Kerry GAA discussion thread #2

Same As

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Ya,agree 100%,the way this team is set up now and playing Geaney has to stay full forward,he seems to be improving his game every year and is now a leader of the team

+1, Geaney has really stepped up to the mark in that respect, we really did lack a real on field leader. Would be no harm to pick up another one or two vocal leaders.

acequion

One of the comments read out on "Terrace Talk" tonight was that the older players really should be packing it in now,that it's time for them to be buying their tickets and watching,like the rest of us. Harsh, but I'd agree 100%. In fact you'd wonder why some of these older ones haven't packed it in. Gooch got it right when he said in his book that he'd rather be asked why he retired rather than why he isn't retiring. I'll be so frustrated if I see promising younger lads losing out to the older ones. It just won't advance the cause!

JohnBoy26

acequion wrote: »

One of the comments read out on "Terrace Talk" tonight was that the older players really should be packing it in now,that it's time for them to be buying their tickets and watching,like the rest of us. Harsh, but I'd agree 100%. In fact you'd wonder why some of these older ones haven't packed it in. Gooch got it right when he said in his book that he'd rather be asked why he retired rather than why he isn't retiring. I'll be so frustrated if I see promising younger lads losing out to the older ones. It just won't advance the cause!

I wouldn't go for a full cull but a nice balance of younger players and some older players. It was very disappointing to see fitzmaurice revert to the same old come championship last year despite many of the younger players doing very well in the league. I think it set kerry back a bit tbh.

ForeverYoung90

Any previews online for the ITT vs. DIT game tonight? Is Clifford fit to play?

munster87

ForeverYoung90 wrote: »

Any previews online for the ITT vs. DIT game tonight? Is Clifford fit to play?

Not starting

Kerrydude1981

Gavin Crowley off early tonight as well





https://twitter.com/MortimerMurphy1/status/960957953628147712

DDC1990

https://imgur.com/UqDaKFA

Shanahan's tackle on Regan was definitely more unlucky than dirty. Regan ended up hitting his shoulder while checking inside. Shanahan's hand was low the whole time.

Hope Regan recovers soon. Desperately unlucky, especially vs Kerry.

Same As

Sean O Shea didn't feature for UCC today as they limped out against NUIG. Wasn't even togged so possible he's carrying a knock of some sort into the weekend. Adrian Spillane made his return from injury, while brother Killian missed a spotter in the dying embers to put a point between the teams.

BoB was most impressive for UCC, probably their best on a bad day. Jason looked to be minding himself a bit, few forward frolics this afternoon. Andrew Barry also lined out for UCC, not sure he's going to cut the mustard at senior for us.

keane2097

Far be it from me to defend a Stacks fella but Ronan Shanahan of all people being called a thug is a bit depressing.

We're all inclined to be passionate like, but I dunno...

ciarriaithuaidh

Just saw Kerry team for the weekend. Is Fitzmaurice trying to injure as many young players as possible? Jack Barry and Barry O'Sullivan being made to play 2 away games with Kerry in between tough Sigerson 1/4 final and semi-final with UCD is dumb at best, abusive at worst. Already Clifford, Seán O'Shea and Gavin Crowley are injured.
4 games in 11 days any time of year is ludicrous, but this time of year it is even more ludicrous, especially when it's for league games.

For the record, the squad is:
1.Shane Murphy (C) Dr. Crokes
2.Shane Enright Tarbert
3.Jason Foley Ballydonoghue
4.Ronan Shanahan Austin Stacks
5.Paul Murphy Rathmore
6.Andrew Barry Na Gaeil
7.Brian Ó Beaglaíoch An Ghaeltacht
8.Jack Barry Na Gaeil
9.Barry O’Sullivan Dingle
10.Micheál Burns Dr. Crokes
11.Dáithí Casey Dr Crokes
12.Stephen O’Brien Kenmare
13.Jack Savage Kerins O’Rahillys
14.Paul Geaney Dingle
15.Barry John Keane Kerins O’Rahillys

