Undertaking

dtipp

Maybe someone can settle this.

I drive on the Naas road in the small hours quite a bit, when there's usually little traffic.

Three lanes, 100km limit, I drive on the left lane at, say, 80-90km.
Every now and then, up ahead, there will be a car driving at 60-70km in the middle lane.

Legally, I am supposed to move into the middle lane, then the outside lane, overtake, back into the middle lane, and then back to the left lane? And, usually repeat a few minutes later when I meet the next car in the middle lane.

Question 1, Am I right that the law wants me to cross 4 lanes of traffic to pass out a car that shouldn't be in the middle lane?

Question 2, Am I right that I should ignore the law, and do the safer thing and stay in the left lane?

Riskymove

dtipp wrote: »

Question 1, Am I right that the law wants me to cross 4 lanes of traffic to pass out a car that shouldn't be in the middle lane?

Yes

Question 2, Am I right that I should ignore the law, and do the safer thing and stay in the left lane?

Is it "right"? not in the legal context

but obviously many do just that

Dravokivich

The problem with staying in the left lane and undertaking, is that it can be very hard to observe anything coming from the right of who you are undertaking.

I only do it in bunched up traffic. I wouldn't do it because someone is sitting in the wrong lane.

dtipp

Dravokivich wrote: »

The problem with staying in the left lane and undertaking, is that it can be very hard to observe anything coming from the right of who you are undertaking.

I only do it in bunched up traffic. I wouldn't do it because someone is sitting in the wrong lane.

True, my biggest concern when doing it is that the driver in the middle lane might be the type to just pull sharply into the left lane without looking or indicating. And then where legally would I be (presuming we all survive!)

FishOnABike

dtipp wrote: »

True, my biggest concern when doing it is that the driver in the middle lane might be the type to just pull sharply into the left lane without looking or indicating. And then where legally would I be (presuming we all survive!)

True, the type of driver who doesn't know which lane they are supposed to be driving is equally likely to be clueless about other aspects of their driving.

I've had this happen on a dual carriageway with a 'driver' hogging the overtaking lane at less 80Kmh, on an otherwise empty road where the limit was 100Kmh. I sat behind them for almost a mile hoping they'd get the hint but it was obvious they didn't use their rere view mirror either. I was considering undertaking but decided to drop back a bit and bide my time in the driving lane as who knows what the idiot might do next.

Sure as anything, about a half a mile further up the road, the car swung straight from the overtaking lane , across the driving lane and up the exit sliproad, without indicating. I was glad I had dropped back a bit as I would not have liked to have been closer to the idiot when they disd that.

In my experience you're better keeping a distance between yourself and someone who shows they are incompetent on the road,

eeguy

Is it undertaking if you're simply moving faster than the car in a lane to your right?

I thought undertaking was a maneuver, where you move from overtaking lane to left lane, undertake a car, then move back to overtaking lane.

SmartinMartin

you are perfectly entitled to pass traffic on the left if the traffic in that lane is moving slower than you.

colm_mcm

Correct thing to do would be pass them on the right.

SmartinMartin wrote: »

you are perfectly entitled to pass traffic on the left if the traffic in that lane is moving slower than you.

Don't think so. Don't have the exacts, but is that not traffic as in congestion as opposed to one car?

FishOnABike

eeguy wrote: »

Is it undertaking if you're simply moving faster than the car in a lane to your right?

I thought undertaking was a maneuver, where you move from overtaking lane to left lane, undertake a car, then move back to overtaking lane.

Yes, you should always overtake on the right and return to the driving lane once you have passed the car or cars you are overtaking. Don't remain inthe overtaking lane if you are not overtaking.

Overtaking on the left (or undertaking) is a no no unless you are in slow moving traffic, i.e. close to stationary, queued traffic.

tedpan

FishOnABike wrote:

Yes, you should always overtake on the right and return to the driving lane once you have passed the car or cars you are overtaking. Don't remain inthe overtaking lane if you are not overtaking.

Exactly.

FishOnABike wrote:

Overtaking on the left (or undertaking) is a no no unless you are in slow moving traffic, i.e. close to stationary, queued traffic.

Unfortunately not, but I agree with you. The rules of the road in Ireland say it's fine to undertake as long as you're traveling at similar speed. It's a rule that I'm not a fan of TBH.

