ensure reliable foundations after years of flooding, did the floodwater ever reach as far as the house's (long before the development started)? If the grounds are marshy is there a risk to houses sinking. Again, im not in construction and all these concerns are probably though of and sorted by engineers/developers but it just something i think about

    -Ledwill park is quite a big development with a few more phases still to come, it will stretch as far as the canal i think. Drainage from rainwater etc will probably will be directed to the river. This could raise the river levels further during heavy rain?? Would this be feasible...?

    -A house is a big investment, risks with all houses for various different reasons. I would be happy that the houses are protected with the intentional flood relief i.e. park at the front. But obviously we are in a climate crisis, sea water levels are rising, river levels will rise and extreme weather events will be become more frequent. How will my investment be in 30 years time, its possible flood waters could reach the houses unless extra measures are taken...?

    -Any locals who have witnessed flooding in the area, before the construction began did the the floodwater ever reach as far as where the houses are now...?

    -Anyone got a comprehensive list of work done for the floodwater relief?

    -Was there any special type of home insurance required?


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭djbulldogg1983


    SamJay wrote: »
    Hi,

    From the drone footage, there seems to be flooding north side of the development. Is there a small stream or something like that north side? A sat view on google maps shows no river so just wondering why it appeared to flood at the front and back of the development.

    Im really interested in the development as its right in my price range, im not in construction or anything like that but i would be concerned about the following. Perhaps, recent buyers of new homes in millerstown may have had similar thoughts and obtained answers/peace of mind somehow and could share there advice, any help would be much appreciated.


    -Integrity of the land and soil to build on and ensure reliable foundations after years of flooding, did the floodwater ever reach as far as the house's (long before the development started)? If the grounds are marshy is there a risk to houses sinking. Again, im not in construction and all these concerns are probably though of and sorted by engineers/developers but it just something i think about

    -Ledwill park is quite a big development with a few more phases still to come, it will stretch as far as the canal i think. Drainage from rainwater etc will probably will be directed to the river. This could raise the river levels further during heavy rain?? Would this be feasible...?

    -A house is a big investment, risks with all houses for various different reasons. I would be happy that the houses are protected with the intentional flood relief i.e. park at the front. But obviously we are in a climate crisis, sea water levels are rising, river levels will rise and extreme weather events will be become more frequent. How will my investment be in 30 years time, its possible flood waters could reach the houses unless extra measures are taken...?

    -Any locals who have witnessed flooding in the area, before the construction began did the the floodwater ever reach as far as where the houses are now...?

    -Anyone got a comprehensive list of work done for the floodwater relief?

    -Was there any special type of home insurance required?

    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057804909/27
    Plenty of info both for and against here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,649 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057971916/4

    More modern thread here too

    Seems at least one person convinced they're pure safe


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭djbulldogg1983


    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057971916/4

    More modern thread here too

    Seems at least one person convinced they're pure safe

    The link I sent has actual technical info from the planning application etc. Just read through it. Also has locals who have lived here all their lives saying it’s built on a flood plain. Make your own mind up after that!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,649 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Look you've got your opinion and that's fine.

    But every thread on millerstown is filled with one poster making a case for the developer.

    I'd not buy there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭djbulldogg1983


    Look you've got your opinion and that's fine.

    But every thread on millerstown is filled with one poster making a case for the developer.

    I'd not buy there.

    I bought here. After much research and discussion. All I try to do is present the facts.
    I live beside a river so I’m at risk of my house flooding no matter how likely or how much of a residual risk, I made the decision to buy.
    So when anyone asks if they should buy in Millerstown I present them with both sides of the argument and tell them to make their own minds up.
    I don’t care who buys here!
    I’m delighted with my home and f*#* the naysayers and begrudgers and the smart arse locals who think they know something I don’t!
    Coz they don’t.
    Plenty of facts have been laid out for all to read for themselves.
    A lot of misinformation being spread, like in the link you sent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 bbbbb1990


    SamJay wrote: »
    Hi,

    From the drone footage, there seems to be flooding north side of the development. Is there a small stream or something like that north side? A sat view on google maps shows no river so just wondering why it appeared to flood at the front and back of the development.