Fir Ionaid
16.Brian Kelly Legion
17.Brendan O’Sullivan Valentia
18.Matthew Flaherty Dingle
19.Éanna Ó Conchúir An Ghaeltacht
20.Cormac Coffey Kerins O’Rahillys
21.Killian Spillane Templenoe
22.Brian Ó Seanacháin Ballydonoghue
23.Peter Crowley Laune Rangers
24.Mikey Geaney Dingle
25.Tom O’Sullivan Dingle
26.Adrian Spillane Templenoe

Kerrydude1981

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

Just saw Kerry team for the weekend. Is Fitzmaurice trying to injure as many young players as possible? Jack Barry and Barry O'Sullivan being made to play 2 away games with Kerry in between tough Sigerson 1/4 final and semi-final with UCD is dumb at best, abusive at worst. Already Clifford, Seán O'Shea and Gavin Crowley are injured.
4 games in 11 days any time of year is ludicrous, but this time of year it is even more ludicrous, especially when it's for league games.

For the record, the squad is:
1.Shane Murphy (C) Dr. Crokes
2.Shane Enright Tarbert
3.Jason Foley Ballydonoghue
4.Ronan Shanahan Austin Stacks
5.Paul Murphy Rathmore
6.Andrew Barry Na Gaeil
7.Brian Ó Beaglaíoch An Ghaeltacht
8.Jack Barry Na Gaeil
9.Barry O’Sullivan Dingle
10.Micheál Burns Dr. Crokes
11.Dáithí Casey Dr Crokes
12.Stephen O’Brien Kenmare
13.Jack Savage Kerins O’Rahillys
14.Paul Geaney Dingle
15.Barry John Keane Kerins O’Rahillys

Fir Ionaid
16.Brian Kelly Legion
17.Brendan O’Sullivan Valentia
18.Matthew Flaherty Dingle
19.Éanna Ó Conchúir An Ghaeltacht
20.Cormac Coffey Kerins O’Rahillys
21.Killian Spillane Templenoe
22.Brian Ó Seanacháin Ballydonoghue
23.Peter Crowley Laune Rangers
24.Mikey Geaney Dingle
25.Tom O’Sullivan Dingle
26.Adrian Spillane Templenoe

So much for keeping an eye on the players workload.

DDC1990

Kerrydude1981 wrote:

So much for keeping an eye on the players workload.

What are you on about. Kerry players playing Sigerson had GPS units fitted and their stats monitored. In some cases (Ronan Shanahan) lads had an easier outing than they would have at training. A game is much more stop/start then training. Plenty more chances for recovery.

Fitz was happy that the lads at midfield didn't kill themselves and will be good to go on Sunday.

Injuries happen, with or without Sigerson games. The bulk of Kerry injuries over the years have come as a result of the 6 week layoff after the Munster Final without a match.

Instead of playing 2 Kerry matches and having 2 training sessions, lads have 3 matches.

As a player I'd have preferred that to be honest and if the stats come back good then i'm happy that the lads are playing.

ciarriaithuaidh

DDC1990 wrote: »

What are you on about. Kerry players playing Sigerson had GPS units fitted and their stats monitored. In some cases (Ronan Shanahan) lads had an easier outing than they would have at training. A game is much more stop/start then training. Plenty more chances for recovery.

Fitz was happy that the lads at midfield didn't kill themselves and will be good to go on Sunday.

Injuries happen, with or without Sigerson games. The bulk of Kerry injuries over the years have come as a result of the 6 week layoff after the Munster Final without a match.

Instead of playing 2 Kerry matches and having 2 training sessions, lads have 3 matches.

As a player I'd have preferred that to be honest and if the stats come back good then i'm happy that the lads are playing.

Ah would you stop. You or anyone else buying this "we monitored them with GPS units" stuff is deluding themselves.

