Cork GAA Discussion Thread

Pogue eile

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120825822#Comment_120825822

I don't know if the rules are different for Camogie but if same as hurling then the umpire can't make that call unless he is asked by the referee. It's an awfully grey area and should really be cleared up.

thesultan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120800397#Comment_120800397

I don't think politics play any part now.

Cork have similar type of forwards,fast and skilful.. they still depend way too much on Harnedy(,only ball winner) and Horgan..need a new marquee man not yer 35 year old.

Young Cunningham looks a good ball winner.

zetecescort

Ladies football 1/4 final v Armagh about to start on TG4

zetecescort

Cork 0-5 Armagh 0-5 HT. Armagh seem to be running through us easily, some poor finishing keeping us in it

zetecescort

Held on to win by a point, Dublin or Donegal next in the semi

The White Feather

We went 2 points up twice then gave away 2 goals. Lucky not to give away a third with a super save from our keeper.

Made heavy work of it but conditions were very poor.

Ref was very poor throughout for both sides.

zetecescort

Best of luck to the camogie team later. Hopefully we can build on the Kilkenny win.

Live on RTE, 5:30 throw in

funkey_monkey

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120883230#Comment_120883230

Not fussed on the celebrating of the Cork defenders for each free out they get.

Galway aren't at the races at all. Can only see Cork winning this one.

The White Feather

So annoying to hear Ger Canning keep on reminding us that Sorcha McCartan was born in Down. Said it every time she was near the ball. Drives me mad but she is off now at least so I won't hear it again

ShamoBuc

A fine and well deserved win for Cork.

Delighted for them.

Bring on Waterford!!!

The White Feather

Great win and was a bit more nervy than it should have been. Bench made a huge difference

Saoirse McCarthy was immense. Some fantastic running and a joy to see when she puts on the afterburners along that wing.

Up the Rebels!!

ShamoBuc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120883913#Comment_120883913

That was probably because they were properly pumped up.

Losing the last 8 games v Galway would do that.

Cork have upped that bit of aggression needed to win v Kilkenny and now Galway.

Given their losses in the last 2 finals were indeed Kilkenny and Galway, I don't see Waterford stopping their momentum in the final.

Freneys Treasure

Yeah, the roaring in the faces of opponents by one Cork player in particular, that I won't name, when frees were won by Cork was pretty distasteful.

The_Kew_Tour

They were the far better team. Hopefully they get over line in final. Need show more aggression again I think. We are bit too nice

Straight Talker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120885623#Comment_120885623

It's always seems to be distasteful when Cork do it, when other counties do it it's all seen as part of the game. I'm very happy with how everything went. By god we were up for that one. Galway did have a hoodoo over us, but that ended yesterday thankfully!

JKerova1

Not a big GAA expert or anything but how come the ladies teams are consistently competitive and successful in recent years while the senior men are just disappointing in both codes?

callaway92

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120887436#Comment_120887436

Because there's about 4 competitive teams at the top of both codes for Ladies. Teams below the top tiers aren't trying anything different and are relying on 'passion' to try to nick a result. Bar the odd occasion where a lower tier team somehow gets an unreal underage crop coming up (Antrim potentially for example); it's a small pool of possible winners.

Facilities come into it too. Limerick don't even have a 'home' Camogie pitch for example, so they're often left asking clubs left right and centre for somewhere to train even.

weadick

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120887891#Comment_120887891

You could say the same thing about the mens though. There is only a handful of teams in each code who have a chance of winning an All-Ireland. In football there is one team in Munster, one team in Leinster, two or three at a push in Connaught and a couple from Ulster. The whole hurling championship consists of Munster plus Kilkenny and Galway.

windy shepard henderson

in my opinion its because cork put more into the ladies game then any other county ,

i got in early to watch the 1/4 final against kilkenny , saoirse mccarthy is a top class hurler herself and aoife healy and cliona healy ,

s/c wise they are way ahead of the rest denise gaul was player of the match and kept KK in the game but the kilkenny forwards struggled that day

in the past in the mens game in years gone by cork made sure their best players up and coming had jobs that suited there training program , but nothing has hit cork hurling like the combo of jp mcmanus and munster rugby if the 1987 film ,the clash of the ash was made now , blacky connors would end up signing for munster

Seadin

Alot was made of Killkenny putting it up to Limerick yesterday in the first half but you got to remember in the 2021 All Ireland final, Cork got beaten out the gate but still managed to score more than what Kilkenny did yesterday in total and concede roughly the same amount of points. 15 points is very low and will not win you an All Irelands in the modern game even by getting one or two goals. I think this Kilkenny team were overrated coming into this final and I put Galway and Clare ahead of them this year even though they didn't get there. I think there is a famine coming in Kilkenny similar to what Cork have in hurling.

lukin

The Irish Examiner will not be live-streaming any Cork County championship games this year. However the Cork County Board are making an announcement this week about the live televising of Cork County championship games.

