Cork GAA Discussion Thread

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Very bad decision by the ref. Would he even check with the umpires. Shane O'Donnell ran into O'Donoghue.

Seadin

Short year for Cork now anyway. Just not good enough. Pathetic.

namloc1980

7 points up and ended up losing. Ryan needs to go.

awaywithyou

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122073540#Comment_122073540

The Gaa must be brutally stuck for referees when they are still giving james owens games to ref... he is brutal.. or else he loves being the centre of attention

ACitizenErased

**** unbelievable refereeing performance, he hadn’t a **** clue

Vinnie222

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122073540#Comment_122073540

It was a body check. Silly to do when you're on a yellow

lukin

Gutted but not surprised. Ryan has had two years now and has been unable to get us out of Munster. Another year down the toilet.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122073612#Comment_122073612

Cork should never agree to play a game if he is the referee, he hates Cork, always shafts them.

Seadin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122073648#Comment_122073648

Ryan must go now. Pathetic management and we are going no where with him there. Bringing on Cahalane and gets a yellow. Brain-dead management.

Seadin

He was never good enough.

magic17

Pure stupidity costs us again. Really believe we would have won at least 1 of the games if we had kept 15 on the field.

Fair play to Horgan and Harnedy, they stood up today after being horrendous last weekend. Some other excellent performances out there too I thought.

Surely we have a better goalkeeper in Cork than Patrick Collins. His distribution today was really bad and it's a consistent theme with him. It absolutely destroyed the momentum we built up after halftime and let Clare right back into it without having to do anything to earn it. Would Dalton be worth a shot in 2025? He can strike the ball accurately at least.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122073664#Comment_122073664

Thats a bit harsh, the sendings off today and last week were very harsh.

But for that and some very wasteful finishing in goal scoring areas Cork would likely have 2 wins.

The White Feather

Jeez we really fought well there to the end at least. Ref was very bad. Seemed to love giving Clare frees and the 2 yellows for O Donoghue were very bad. Both were the same thing really. Clare fella running full force into him. I would not give anything for either but if something was given it would be a free out. Definitely not a free in and a yellow. Thats crazy. Owens should be taken off all inter county matches.

Once that red happens its going to be very hard at this level.

Looking to our own performance, which we have to, Collins in particular was a very key weak link. I lost count of his bad distribution that directly led to a Clare point. It was at least 3 in the first half and more in the second. I said this at half time about him and ref so it was clear to see.

ACitizenErased

Referee aside we absolutely shat ourselves again today. Pat Ryan did great things at U21 level but my god we've gone backwards. Very few positives to take.

JanuarySnowstor

The Cork defence seems to be the issue in both games sofar. I personally think the team just isn't quite good enough as was the case last year. If they can't win with 30K fans behind them when will they? Out of the championship in April lol. Strange times....

thehairygrape

We can’t keep blaming referees. Next year it’ll be 20 years since Cork won an All Ireland. This years U20 team have never witnessed a Cork team winning an All Ireland. Very unlikely to even get out of Munster for the second year in a row. I just can’t see where we’re going at this stage tbh. We’re about to become the Offaly of Munster. Sad. Players must be gutted, they give their all.

Seadin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122073697#Comment_122073697

Nothing harsh but reality. Same old Cork.

awaywithyou

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122073648#Comment_122073648

tbh i think he hates every team

The White Feather

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122073706#Comment_122073706

Exactly right! Today was a fourth consecutive championship defeat for us.
In the Pat Ryan era, we have just one championship win from six. Only one championship win from last seven. Its not good enough

Charlie69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122073529#Comment_122073529

James Owen’s is a very very bad referee, I’ve said before it’s all about him and he’s so arrogant he actually thinks he’s doing a great job.

namloc1980

1 win in 6 Championship games under Pat Ryan, and that was against a rubbish Waterford team last year. Not good enough.

DellyBelly

We've got the hurlers to be competitive but what we don't have is the steel or heart to get it over the line when the chips are against them...been like that for years and is now a pattern....

namloc1980

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122074076#Comment_122074076

They've gone backwards. 1 win in 6 Championship games. Brutal.

thesultan

Corks half back.line destroyed today.

Straight Talker

There have been a few could have and should have moments, with regards to Pat Ryan's tenure as Cork manager.