I had no problem with 2 UCD lads playing in Castlebar as they hadn't played that week BUT now you are looking at Barry Dan and Jack Barry having 4 games in 12 days. Do you think that's ok for anyone, let alone younger players to have at this time of the year? Or any time of year?

Forget the bluffing with GPS stats. Think of the muscle wear and tear, the mental strain of return trips to Killarney, Castlebar from Dublin, the fact they will no doubt have niggles and knocks they will just play through etc.

The fact is, there was no need to pick the 2 lads this Sunday as we have seen and will see plenty of them in near future. This is just stupidity.
As was playing Clifford and O'Shea in Castlebar for their 3rd serious game in 7 days - especially Clifford who had a long trip to Belfast in the middle of it.
They both got injured then and Fitzmaurice throws out some bullsh*t about "oh any player could get injured" - Yes they could Eamonn but you massively increased the chances of those lads getting injured when it was quite obvious there would be plenty time to see Clifford when Tralee got knocked out for example.

I can't believe people will defend or fob off stuff like this and let it happen again and again.

ciarriaithuaidh

For the record, this is the 3 week schedule Jack Barry and Barry Dan are facing with game venues in brackets:

Tuesday Jan 23rd – Sigerson Rd 1 v Maynooth. (Maynooth)
Sunday Jan 28th – NFL v Donegal. (Killarney)
Saturday Feb 3rd – NFL v Mayo. (Castlebar)
Wednesday Feb 7th – Sigerson ¼ final v DCU. (DCU)
Sunday Feb 11th – NFL v Monaghan. (Inniskeen)
Wednesday Feb 14th – Sigerson Semi v UUJ. (Inniskeen)

Plus possibly - Saturday Feb 17th - Sigerson Final (DCU)

DDC1990

The rest of the players will face a similarly gruelling schedule of training.

Except instead of travelling from Dublin to Killarney midweek for training the lads had to go to Glasnevin which im sure suited them fine.

One of the affected players is loving the run of games (talked to him 2 nights ago). I'm sure the lads know their bodies well enough not to put it in harm.

I respect your point of view but I totally disagree on the GPS units. They give extremely accurate readings which professional sports scientists are analyzing.

I trust the professional judgement of the players and coaching staff.

Plenty of other things to beat them with, but not this for me.

ciarriaithuaidh

DDC1990 wrote: »

The rest of the players will face a similarly gruelling schedule of training.

Except instead of travelling from Dublin to Killarney midweek for training the lads had to go to Glasnevin which im sure suited them fine.

One of the affected players is loving the run of games (talked to him 2 nights ago). I'm sure the lads know their bodies well enough not to put it in harm.

I respect your point of view but I totally disagree on the GPS units. They give extremely accurate readings which professional sports scientists are analyzing.

I trust the professional judgement of the players and coaching staff.

Plenty of other things to beat them with, but not this for me.

I think most of the management are pretty bloody far from professional with all due respect.

Of course players love games and never say no to a manager, but players don't know what's best for them all the time.

You make no comment on the 3 injuries we've had already I notice?

I'll say no more on the matter for now anyway.

Poor_old_gill

The workload placed on the lads in the last few weeks will inevitable lead to injuries- all historical medical evidence would show this.

Even if a player is going fine in training- the selectors should err on the side of caution this time of the year- noone should be asked to play 3 games in 6/7 days.

Like all jokes aside- I want to see the young lads play but was shocked that there werent changes prior to throw in last Saturday- especially Clifford and Sean O

conor05

Lads just to let you know there is a pitch inspection tomorrow morning at 9am to see if Kerry v Monaghan goes ahead.
They will post up ther result of inspection fairly quick on that page.
Would be a wasted journey for ye if called off. Could be worth one of ye posting it on the Kerry GAA forum as i don’t have an account there.

DDC1990

ciarriaithuaidh wrote:

You make no comment on the 3 injuries we've had already I notice?

Fair enough on that point to be fair. Injuries happen regardless ofbSigerson action though

We have differing opinions. I can definitely see your side but i'd support our coaching and S&C staff to make the right calls in the end.