    Im really interested in the development as its right in my price range, im not in construction or anything like that but i would be concerned about the following. Perhaps, recent buyers of new homes in millerstown may have had similar thoughts and obtained answers/peace of mind somehow and could share there advice, any help would be much appreciated.


    -Integrity of the land and soil to build on and ensure reliable foundations after years of flooding, did the floodwater ever reach as far as the house's (long before the development started)? If the grounds are marshy is there a risk to houses sinking. Again, im not in construction and all these concerns are probably though of and sorted by engineers/developers but it just something i think about

    -Ledwill park is quite a big development with a few more phases still to come, it will stretch as far as the canal i think. Drainage from rainwater etc will probably will be directed to the river. This could raise the river levels further during heavy rain?? Would this be feasible...?

    -A house is a big investment, risks with all houses for various different reasons. I would be happy that the houses are protected with the intentional flood relief i.e. park at the front. But obviously we are in a climate crisis, sea water levels are rising, river levels will rise and extreme weather events will be become more frequent. How will my investment be in 30 years time, its possible flood waters could reach the houses unless extra measures are taken...?

    -Any locals who have witnessed flooding in the area, before the construction began did the the floodwater ever reach as far as where the houses are now...?

    -Anyone got a comprehensive list of work done for the floodwater relief?

    -Was there any special type of home insurance required?

    To be honest boards is the last place ya want to come for advice on one of the biggest investments of your life. It's a cesspit of know it alls, whatabout'ers and one-upmanship. 😄

    Back to the topic at hand I've bought in Millerstown and we are very happy with it it's a nice friendly community of predominatly young families.
    We are satisfied with the flood works and as horrendous as it can look when it tips over the bank it's only about ankle deep on the grass and it's gone within a few hours or the next day.
    It would take a cataclysmic event before water even reaches the floor level of the houses out the front and their all sold anyway apart from the show homes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    It is built on land that has always flooded. That cant be argued with. The flood defence works seemed to have protected the houses so far to be fair. It doesnt look great when there is rain but i dont think the houses are at risk.

    My advice is to go out this weekend after the forecasted storm and look for yourself. It looks awful and the water takes days to drain.


    Re Kilcock and the locals, lets just say small town mentality prevails. Its a bit of a dump all in all imo. Id argue there are better houses albeit second hand in Maynooth for less money than Millerstown.

    Best of luck to whoever bought there. Hope it all goes well for the future. A bit twisted that some of the locals would like to see it flood to say i told you so. Thats kilcock though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 SamJay


    Thanks all!

    Cheers bulldog, glad your happy! I think the houses will be fine. Its more personal fear creeping in on my decision, i wouldn't know how robust flood relief will be with climate change and more severe weather outbreaks.

    The development is lovely all the same, very reasonable and only up the road from maynooth. The 3 beds are a good size. Some more being released in the next few weeks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    I bought here. After much research and discussion. All I try to do is present the facts.
    I live beside a river so I’m at risk of my house flooding no matter how likely or how much of a residual risk, I made the decision to buy.
    So when anyone asks if they should buy in Millerstown I present them with both sides of the argument and tell them to make their own minds up.
    I don’t care who buys here!
    I’m delighted with my home and f*#* the naysayers and begrudgers and the smart arse locals who think they know something I don’t!
    Coz they don’t.
    Plenty of facts have been laid out for all to read for themselves.
    A lot of misinformation being spread, like in the link you sent.

    You spread a lot of misinformation yourself.
    First your sister was buying then you etc.

    I say this with no malice but you've misrepresented yourself and I think you probably work for Sean Reilly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,649 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    The post history of the millerstown posters is interesting.

    3 of the last 4 have posted on nothing else.....ever


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 bbbbb1990


    The post history of the millerstown posters is interesting.

    3 of the last 4 have posted on nothing else.....ever

    Yes... you've unravelled a massive conspiracy here... I had to create an account to respond to this thread I don't use boards as it's awful and prefer reddit. I own a house here and I might want to sell in the future so if someone comes across this thread at least they will be presented facts in the future instead of the string of nonsense being spewed by some posters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭Sam Hain


    You spread a lot of misinformation yourself.
    First your sister was buying then you etc.

    I say this with no malice but you've misrepresented yourself and I think you probably work for Sean Reilly.

    Hes full of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭djbulldogg1983


    Sam Hain wrote: »
    Hes full of it.