In Cork hurling though could haves and should haves mean jackshit.

We've only won one championship match under Pat Ryan and are facing yet another group stage exit for a second year in succession.

That just doesn't cut the mustard really. Blowing a seven point lead was a pretty epic bottle job by Cork.

Limerick will be coming down to Cork next week to put some manners on us. Are we going to stand up and put up some sort of fight, or are we going to let them walk all over us?

Credit to Hoggie and Harnedy they played well today i thought. Out of the more senior players i'd retain them, and look to blooding as much of the all Ireland winning u20's as possible next year.

I wouldn't trust Pat Ryan for this job. Great Cork GAA man he tries his best etc, the mans an even worse Cork hurling manager than John Meyler and Kieran Kingston at this stage though.

So i do think we should give the job to Ben O'Connor next year if he wants it. Those U20's are our future the likes of Conor Lehane and Damien Cahalane are not. We need changes in the goalkeeping department as well.

We've just been a bunch of walter the softies at senior level for the last decade and a bit. You'd hope that someone like Ben O'Connor could change all that.

Anyway it will be twenty years without a senior all Ireland next year, and we've only won four championship games out of six at this stage under Pat Ryan's very "tactically astute" management.

We're such an easy team to score against as well. I think that is more of a tactical issue, than it is a playing personnel one though.

I just don't think Pat Ryan is capable of turning it around and a change of manager is needed. I think we should possibly even consider candidates from outside the county at this stage.

Well done to Clare though. I wish them well in their efforts this year at stopping Limerick. The current form line of both teams would suggest that they are a better team than us right now.

We're on course to be the lowest ranked team in Munster at this stage! Pat Ryan dug his own grave as Cork manager at Walsh Park last Sunday imo.

Losing that game really put us on the backfoot, considering that we had the second best team in Munster in Clare and an all conquering Limerick team up next after it.

Straight Talker

We basically need Tipp to beat Waterford to give us some chance. Then beat Tipp and hope we sneak through on scoring average, unless we pull off a surprise against Limerick.

Where will Tipps heads be at after the beating Limerick gave them today though? Unless we drastically improve then things could get ugly against Limerick.

We gave them a game last year but we've gone backwards from that sort of form this year imo.

Pat Ryan is well into his second year as manager at this stage, and he still hasn't found a settled starting fifteen.

ShamoBuc

We are not out of it yet. Permutations, scoring averages might come into it. We want Tip to beat Waterford (Clare and Limerick too) and beat Tip. Maybe even get something from the Limerick game too - you'd never know.

On to the game - just Drop Collins !!!!! He cost us between 1-04 and 1-05 today with his God Awful distribution.

If any other player was as poor as him they would ber taken off - but not the keeper - who Always costs us scores sure as night follows day. Of course, he won't be dropped, but he is such a liability.

Same old story of losing possession in the half forwars putting the defence under pressure. Defence did better tiday, out in front of their men alot.

Turning point was the goal missed when we were 6 or 7 points up - that would have been the clincher.

Oh, and the ref........ the mind boggles, it really does.

windy shepard henderson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122074736#Comment_122074736

100% ye are not out of it , for a start it was a much better game then last week in ennis which means limerick will have to step it up if they are to win in the paric

genuinely i joked last week on a clare hurling form that you never know james owens might screw our opposition for a change instead of us , and he did ,the second yellow on niall o'leary was a joke given the level of overall physicality in the game , he reffed a game in ennis in the league against kilkenny this year and left both sets of supporters highly confused through out the game , he gave tipperary a penalty a few years back and a black card for a foul that happened nearly 30 yards to the left of the goal

the level of fight is serious when cork get their tails up its maintaining it is the problem , either side of half time ye looked much the better side , at 7 points up ye look liked ye were coasting , some desperate passages of play fell into our hands after that , then in the last 5 or ten minutes the fight back took place led by hoggie , but he almost seemed to be on his own

niallo27

He took O’Donnell out off the ball. Yellow all day long. It was pure stupidity. Cork had cleared the goal chance.

windy shepard henderson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122074840#Comment_122074840

the game was on a knife edge , there were loads of tackles like that all day , if we are going to be that technical about it how many yellow cards could adam hogan got today , we are far too caught up in referee decisions when it goes wrong but today we played james owens at his own game