Ar the end of the day we all want the best for Kerry regardless of how we get there.

DDC1990

Pitch Inspection at 9am.

Pitch is playable, small covering of snow.

Final inspection at 11am but as of now the game goes ahead.

dobman88

Both games off. Not surprised. Weather has been crazy up this side of the country.

DDC1990

Total shambles, all reports indicated that there was more snow come, game should have been called at 9am.

Looks like the Sigerson lads will get the rest anyway

ciarriaithuaidh

Jesus that's a total shambles to announce game goes ahead and then pull it 2 hours later! I'd imagine many fans took it game was on and left or continued their journey's after hearing the 9am announcement. Much as with the Gaeltacht v Moy game situation a few weeks ago, very inconsiderate to the hardcore supporters who were travelling.

If it goes ahead next week (which it probably will) then it messes up the planned schedule for everyone..but at least the UCD lads can focus on Sigerson now as should have happened anyway!

DDC1990

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

Jesus that's a total shambles to announce game goes ahead and then pull it 2 hours later! I'd imagine many fans took it game was on and left or continued their journey's after hearing the 9am announcement. Much as with the Gaeltacht v Moy game situation a few weeks ago, very inconsiderate to the hardcore supporters who were travelling.

If it goes ahead next week (which it probably will) then it messes up the planned schedule for everyone..but at least the UCD lads can focus on Sigerson now as should have happened anyway!

Don't forget about Ronan Shanahan with DIT as well.

Looking at a few of the NUIG lads playing with Galway, they'll have their work cut out for them on Wednesday in Portlaoise though.

ciarriaithuaidh

DDC1990 wrote: »

Don't forget about Ronan Shanahan with DIT as well.

Looking at a few of the NUIG lads playing with Galway, they'll have their work cut out for them on Wednesday in Portlaoise though.

You're right, forgot about Shanahan. Saw NUIG play UCC, they were decent but UCC were a shambles. Just on paper DIT look decent but Brian Howard not playing with them is a blow.

Winners of UCD v Jordanstown game would be fancied. That'll be a good game. Down for Inniskeen ironically enough!

munster87

Good win for Glenflesk today!

dollar bill

The cult of the intercounty manager spreads itself into Kerry LGFA with the removal of the minor management team a week before the start of the season

DDC1990

1.
Shane Murphy
Dr. Crokes
2.
Shane Enright
Tarbert
3.
Jason Foley
Ballydonoghue
4.
Ronan Shanahan
Austin Stacks
5.
Paul Murphy
Rathmore
6.
Andrew Barry
Na Gaeil
7.
Brian Ó Beaglaíoch
An Ghaeltacht
8.
Jack Barry
Na Gaeil
9.
Barry O’Sullivan
Dingle
10.
Micheál Burns
Dr. Crokes
11.
Dáithí Casey
Dr Crokes
12.
Stephen O’Brien
Kenmare
13.
Jack Savage
Kerins O’Rahillys
14.
Paul Geaney
Dingle
15.
Barry John Keane
Kerins O’Rahillys


Fir Ionaid


16.
Brian Kelly
Killarney Legion
17.
Brendan O’Sullivan
Valentia
18.
Matthew Flaherty
Dingle
19.
Éanna Ó Conchúir
An Ghaeltacht
20.
Cormac Coffey
Kerins O’Rahillys
21.
Killian Spillane
Templenoe
22.
Brian Ó Seanacháin
Ballydonoghue
23.
Peter Crowley
Laune Rangers
24.
Mikey Geaney
Dingle
25.
Tom O’Sullivan
Dingle
26.
Adrian Spillane
Templenoe

Dummy team named with, Barry O'Sullivan, Jack Barry, Brian O'Seannachain, Matthew O'Flaithearta and Cormac Coffey all involved in Sigerson/Trench cup action the day before.

ciarriaithuaidh

DDC1990 wrote: »

Dummy team named with, Barry O'Sullivan, Jack Barry, Brian O'Seannachain, Matthew O'Flaithearta and Cormac Coffey all involved in Sigerson/Trench cup action the day before.

