Andre Ward

megadodge

walshb wrote: »

Read up on what a lie is..

I am not lying...a liar is a nasty label. It implies a sneaky and deceptive person, who deliberately makes a statement knowing it to be false but intending it to be believed to others.

Saying something that is a view or an opinion that may not be true does not automatically make it a lie, or someone a liar. Same way people can make genuine errors or mistakes that does not make them liars. We all can do this. No issue with anyone calling me out on anything they disagree with or question. I do draw the line at being accused of lying.

And I don't appreciate the term being flung my way.

Leaving this now.

Hey mods, I think Enda Kenny just hacked into Walshb's Boards account.

walshb

Maravilla33 wrote: »

I was saying earlier in the thread that I gave Ward big credit for stepping up to fight Kovalev but the Mayweather comment is BS. Who did you want him to fight? He was champ at super feather and ended up fighting Oscar and Canelo up at light middle winning belts in several divisions along the way. He's not exactly a big guy so deserves just as much credit for fighting someone like Canelo.

I agree. As much as I have praised and questioned and criticized Floyd, I think his career clearly shows more depth and variation than Ward’s.

nacho libre

Maravilla33 wrote: »

I was saying earlier in the thread that I gave Ward big credit for stepping up to fight Kovalev but the Mayweather comment is BS. Who did you want him to fight? He was champ at super feather and ended up fighting Oscar and Canelo up at light middle winning belts in several divisions along the way. He's not exactly a big guy so deserves just as much credit for fighting someone like Canelo.

I give him credit for beating Canelo, but it was fought on his terms. I would like to have seen him really step up and be out of his comfort zone.

boxer.fan

nacho libre wrote: »

I give him credit for beating Canelo, but it was fought on his terms. I would like to have seen him really step up and be out of his comfort zone.

Sure didn't he step up & fight the Notorious

walshb

nacho libre wrote: »

I give him credit for beating Canelo, but it was fought on his terms. I would like to have seen him really step up and be out of his comfort zone.

The 152 weight was a good move alright, and Floyd would have us believe that they didn't demand this. But you can bet they did. Canelo already struggling hard to make 154, and then he has to drop to 152.

Maravilla33

nacho libre wrote: »

Maravilla33 wrote: »

I was saying earlier in the thread that I gave Ward big credit for stepping up to fight Kovalev but the Mayweather comment is BS. Who did you want him to fight? He was champ at super feather and ended up fighting Oscar and Canelo up at light middle winning belts in several divisions along the way. He's not exactly a big guy so deserves just as much credit for fighting someone like Canelo.

I give him credit for beating Canelo, but it was fought on his terms. I would like to have seen him really step up and be out of his comfort zone.

Don't forget he used to be a super feather weight. I find it hard to agree with you praising Ward for moving a few lbs up to fight Kovalev and then criticise Mayweather for not moving up and testing himself. He properly went through the weights and whether you think he may have taken the easy route sometimes he was a proper weight hopper. I think sometimes he was a victim of his own ability and made some guys look like easier match ups than they were. 

I'm waffling on but in summary both Ward and Mayweather deserve credit.