FishOnABike

tedpan wrote: »

Unfortunately not, but I agree with you. The rules of the road in Ireland say it's fine to undertake as long as you're traveling at similar speed. It's a rule that I'm not a fan of TBH.

S.I. No. 182/1997: ROAD TRAFFIC (TRAFFIC AND PARKING) REGULATIONS, 1997
Overtaking

Section 10.

(1) A driver shall not overtake, or attempt to overtake, if to do so would endanger, or cause inconvenience to, any other person.

(2) A driver shall not overtake, or attempt to overtake, unless the roadway ahead of the driver— (a) is free from approaching traffic, pedestrians and any obstruction, and (b) is sufficiently long and wide to permit the overtaking to be completed without danger or inconvenience to other traffic or pedestrians.

(3) A driver shall not overtake, or attempt to overtake, on a stretch of roadway on which traffic sign number RUS 014 [no overtaking] has been provided.

(4) Subject to the provisions of sub-article (5), a driver shall overtake on the right and shall not move in towards the left until it is safe to do so.

(5) A driver may only overtake on the left—
( a ) where the driver of the vehicle about to be overtaken has signalled an intention to turn to the right and the driver of the overtaking vehicle intends, after overtaking, to go straight ahead or to turn to the left,
( b ) where the driver of the overtaking vehicle intends, after overtaking, to turn left at the next road junction and has signalled this intention,
( c ) in slow moving traffic, when vehicles in the traffic lane on the driver's right are moving more slowly than the overtaking vehicle.

TheQuietFella

SmartinMartin wrote: »

you are perfectly entitled to pass traffic on the left if the traffic in that lane is moving slower than you.

Absolutely not! The correct procedure is to overtake as suggested by the OP.

McCrack

Im not convinced that overtaking on the left as opposed to the right on a three lane road is or should be any more risky...the point that the driver being over taken could potentially cross to either lane without checking although I appreciate they are more likely to cross to the left rather than the right.

I always drive with lights on to try minimise these gob****es hogging middle/outside lanes crossing you and try encourage them to actually see you.

FishOnABike

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TheQuietFella wrote: »

Absolutely not! The correct procedure is to overtake as suggested by the OP.

Spot on. The limited circumstances where one can overtake on the left are set out in section 10 of S.I. No. 182/1997: ROAD TRAFFIC (TRAFFIC AND PARKING) REGULATIONS, 1997.

The definition of 'slow' could depend on the observing garda and district court judge (and their respective humours on the day). Anything other than slow moving, queued traffic where changing lanes is impractical, is outside the allowed exceptions. At normal driving speeds in free flowing traffic it's definitely against the law.

As it is the responsibility of the overtaker to ensure they do not endanger or inconvenience others, if anything goes wrong, the overtaker is on the back foot when it comes to liability.

dtipp

Good discussion here, fair play.

I think, as FishOnABike says, if anything were to go wrong as you were passing on the left side of a car, you'd be in trouble legally - no matter how it happened.

However, I must admit I will continue to do it. I'll be on a three-lane one-way road tomorrow night. When I see a car sitting in the middle lane (it's inevitable!) will I do the 4-lane shuffle to pass it? I doubt it.

Dravokivich

dtipp wrote: »

Good discussion here, fair play.

I think, as FishOnABike says, if anything were to go wrong as you were passing on the left side of a car, you'd be in trouble legally - no matter how it happened.

However, I must admit I will continue to do it. I'll be on a three-lane one-way road tomorrow night. When I see a car sitting in the middle lane (it's inevitable!) will I do the 4-lane shuffle to pass it? I doubt it.

It is the repsonsibilty of someone changing lanes to make sure it is safe to do so.

Dravokivich

McCrack wrote: »

Im not convinced that overtaking on the left as opposed to the right on a three lane road is or should be any more risky...the point that the driver being over taken could potentially cross to either lane without checking although I appreciate they are more likely to cross to the left rather than the right.

I always drive with lights on to try minimise these gob****es hogging middle/outside lanes crossing you and try encourage them to actually see you.

The expectation is that traffic is to be on the left. If you are undertaking someone, you have reduced observation of what is to the right of them. This is something I see all the time on the Lucan exit for the m50. One could be unprepared to deal with someone pulling in ahead of them. And then across you. Regardless of the concept of right of way, I'd not be comforted by it after a crash and rather not add to the amount of things I've to consider while driving.

jimmycrackcorm

dtipp wrote:

True, my biggest concern when doing it is that the driver in the middle lane might be the type to just pull sharply into the left lane without looking or indicating. And then where legally would I be (presuming we all survive!)