Dummy team? You never know with Fitzmaurice. Wouldn't be one bit surprised if he made them play. He rarely names dummy teams.

DDC1990

ciarriaithuaidh wrote:

Dummy team? You never know with Fitzmaurice. Wouldn't be one bit surprised if he made them play. He rarely names dummy teams.

If they play then I'll join the anti-Fitzmaurice bandwagon.

2 games in less than 24 hours is crazy.

It's only the league!

Kerrydude1981

The Kerry Senior Hurling Team to play Kildare in Round 3 of the Allianz Hurling League on Sunday 18th February, 2018 at 2pm in Newbridge is:



Pádraig Boyle is the Captain.



1.
Martin Stackpoole
Lixnaw
2.
John Buckley
Lixnaw
3.
Bryan Murphy
Causeway
4.
Sean Weir
Crotta O’Neills
5.
Tomás O’Connor
Crotta O’Neills
6.
Mikey Boyle
Ballyduff
7.
Daniel Collins
Kilmoyley
8.
Brandon Barrett
Causeway
9.
Dáithí Griffin
St. Brendans Ardfert
10.
Brendan O’Leary
Abbeydorney
11.
Shane Nolan
Crotta O’Neills
12.
Daniel O’Carroll
Ballyduff
13.
Padraig Boyle
Ballyduff
14.
Shane Conway
Lixnaw
15
Maurice O’Connor
Kilmoyley


Fir Ionaid:

16.
Stephen Murphy
Causeway
17.
Fionán Horgan
St. Brendans Ardfert
18.
Jordan Conway
Crotta O’Neills
19.
Colum Harty
Causeway
20.
Paudie O’Connor
Kilmoyley
21.
Jack Goulding
Ballyduff
22.
Philip Lucid
Ballyheigue
23.
Barry O’Mahony
Crotta O’Neills
24.
Paudie Quille
Crotta O’Neills
25.
Evan Murphy
Causeway
26.
Darren Dineen
St. Brendans Ardfert

DDC1990

DDC1990 wrote:

2 games in less than 24 hours is crazy.

Kieran Molloy just came on for NUIG a game and a half in less than 3 hours

The_Honeybadger

It’s the same team as last week by the looks of it, probably because they’ll use last weeks programme rather than print new ones. No chance those college lads will be made play. Brendan O’Sullivan and A.N Other in midfield. Hopefully Casey and Barry start and take their chance.

DDC1990

Good weekend for the Kerry lads playing Sigerson/Trench Cup with UCD and Mary I winning.

Now give them a fecking rest!

Jack Barry, Barry O'Sullivan, Brian O'Seannachain and Tom Leo O'Sullivan for UCD (Tom Leo didn't play today AFAIK)
Matthew Flaherty and Cormac Coffey for Mary I (plus 5 other Kerry club players on the team).

DDC1990

Wet day in Monaghan. Another good test for the young lads.

DDC1990

Poor first half cost us. Great fightback and Monaghan were there for the taking but a draw would have been tough on Monaghan.

Cormac Reilly a disaster for both sides. Awful incosistant.

Brendan O'Sullivan awful poor. Jack Savage had a poor game. Andrew Barry had a difficult game.

Seanie Shea and Burns were very good. Clifford came on and caused trouble. Wrong option a couple of times but physically well able. Got a punch in the gut which saw his marker sent off.

Eanna O'Connor made a huge difference in midfield when he came on. Big prospect for the future.

Needed a bit more from the more experienced heads up front when the game got tight. Some poor decisions.

Murphy and Begley decent again. S. O'Brien did an immense amount of running and was really dangerous.

Big mistake from Fitzmaurice not to start Daithí Casey IMO. Our attacks in the first half were very slow.

Will rue missed goal chance for Geaney and idiotic frees given away for pushing in the back etc.

