If you decided where your tax went?

steddyeddy

Where would it go? I see a lot of threads on here where people seem to imply they're paying high tax for social welfare pensions or sick people. I'm just wondering if you could fill out a form at the end of the year, stipulating where your tax went, where would you like to put the most money? How do you think society would change if we all choose were to put our tax?

Harry Palmr

I'd demand it was all spent in my post code area

amcalester

I'm happy enough in where money is being spend, I'd rather we just cut out the wastage.

fizzypish

You mean that motor tax can actually be spent on the road network instead of paying off the bailout or Irish water? O the possibilities....

VinLieger

The main thing for me is about wastage, i think what we pay is fair but we don't get nearly enough for it when you compare the amount nordic countries pay and the 1st class services they get

El Tarangu

Interesting thread...

Can you write off your charitable contributions against your tax in Ireland, like you can in other countries? If so, you kind of can decide where your taxes go, to an extent.

For me, provision of cycling infrastructure. Apart from that, I don't know. Less to the long-term unemployed, anyway.

Caliden

Without the ability to sack people for gross incompetence in the health sector we're just going to have to wait 10-15 years for the fossils to retire from mid & upper management before anything can change.

osarusan

Ringfenced for LOI Club facilities development, specific to the Limerick area.

uch

Health and OAP's, most OAP's have paid tax all their lives and should not have to pay for any essentials IMHO,

Probably should say senior Citisens

I'd love it if they adopted a Humble Bundle-style slider to decide where your tax goes. Give us options and you get to choose the percentage that your money goes towards.

__..__

Can I just keep mine then

DinkyDinosaur

I'd imagine the glamorous things would get all the money and boring things would get very little. Oh wait, it's like that already.

Your Face

Id like it all to go into to my bank account.

SEPT 23 1989

I would plough it into the single mothers

SEPT 23 1989

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I would plough it into the single mothers

Geuze

uch wrote: »

Health and OAP's, most OAP's have paid tax all their lives and should not have to pay for any essentials IMHO,

Probably should say senior Citisens

Approx 100,000 recipients of non-contributory State Pensions have, by definition, not paid enough PRSI.

Permabear

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steddyeddy

VinLieger wrote: »

The main thing for me is about wastage, i think what we pay is fair but we don't get nearly enough for it when you compare the amount nordic countries pay and the 1st class services they get

I agree there.

steddyeddy

osarusan wrote: »

Ringfence d for LOI Club facilities development, specific to the Limerick area.

That's where I'd like my tax dollars to go

OldMrBrennan83

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andekwarhola

I'm happy to pay (even higher if necessary) taxes to fund decent public services and provide a safety net for the less fortunate but I'd love to see far more efficency about how the already large amounts paid directly and indirectly, especially by middle earners, are currently squandered in certain sectors of the country.

Water John

We do decide, but on a collective basis, it's called democracy.

You mean like J P. He does a lot of good things with his funds.
I suggest the Limerick guy here put in an application.

Only problem with personal choice, is all the unsexy but necessary things won't get funding.

For Forks Sake

Monorail.

Definitely a Monorail.

ToddyDoody

I'd pay down the national debt.

Rumpy Pumpy

Infrastructure, primary and secondary education, pay off some of the national debt.

Education, housing, social supports for the less privileged, cut out waste in the health and civil service generally, improve infrastructure and make all public servants more accountable. The only reason any western country doesn't have first class public services is mismanagement and waste.

Health, policing and public transport.

ToddyDoody

Throw it off the roof of a tall building.

Wanderer78

ToddyDoody wrote: »

I'd pay down the national debt.

Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »

Infrastructure, primary and secondary education, pay off some of the national debt.

always useful to pay off 'odious' debts, debts in which do not benefit the majority in society;)

Fanny Wank

uch wrote: »

Health and OAP's, most OAP's have paid tax all their lives and should not have to pay for any essentials IMHO,

Probably should say senior Citisens

Strange that people believe a tax system should involve getting more out the more you pay. F*ck it, might bring my P60 and my wife's down to the DSP and ask for a few medical cards

But (half) joking aside based on data from the CSO the rate of deprivation is lowest among pensioners.