People who got middle lanes never do that. It's just not in their DNA.

Cookie_Monster

It's overtaking on the left, not undertaking!

While the correct procedure is to move to lane 2, then 3, over take and then back to 2 and back to 1 that's 4 separate manoeuvres instead of 0 and is pretty pointless in the grand scheme of things. The law needs to be changed to allow overtaking on the left, in modern times there's no need for the overtake on the right only-esque rule. Modern vehicle have mirrors on both sides.

grogi

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

It's overtaking on the left, not undertaking!

While the correct procedure is to move to lane 2, then 3, over take and then back to 2 and back to 1 that's 4 separate manoeuvres instead of 0 and is pretty pointless in the grand scheme of things. The law needs to be changed to allow overtaking on the left, in modern times there's no need for the overtake on the right only-esque rule. Modern vehicle have mirrors on both sides.

I disagree. The current law of not blocking overtaking lanes needs to be enforced and middle lane drivers should be fined. The news will spread with a speed of pint and you would be surprised how lane discipline improves... It even is a point offence (2pts, €60/€90 fine). Gardaí should just put a camera on the side of M50 and issue fines in bulk for the non-intercept offences...

Do you think we would have similar discussion if we speak German? Don't think so - it is €200 for driving in overtaking lane while not overtaking - and it is being enforced.

dil999

Overtaking on the left is a maneuver where you are behind a vehicle and you move to the vehicle's left. you speed up and pass the vehicle, and then move to the right again.

Maintaining a legal and safe speed in your particular lane, irrespective of the speed of drivers in lanes to your right is not overtaking. There is nothing in the rules of the road that tells to slow down to the speed of traffic on your right. in fact it specifically says: "You must progress at a speed and in a way that avoids interference with other motorway traffic"

If it was a requirement to reduce speed to the slowest vehicle to your right, traffic would grind to a halt.

cython

dil999 wrote: »

Overtaking on the left is a maneuver where you are behind a vehicle and you move to the vehicle's left. you speed up and pass the vehicle, and then move to the right again.

Maintaining a legal and safe speed in your particular lane, irrespective of the speed of drivers in lanes to your right is not overtaking. There is nothing in the rules of the road that tells to slow down to the speed of traffic on your right. in fact it specifically says: "You must progress at a speed and in a way that avoids interference with other motorway traffic"

If it was a requirement to reduce speed to the slowest vehicle to your right, traffic would grind to a halt.

Perhaps read the whole thread before responding the next time. The relevant section of the RTA which was already posted does not put this limitation/qualification on an overtake having to involve "active" changes in lane as you describe:

FishOnABike wrote: »

S.I. No. 182/1997: ROAD TRAFFIC (TRAFFIC AND PARKING) REGULATIONS, 1997
Overtaking

Section 10.

(1) A driver shall not overtake, or attempt to overtake, if to do so would endanger, or cause inconvenience to, any other person.

(2) A driver shall not overtake, or attempt to overtake, unless the roadway ahead of the driver— (a) is free from approaching traffic, pedestrians and any obstruction, and (b) is sufficiently long and wide to permit the overtaking to be completed without danger or inconvenience to other traffic or pedestrians.

(3) A driver shall not overtake, or attempt to overtake, on a stretch of roadway on which traffic sign number RUS 014 [no overtaking] has been provided.

(4) Subject to the provisions of sub-article (5), a driver shall overtake on the right and shall not move in towards the left until it is safe to do so.

(5) A driver may only overtake on the left—
( a ) where the driver of the vehicle about to be overtaken has signalled an intention to turn to the right and the driver of the overtaking vehicle intends, after overtaking, to go straight ahead or to turn to the left,
( b ) where the driver of the overtaking vehicle intends, after overtaking, to turn left at the next road junction and has signalled this intention,
( c ) in slow moving traffic, when vehicles in the traffic lane on the driver's right are moving more slowly than the overtaking vehicle.

In fact the bolded bits combined clearly deem passing on the left while both cars are in separate lanes to be overtaking on the left.