Shane Murphy was very poor from kickouts. Gave Monaghan some very easy chances straight from kickouts. I wonder if its time to go back to Kelly. Nothing he could do for the penalty though.

Very difficult conditions to play in. Extremely wet and heavy. Took us till the second half to cop on really.

Enjoyable game but I feel like we wont be in the mix for a League Final by the end of the Dublin match.

I'd expect Galway and Dublin to have too much for us.

munster87

Really impressed with the work rate from Sean O Shea through-out. He was the one big positive for me today.

DDC1990

Monaghan's 4th point looked clearly wide as well. Not sure what it looked like on TV.

tanko

DDC1990 wrote: »

Monaghan's 4th point looked clearly wide as well. Not sure what it looked like on TV.

Looked well wide on TV also.

mystic86

Monaghan clearly wanted to take Geaney's threat away by engaging him in constant verbals and handbags (pushing etc.) off the ball and in fairness Geaney seemed to step up to it and give it back like he was proud to do so, without realising, it seemed, that it was exactly what Monaghan wanted him to do.

Boom__Boom

DDC1990 wrote: »

Monaghan's 4th point looked clearly wide as well. Not sure what it looked like on TV.

At first glance it looked wide but I think it was a curler.

Key thing for me is that there are younger lads clearly turning in performances of the the sort that says they want to be involved come the summer. Also some (just some) of the mistakes being made by the newer lads are the type I would put in the category of learning mistakes - lads doing things you would get away with in club matches but you don't at intercounty level - you'd imagine that they will learn from these.

The missing list today was as follows by my reckoning

1 Tadhg Morley
2 Fionn Fitzgerald
3 Mark Griffin
4 Kevin McCarthy
5 Darran O'Sullivan
6 Gavin White
7 Anthony Maher
8 David Moran
9 Johnny Buckley
10 Donnchadh Walsh
11 Kieran Donaghy
12 James O'Donoghue

Played 3rd level finals yesterday.
13 Jack Barry
14 Barry O’Sullivan
15 Brian Ó Seanacháin
16 Matthew Flaherty
17 Cormac Coffey

The White Feather

Bit of trouble in the Kerry Ladies Football camp with the chairperson and secretary resigning

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/kerry-lgfa-chairman-and-secretary-resign-after-management-controversy-828673.html

Redsoxfan

mystic86 wrote:

Monaghan clearly wanted to take Geaney's threat away by engaging him in constant verbals and handbags (pushing etc.) off the ball and in fairness Geaney seemed to step up to it and give it back like he was proud to do so, without realising, it seemed, that it was exactly what Monaghan wanted him to do.

No better team than Monaghan to get under your skin.

ciarriaithuaidh

Boom__Boom wrote: »

At first glance it looked wide but I think it was a curler.

Key thing for me is that there are younger lads clearly turning in performances of the the sort that says they want to be involved come the summer. Also some (just some) of the mistakes being made by the newer lads are the type I would put in the category of learning mistakes - lads doing things you would get away with in club matches but you don't at intercounty level - you'd imagine that they will learn from these.

The missing list today was as follows by my reckoning

1 Tadhg Morley
2 Fionn Fitzgerald
3 Mark Griffin
4 Kevin McCarthy
5 Darran O'Sullivan
6 Gavin White
7 Anthony Maher
8 David Moran
9 Johnny Buckley
10 Donnchadh Walsh
11 Kieran Donaghy
12 James O'Donoghue

Played 3rd level finals yesterday.
13 Jack Barry
14 Barry O’Sullivan
15 Brian Ó Seanacháin
16 Matthew Flaherty
17 Cormac Coffey

Of the players you mentioned above I think: Morley, Griffin, Darran, Gavin White, Dave Moran, Johnny Buckley, Jameso, Jack Barry are players that will seriously push for starting positions. Can't write off Donnacha and Donaghy either but to be honest, I'd be slightly worried if they were both regular starters this year.