I also hope you're not naive enough to believe that the same level of benefits (in real terms) will be available to you when you retire (which wont be at 65 unless you provide for yourself)

Spider Web

Diverted away from bloated politician remuneration packages and junkets.
A pay scale too. Some deserve a high salary, obviously others certainly do not.

Directed towards health services, housing and mandatory training/post school education.

Public transport
Social housing
Public childcare
Education
Health

Better again if it could all be local but being from a rural county I see the sting in that too

As a public sector worker I resent the waste, greed and short term outlook in the private sector that costs society so much and that we are always left to clean up after. But you don't hear me go on about it 😎

myshirt

I'd put it into infrastructure, housing, and office development in the Midwest, and away from counties where you get piss poor return for investment, Donegal and Leitrim being the worst.

I'd completely cut them off and progressively force their hand to move more towards Galway.

Wanderer78

socialism for the minority, capitalism for the majority:D

Water John

Snoop, you and all public servants, also have a pension which you did not fully pay for. People in glass houses....

cooperguy

In case you want to know where your taxes actually go, you can go to this website: http://www.publicpolicy.ie/where-does-your-tax-go/

You put in your wages and it breaks down exactly where every cent of your taxes go.

Guy:Incognito

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I'd demand it was all spent in my post code area

I'd narrow it down to my eircode:)

Aph2016

I would choose to pay my taxes towards better infrastructure and public transport, as well as improving the health and education sectors. I would stop paying towards the long term unemployed and to those on social welfare who have never paid a cent into the system.

Sam Kade

steddyeddy wrote: »

Where would it go? I see a lot of threads on here where people seem to imply they're paying high tax for social welfare pensions or sick people. I'm just wondering if you could fill out a form at the end of the year, stipulating where your tax went, where would you like to put the most money? How do you think society would change if we all choose were to put our tax?

Back in my pocket.

Wanderer78

Aph2016 wrote: »

I would stop paying towards the long term unemployed and to those on social welfare who have never paid a cent into the system.

what will we do with the long term unemployed then?

is there actually anybody who hasnt paid any form of taxation?

Guy:Incognito

Geuze wrote: »

Approx 100,000 recipients of non-contributory State Pensions have, by definition, not paid enough PRSI.

And even at that, with people living longer, they'll burn through the tax they paid by receiving their pensions, while the country still needs paying for.

fizzypish

Got a brain storm. Spend it all on hookers and weed. Although both weed and coitus make me sleepy so maybe I should just splash out on a fancy hotel room and take some strong sleeping tablets. Save a lot of hassle in the long run probably.

somefeen

I'd rather just have a government that could be trusted to objectively analyse where money was needed and allocate it without worrying who would get pissed off and stop voting for them.

Geuze

Spider Web wrote: »

Diverted away from bloated politician remuneration packages and junkets.
A pay scale too. Some deserve a high salary, obviously others certainly do not.

TDs don't have a payscale, they get 87k.

Geuze

Water John wrote: »

Snoop, you and all public servants, also have a pension which you did not fully pay for. People in glass houses....

PS have always made pension conts, 6.5% of wages.

Since the recent crisis, they also pay 10%/10.5% PRD.

So now they pay 16.5%-17% pension conts.

Geuze

Aph2016 wrote: »

I would choose to pay my taxes towards better infrastructure and public transport, as well as improving the health and education sectors. I would stop paying towards the long term unemployed and to those on social welfare who have never paid a cent into the system.

I broadly agree, but note that we currently over-spend on health, given the age profile of our population.

Geuze

Candie wrote: »

Education, housing, social supports for the less privileged

50% of the population are on welfare already.

This suggests that figure should rise?

Colonel Claptrap

Candie wrote: »

Education, housing, social supports for the less privileged, cut out waste in the health and civil service generally, improve infrastructure and make all public servants more accountable.

But what have the Romans ever done for us?

Permabear

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Geuze

Geuze wrote: »

PS have always made pension conts, 6.5% of wages.

Since the recent crisis, they also pay 10%/10.5% PRD.

So now they pay 16.5%-17% pension conts.

Far be it from me to point out that post 95 members pay PRSI for the contributory old age pension like everyone else, so the figure is actually higher than this.

But yknow whatever there's a fella called watery john on the internet that didn't know that. Spoiler my day surely.