Isambard

The ignorance on Irish roads is astounding, I can't believe how many people make up their own rules. Oh and changing lanes is not difficult or dangerous, in fact it keeps me awake on a long journey to overtake properly. The solution to this sort of problem is to police the roads properly and get the lane hoggers sorted.

vrusinov

TBH, I don't see a problem with occupying middle line in light traffic - there is still a full line on the right to overtake and you don't mingle with entering/exiting traffic and trucks. I am one of those who keeps in middle line, although I do the speed limit, not 80. Overtaking somebody doing 80 in middle line in front of me is not a problem - just one line change to overtake (and one to return).

Obviously 80 is a bit too slow for middle line (or any line on N7 actually), but 90-100 is fine.

grogi

vrusinov wrote: »

TBH, I don't see a problem with occupying middle line in light traffic - there is still a full line on the right to overtake and you don't mingle with entering/exiting traffic and trucks. I am one of those who keeps in middle line, although I do the speed limit, not 80. Overtaking somebody doing 80 in middle line in front of me is not a problem - just one line change to overtake (and one to return).

Obviously 80 is a bit too slow for middle line (or any line on N7 actually), but 90-100 is fine.

Do you know there are four million motorists in this country in addition to YOU?

vrusinov

Sure, but a very few of them are on N7 Sunday 7am.

Henry Ford III

dil999 wrote: »

Overtaking on the left is a maneuver where you are behind a vehicle and you move to the vehicle's left. you speed up and pass the vehicle, and then move to the right again.

Maintaining a legal and safe speed in your particular lane, irrespective of the speed of drivers in lanes to your right is not overtaking. There is nothing in the rules of the road that tells to slow down to the speed of traffic on your right. in fact it specifically says: "You must progress at a speed and in a way that avoids interference with other motorway traffic"

If it was a requirement to reduce speed to the slowest vehicle to your right, traffic would grind to a halt.

Sorry but that's incorrect.

Passing on the lhs (or undertaking) isn't legal in the circumstances you described which I've highlighted. You must move lanes and pass on the rhs only. It's an inconvenience since middle lane hoggers are also breaking the law but one offence doesn't justify the other.

dil999

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Sorry but that's incorrect.

Passing on the lhs (or undertaking) isn't legal in the circumstances you described which I've highlighted. You must move lanes and pass on the rhs only. It's an inconvenience since middle lane hoggers are also breaking the law but one offence doesn't justify the other.

Nonsense.
There is nothing in the rules of the road that says you must reduce your speed to that of vehicles to your right. It is NOT overtaking. If what you say was correct it would be 1) illegal to merge onto a motorway 2) Motorway traffic would ground to a halt.

Overtaking, in the context of the rules of the road, is a specific manoeuvre, not the act of going faster than traffic in an adjoining lane.

http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Learner%20Drivers/Rules_of_the_road.pdf
"Before overtaking check that the way is clear, check in your mirror and
check your blind spots to ensure another vehicle is not approaching from
behind. Give your signal in good time, move out when it is safe to do so,
accelerate and overtake with the minimum of delay."

whomitconcerns

Try this fun on the M25 in UK...4 lanes, Im in lane 1....cross 3 lanes to overtake a car in lane 3 (of 4)..lane 2 is empty and lane 3 is almost empty. And then I have to move back to lane 1. Pain in the a$$ but it happens every time! And it becomes 5 lanes in places

_Kaiser_

This comes up on Motors every so often and it's really simple..

The OP is right.. only overtake on the right (UNLESS you're behind a car turning right and you're going straight on/left, OR the traffic on your right is moving slowly in heavy stop-start/congested traffic.. 60/70 km/h is not slowly)

Undertaking on the left at speed is dangerous as most drivers (although they should!) will not expect a car to be there if they themselves change lanes into that left lane, and in my experience it's usually a manoeuvre performed by people weaving between 2/3/4 lanes of traffic to get maybe a car length ahead.

Overtake on the right, or stay put until you can.

Henry Ford III

dil999 wrote: »

Nonsense.
There is nothing in the rules of the road that says you must reduce your speed to that of vehicles to your right. It is NOT overtaking. If what you say was correct it would be 1) illegal to merge onto a motorway 2) Motorway traffic would ground to a halt.

Overtaking, in the context of the rules of the road, is a specific manoeuvre, not the act of going faster than traffic in an adjoining lane.

http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Learner%20Drivers/Rules_of_the_road.pdf
"Before overtaking check that the way is clear, check in your mirror and
check your blind spots to ensure another vehicle is not approaching from
behind. Give your signal in good time, move out when it is safe to do so,
accelerate and overtake with the minimum of delay."