    Ohhh please don’t hurt my feelings 😂
    I didn’t want to admit I was buying at the time because I knew I’d have all the locals calling me an idiot etc.
    Instead I just wanted to get the facts out there.
    We’ve had storm Ciara last week and we’ll have storm Brendan this week. And I guarantee that the water still won’t get near my house.
    So I’m happy.
    I don’t work for anyone involved in the development. I do however work in construction.
    You’re saying I misreprented myself, when Marieholmfan was the person saying Kilcock was like the new Bronx with regular murders and robberies 😂
    Go look on all of the threads, all I did was try to explain (using planning documents and sketches, ACTUAL EVIDENCE) how the flood works were addressed before construction commenced.

    I also set up an account for the specific purposes of proving locals wrong or calling them out on their conspiracy theories!

    Yes it’s built near a river, yes the river floods and yes it fills up the front green. All of which I knew before I bought.

    Love my house, love the estate, great neighbours and we all love seeing the locals out with their cameras everytime it rains 😂


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Ohhh please don’t hurt my feelings 😂
    I didn’t want to admit I was buying at the time because I knew I’d have all the locals calling me an idiot etc.
    Instead I just wanted to get the facts out there.
    We’ve had storm Ciara last week and we’ll have storm Brendan this week. And I guarantee that the water still won’t get near my house.
    So I’m happy.
    I don’t work for anyone involved in the development. I do however work in construction.
    You’re saying I misreprented myself, when Marieholmfan was the person saying Kilcock was like the new Bronx with regular murders and robberies 😂
    Go look on all of the threads, all I did was try to explain (using planning documents and sketches, ACTUAL EVIDENCE) how the flood works were addressed before construction commenced.

    I also set up an account for the specific purposes of proving locals wrong or calling them out on their conspiracy theories!

    Yes it’s built near a river, yes the river floods and yes it fills up the front green. All of which I knew before I bought.

    Love my house, love the estate, great neighbours and we all love seeing the locals out with their cameras everytime it rains 😂


    You are a local now too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭djbulldogg1983


    You are a local now too.

    True, but I don’t hope that my neighbours houses flood. I’m not that type of local 🙄


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭djbulldogg1983


    It is built on land that has always flooded. That cant be argued with. The flood defence works seemed to have protected the houses so far to be fair. It doesnt look great when there is rain but i dont think the houses are at risk.

    My advice is to go out this weekend after the forecasted storm and look for yourself. It looks awful and the water takes days to drain.


    Re Kilcock and the locals, lets just say small town mentality prevails. Its a bit of a dump all in all imo. Id argue there are better houses albeit second hand in Maynooth for less money than Millerstown.

    Best of luck to whoever bought there. Hope it all goes well for the future. A bit twisted that some of the locals would like to see it flood to say i told you so. Thats kilcock though.

    After storm Ciara it had subsided 24hrs later. Didn’t take days to drain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    After storm Ciara it had subsided 24hrs later. Didn’t take days to drain.

    But it has after other heavy rainfalls.


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭djbulldogg1983


    But it has after other heavy rainfalls.
    Mehhhh. Kind of true.
    Usually gone in 24hrs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Mehhhh. Kind of true.
    Usually gone in 24hrs

    Not a big deal as it obviously has no impact on the houses or residents


  • Registered Users Posts: 231 ✭✭social butterfly 2020


    Listen to your fears. You will end up buying and continue to have those fears. Its all about peace of mind in my opinion. I had a deposit on Millerstown but ended up going for Ledwill Park (no maintenance fees either).
    SamJay wrote: »
    Thanks all!

    Cheers bulldog, glad your happy! I think the houses will be fine. Its more personal fear creeping in on my decision, i wouldn't know how robust flood relief will be with climate change and more severe weather outbreaks.

    The development is lovely all the same, very reasonable and only up the road from maynooth. The 3 beds are a good size. Some more being released in the next few weeks.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Aren't building floor levels in Millerstown 500mm above the 100-year flood level plus an allowance for climate change?

    How does that compare to the rest of Kilcock?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,155 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    those football goals can soon be used for water polo at the rate the place is filling up.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    shanec1928 wrote: »
    those football goals can soon be used for water polo at the rate the place is filling up.

    No danger to the houses though?


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