Straight Talker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120887436#Comment_120887436

Frank Murphy and the rest of his minions had nothing to do with the ladies teams, that would have a lot to do with it!😂 We are a sleeping giant in both codes. The potential is there to be winning (more so in the hurling) all Irelands on a frequent basis in both codes. We are the largest county and we have the most clubs, yet we've only won three senior hurling all Irelands and one senior football all Ireland since 1990. Four all Irelands in thirty three years, that sure is a poor enough record.

lukin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120896309#Comment_120896309

Things can change in an instant though. After Limerick won the All-Ireland in 1973 they played in five more finals (1974,1980,1994,1996 and 2007). They lost every one of them.

They won in 2018 by the skin of their teeth and played in four more finals. They won every one of them.

So they lost five AI finals in a row and won five AI finals in a row.

Straight Talker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120896374#Comment_120896374

Success doesn't just arrive out of thin air though. A lot of work was put in at underage level, to turn Limerick into the hurling machine that they currently are, as well as the physical conditioning etc. Of course they have the skill as well. I think as long as the Stade De Frank remains a financial burden, then adequately financing the preparation of our senior intercounty teams, will continue to be a challenge and a burden going forwards.

lukin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120896483#Comment_120896483

The Pairc Ui Chaoimh debt is a completely separate entity to the financing of the inter-county teams. That is a well-established fact. There is no money being siphoned off to pay the debt from whatever profits the Cork County Board generate. I'd be the first to criticise the CCB but they are not that stupid; if it was discovered that money meant for the financing of the county teams was being used to pay off the debt there would be blue murder in Cork GAA circles. So using the PUC debt as an excuse for our underachievement at senior level just doesn't wash I am afraid.

Anyway we have been very successful at underage level in hurling recently (three u-20 AI's and two minor AI's in the last four years) so that proves the debt is not holding us back . We just haven't been good enough at senior level (yet).

lukin

https://gaacork.ie/2023/07/26/cork-gaa-launches-new-streaming-service-rebels-online/

Straight Talker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120897293#Comment_120897293

Nice spin but i don't buy it.The money we are paying towards the stadium, is money that is being diverted from the preparation of our intercounty teams. The costs with regards to the building of the stadium are way over budget. The debt actually seems to be increasing as opposed to decreasing! This despite concerts and rugby matches being held there. The clubs did nothing except keeping their mouths shut. That stadium was built on Frank Murphys terms only. If you know anything about Cork, then you'd know that the golden rule was that whatever Frank Murphy says goes.

Oh i agree we haven't been good enough at senior level. The county board took apart and dismantled a winning professional coaching structure, to bring in Gerald McCarthy to put manners on the players. In a declaration of open war, they then reappointed Gerald for a two year extension as manager and plunged the county into civil war. It took about ten years for the toxins to clear after that third strike. In 2013 they hired Brian Cuthbert as Conor Counihans successor as opposed to John Cleary, because Cuthbert was happy enough to allow Aidan Walsh to go off and play hurling and Cleary was having none of it.

Those two managerial appointments caused serious damage that sent Cork hurling and football into prolonged periods of decline. The tide finally seems to be turning in hurling, but in football we seem to be struggling to produce top class senior intercounty standard forwards. Of course Frank has been gone nearly five years now, but the damage was already done by then sadly. The new guy Kevin O'Donovan is doing his best, but he inherited an awful mess. You go on about underage all Irelands, and while all that is great and very encouraging senior level is a totally and utterly different ball game. In 2019 we won a minor and u20 football all Ireland double, yet despite that we still seem to be a fair bit off winning a senior all Ireland in football.

lukin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120899242#Comment_120899242

It's not spin. If our inter-county teams were being under-funded because of the PUC debt then we wouldn't have won those minor and U-20 All-Ireland's I mentioned. It's about time Cork supporter's got off this hobby-horse of blaming Frank Murphy/the County Board for our failure to win AI's at senior level. It's a get-out clause that is being over-used.

Btw in football Cork never had top class forwards. The only two we had in the last thirty years were Larry Tompkins and Daniel Goulding (and Larry Tompkins wasn't even from Cork 😀)

Rega

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120904036#Comment_120904036

Colin Corkery?

Donncha O'Connor?

Colm O'Neill?

Philip Clifford?

Joe Kavanagh?

Patrick Kelly?

Straight Talker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120904036#Comment_120904036

We're still underfunded at senior level in comparison to Limerick and Dublin. As for your last comment, well Colin Corkery, Joe Kavanagh, Colm O'Neill, and Donncha O'Connor were fine players. You little troll you! You aren't even from Cork!😁