Incorrect.

It's quite clear that you may only pass traffic on the rhs bar those couple of exceptions which have been quoted already.

Passing someone by going faster in a lane on their lhs is overtaking (or undertaking) and is illegal. To even suggest otherwise is frankly laughable.

blondeonblonde

vrusinov wrote: »

Sure, but a very few of them are on N7 Sunday 7am.

So you drive in the middle lane at 7am on a Sunday morning when there is no traffic and the left lane is free? That is even more ridiculous.

Why not just drive in the appropriate lane? its not as if entering traffic, trucks etc will be forcing u out of your lane often at that time. I can understand your logic on somewhere like the M50 where at certain intersections, a large volume of traffic will be merging and you need to move out to facilitate that but when traffic is light it makes no sense.

overshoot

dil999 wrote: »

Nonsense.
There is nothing in the rules of the road that says you must reduce your speed to that of vehicles to your right. It is NOT overtaking. If what you say was correct it would be 1) illegal to merge onto a motorway 2) Motorway traffic would ground to a halt.

The RoTR is an interpretation of the law, not the law. Cyton has quoted the only thing a judge will care about. The initial "in slow moving traffic" wipes out the ability to undertake at normal speed on a motorway/duel carrigeway. Every word is important when you get into legal language.
Do i agree with it no... and i'd like to think any waiting garda car would do the middle lane moron first (if they'd ever enforce basic stuff like this)

hognef

overshoot wrote: »

and i'd like to think any waiting garda car would do the middle lane moron first (if they'd ever enforce basic stuff like this)

In my experience, the gardaí themselves often are the middle lane morons. They're not exactly leading by example (in any area of driving or driver behaviour), so I wouldn't be too confident.

shaunr68

whomitconcerns wrote: »

Try this fun on the M25 in UK...4 lanes, Im in lane 1....cross 3 lanes to overtake a car in lane 3 (of 4)..lane 2 is empty and lane 3 is almost empty. And then I have to move back to lane 1. Pain in the a$$ but it happens every time! And it becomes 5 lanes in places

And it's drivers like those you encounter who manage either through incompetence, ignorance or laziness to turn a multi billion pound stretch of one of the busiest motorways in Europe into a dual carriageway. Infuriating.

dil999

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

This comes up on Motors every so often and it's really simple..

The OP is right.. only overtake on the right (UNLESS you're behind a car turning right and you're going straight on/left, OR the traffic on your right is moving slowly in heavy stop-start/congested traffic.. 60/70 km/h is not slowly)

Undertaking on the left at speed is dangerous as most drivers (although they should!) will not expect a car to be there if they themselves change lanes into that left lane, and in my experience it's usually a manoeuvre performed by people weaving between 2/3/4 lanes of traffic to get maybe a car length ahead.

Overtake on the right, or stay put until you can.

You are correct. It is really simple.

If you are travelling in the left lane of a motorway at 120 km/h and you come along side someone in the right lane at 80 km/h. You should maintain your speed and continue travelling in your lane at the same speed. This will obviously mean you will pass the car that is on your right. This is not overtaking.

There is nothing in the rules of the road that prohibits you from maintaining your speed. In fact the rules of the road state "You must progress at a speed and in a way that avoids interference with other motorway traffic"

Isambard

did you read the post you quoted, which you agreed with and then contradicted.?

FishOnABike

dil999 wrote: »

You are correct. It is really simple.

If you are travelling in the left lane of a motorway at 120 km/h and you come along side someone in the right lane at 80 km/h. You should maintain your speed and continue travelling in your lane at the same speed. This will obviously mean you will pass the car that is on your right. This is not overtaking.

There is nothing in the rules of the road that prohibits you from maintaining your speed. In fact the rules of the road state "You must progress at a speed and in a way that avoids interference with other motorway traffic"

Wrong. This is overtaking.

If you look at the dictionary definition "Catch up with and pass while travelling in the same direction." (https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/overtake) or "an act or the process of moving past another vehicle or person travelling in the same direction" (https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/overtaking) there is no requirement thst one has to change lanes for it to be overtaking.

The legislation specifies thst one must overtake on the right with three specific exceptions permitted. Driving at 120kmh in the left lane, passing a car which is driving at 80kmh in the lane to your right is overtaking and is not one of the exceptions allowed.