I think, despite my distrust of Fitzmaurices judgement there is a lot to be hopeful about IF injuries and fitness don't impinge on the squad. (As an aside, I see Tim Murphy the Chairman on the line wearing an earpiece today - what the hell is going on there?!)

Not just on the game in Monaghan, but having seen them play a lot I would think that Jason Foley, Brian Begley, Micheál Burns, Seán O'Shea, David Clifford, Eanna O'Conchúir, Daithi Casey could all make meaningful contributions this year. There are others like Barry Dan, Killian Spillane, Shane Murphy (poor day today but has never been under this pressure before, will see how he reacts) and a few others who don't convince me right now but could prove themselves in time.
No point throwing up speculative teams now, but if Fitzmaurice doesn't lose the plot and go back to starting players who we know aren't up to it, then there could be a fresh looking Kerry team taking the field yet this year.

munster87

Boom__Boom wrote: »

At first glance it looked wide but I think it was a curler.

Key thing for me is that there are younger lads clearly turning in performances of the the sort that says they want to be involved come the summer. Also some (just some) of the mistakes being made by the newer lads are the type I would put in the category of learning mistakes - lads doing things you would get away with in club matches but you don't at intercounty level - you'd imagine that they will learn from these.

The missing list today was as follows by my reckoning

1 Tadhg Morley
2 Fionn Fitzgerald
3 Mark Griffin
4 Kevin McCarthy
5 Darran O'Sullivan
6 Gavin White
7 Anthony Maher
8 David Moran
9 Johnny Buckley
10 Donnchadh Walsh
11 Kieran Donaghy
12 James O'Donoghue

Played 3rd level finals yesterday.
13 Jack Barry
14 Barry O’Sullivan
15 Brian Ó Seanacháin
16 Matthew Flaherty
17 Cormac Coffey

Think Gavin Crowley will have a big year, missing as well yesterday?

Prop Joe

Decent performance considering the lack of midfield options,Good to see this thread busy again prefer it to the "monitored" forum

D'Agger

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

No point throwing up speculative teams now, but if Fitzmaurice doesn't lose the plot and go back to starting players who we know aren't up to it, then there could be a fresh looking Kerry team taking the field yet this year.

Enter Mikey Geaney, stage right

Tombo2001

Redsoxfan wrote: »

No better team than Monaghan to get under your skin.

Any championship I've seen involving Monaghan has featured Conor McManus being double marked, constantly fouled, niggled, and the QF last year an opposition player face down on the ground until the ref gave him a yellow card for really nothing at all; nothing about it in the papers the next day, unlike the penalty yesterday. They have one outstanding player and he's probably been fouled more than any other player in the country in the past five years. Bit much complaining when they do the same back.

Redsoxfan

Where did I complain?

DDC1990

Having been at the match there was very little niggle to be fair to both sides.

A few shoulders after scores (Clifford on Kerr) or after winning frees (Wylie on Geaney) but played in really good spirit.

The red card was for Kerr lashing out at Clifford into the stomach. Clifford was standing in front of him blocking him from running short for the kickout. Kerry forwards had been holding their men to stop the short kickout. Kerr just punched Clifford in the gut. Really wasn't anything dangerous or nasty. Seen plenty of our lads do the same and see the line.

I've seen a dirty side to Monaghan before. Even last year in Killarney there was awful shenanigans. But this year I'd have no complaints.

Ref was all over the shop though. Mad for pick ups off the ground (one on O'Brien was a good 30cm off the ground - but the Enright one was correct.). Didn't mind 3 players practically sitting on a player in posession (happened both sides). Barry John was shouldered in the chest and got no free. Then in the second half he broke through a tackle, kicked wide and got a free for nothing.

Wouldn't argue with the penalty. Murphy got the ball but also took the ankles out. Penalty for me. However the opposite call was made on James O'Donoghue vs Kildare in the quarter final a few years back. Goalkeeper slapped the ball, took James out but it was called play on.