You can argue whether it is a good law or not but it is the law.

dil999

FishOnABike wrote: »

Wrong. This is overtaking.

If you look at the dictionary definition "Catch up with and pass while travelling in the same direction." (https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/overtake) or "an act or the process of moving past another vehicle or person travelling in the same direction" (https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/overtaking) there is no requirement thst one has to change lanes for it to be overtaking.

The legislation specifies thst one must overtake on the right with three specific exceptions permitted. Driving at 120kmh in the left lane, passing a car which is driving at 80kmh in the lane to your right is overtaking and is not one of the exceptions allowed.

You can argue whether it is a good law or not but it is the law.

Its NOT overtaking in the context of the rules of the road. Overtaking in the context of the rules of the road, is a maneuver that requires moving to one side, passing a car and moving back to your original lane.
Basic common sense will tell you that maintaining your speed is not overtaking in this context.
If what you say was correct, it would be illegal to merge onto a motorway, because you often need to enter in front of a car already on the motorway. Common sense is used by judges when interpreting the law, and definitions used in terms of the context in which they they appear.

It is categorically not the law. If you thinks it is, show me in which road traffic act and in which section.

dil999

Isambard wrote: »

did you read the post you quoted, which you agreed with and then contradicted.?

Basic comprehension. I agreed it was simple. Nothing else.

Esel

"Judge, by my interpretation of the Rules of the Road, passing on the left is not overtaking. Therefore, you must dismiss the charge against me. Can I go now?"

grogi

Esel wrote: »

"Judge, by my interpretation of the Rules of the Road, passing on the left is not overtaking. Therefore, you must dismiss the charge against me. Can I go now?"

"Rules of the Road" is not Law!

S.I. No. 294/1964 - Road Traffic General Bye-Laws, 1964 is Law!

dil999

Esel wrote: »

"Judge, by my interpretation of the Rules of the Road, passing on the left is not overtaking. Therefore, you must dismiss the charge against me. Can I go now?"

Have you ever in your heard of anyone being charged with any offence related to "travelling faster in the left lane than traffic on the right". No? that's because there is no such offence.

dtipp

Think we need expert views and evidence.
Wonder what a garda or solicitor would say about this.
And wonder did this ever come up in a court room.

dil999

grogi wrote: »

"Rules of the Road" is not Law!

S.I. No. 294/1964 - Road Traffic General Bye-Laws, 1964 is Law!

Nobody could possibly interpret "overtaking" in the context of the 1964 SI as travelling faster in a left lane than traffic to your right. There were no dual carriageways or motorways in existence at the time.

dil999

dtipp wrote: »

Think we need expert views and evidence.
Wonder what a garda or solicitor would say about this.
And wonder did this ever come up in a court room.

A solicitor maybe, The Gardai, as much as I respect and appreciate the job they do, are not always experts on the finer points of the law.

I guarantee you there has never been a case.

Henry Ford III

dil999 wrote: »

Its NOT overtaking in the context of the rules of the road. Overtaking in the context of the rules of the road, is a maneuver that requires moving to one side, passing a car and moving back to your original lane.
Basic common sense will tell you that maintaining your speed is not overtaking in this context.
If what you say was correct, it would be illegal to merge onto a motorway, because you often need to enter in front of a car already on the motorway. Common sense is used by judges when interpreting the law, and definitions used in terms of the context in which they they appear.

It is categorically not the law. If you thinks it is, show me in which road traffic act and in which section.

Passing another car is overtaking. It's baffling that you cannot grasp this.

dil999

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Passing another car is overtaking. It's baffling that you cannot grasp this.

You are obviously easily baffled. In the context of the rules of the road it is not. Look up the word context. it might help you.

FishOnABike

dil999 wrote: »

It is categorically not the law. If you thinks it is, show me in which road traffic act and in which section.

S.I. No. 182/1997: ROAD TRAFFIC (TRAFFIC AND PARKING) REGULATIONS, 1997 see http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=104783584&postcount=11

Isambard

the Law is quite clear. You may not pass on the left except on specific circumstances. The actual Law was quoted earlier, you havechosen to ignore it.

Henry Ford III

dil999 wrote: »

You are obviously easily baffled. In the context of the rules of the road it is not. Look up the word context. it might help you.

I'm not.

RTA makes it quite clear what's legal and what's not. It's also been spelt out several times for you already.