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Cork GAA Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    Buckley taken out there. Weird how there was no free.

    We should be just going for goals now. Use it as practice for the next day.

    We keep shooting from way too far out and missing. The whole game its been happening



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭Seadin


    Lads this has been a right collapse of a performance.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    Yes its a really bad performance all round. Crazy shot selections non stop, bad tackling and just generally second to the ball every time.

    I think they might meet again. Hopefully the result will be different



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    might calm the calls for O'Connor to be next senior manager for a while



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭Seadin


    I was thinking the same thing. I actually don't know what is the solution.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,880 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Poor performance but being qualified already had a part to play I'm sure.

    Once they hit knockout I'm sure the performances will be better.

    The U20's have had a stellar few years and throwing any doubt on O'Connor based on tonight needs to be tempered with the the previous performances , which seem very easily forgotten by a few.



  • Registered Users Posts: 583 ✭✭✭Corcaigh84


    Tipp's first touch overall was about a 9/10 whereas ours was woeful, we came out of most rucks without the ball (just like the Seniors) and we tend to be far less cute trying to retain possession - ie jabbing the ball too high and letting a Tipp man get flick in. In contrast we can't seem to tackle correctly, and didn't identify the ref blew against the defenders every single time they stood up their man.

    I would have found the incident hilarious when the ref heard the Tipp man hit his hurley off our No. 5's stick but gave a free in to Tipp - but by then we were 4 goals down. Serious increase in effort needed the next day.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    Pat Ryans previous efforts at both club and intercounty have been forgotten by a few lately too. Not saying he should have the job for as long as he wants or that results dont matter but he was the best candidate by far at the time and he should get our full support while in the job.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,880 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    If you are not good enough you are not good enough, plain and simple.

    Club history matters very little v intercounty history.

    O'Connors v Ryan's is a bit chalk and cheese currently.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    With regards to Pat Ryan and this he needs our full support thing, well results and performances will dictate that i'm afraid.

    If it's another group stage exit with just one or two championship wins this year, then alarm bells will be ringing.

    He has been unlucky at times for sure, but i think getting out of the group stage at the very least should be the bare minimum requirement of a Cork manager.

    He has a good track record at u20 level but senior level is a totally and utterly different ball game to u20 level altogether.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



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  • Registered Users Posts: 34,143 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Both codes need be seriously looked at and how we devlop players.

    Doing something right in Hurling in fairness. Would not worry too much about last night as hopefully saving a few gears for later.

    I would give Ryan much more time had he picked younger players coming through but that been the stark thing about his selections this season, with no u20 player from last two years making the cut. Big question mark right there.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    Ladies football: Cork 0-11 Tipperary 0-10 FT



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    Big win today for the Cork Ladies Footballers.

    MLGFA Championship Round 3

    Tipp 0-10 Cork 0-11

    2 points in the last 2 minutes to turn it around and win it



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭Seadin


    We have a bigger task at our hands now with the result of the Tipp v Waterford game. Can't see us turning this one around. Cant see us beating Limerick. I am not expecting anything only a loss so can't get myself excited enough to go and watch the game.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭Seadin


    I agree. The standards arent good enough and until this improves we aren't going to be winning All Irelands anytime soon. Whoever is in charge of developing the underage players isn't doing a good job. We are accepting mediocrity in Cork GAA for at least 3 decades now and nobody is bold enough to challenge the setup and say come on lads enough is enough let's do what it takes to get Cork GAA back winning again in both codes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,042 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    would it not be better if he was allowed to operate a transitional period , he after all was the u20 manager for most of them victorys , he looked like a man under pressure over in cusack park in February let alone last week ,

    all of this is assuming the limerick game goes away from ye , looking at facts , we probably should have beaten limerick in week 1 , we beat ye in week two narrowly , which was a much improved performance from the previous week on your part, so next week is still all to play for

    but if limerick win surly the sensible thing to do is to use the tipp game as the starting point for a transition that will also take place over the Couse of next year , and realistically set a target of 2027 onwards for success , the conveyor belt is still running at underage level too but its no point saying the future is bright if you are not going to properly give players a chance , its exactly what we done in 2011 and 2012 before 2013



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,042 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    would cork supporters allow for a period of transition over the next few years and maybe one or two bad results along the way in order for long term success , you have had a lot of really good under age sucess latley



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    For some reason i'm confident enough we'll put in a performance against Limerick next week.

    Whether it'll be good enough to win i don't know, but if we are down to our last two games for the year then at least go out with a bang.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,042 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    tommy walsh said it last week in commentary no one in munster has ever got 8 points in one campaign , to me this is a banana skin for limerick



  • Registered Users Posts: 624 ✭✭✭sportsfan90


    Tipp did it in 2019.
    The last time Cork got blown away in a match was against Limerick in the first round of 2022. Since then Cork have lost 6 matches, but the biggest losing margin was 3 points. So while very competitive in every game, they’ve struggled to get over the line in tight matches.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,042 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    i am no good for stats the tin foil people must have been right , ever since that vaccination my memory has gone to mush 🤣



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    Unfortunately Tipp couldn't do us a favour against Waterford. Defeat to Limerick next Saturday and the show is over for 2024, and it will be official that our wait for Liam McCarthy will extend into it's 20th year. And we thought at the time, that 1990 to 1999 was going to be our last lengthy all Ireland drought!

    We're all desperate for that all Ireland at this stage, but we may have to wait another couple of years yet. The step up to senior level might be tough but 2025 needs to be all about integrating a fair few of the U20 players into the senior panel.

    Beat Limerick though and we live to fight another day. The players need to be ready for this, Limerick are coming down to bury us next Saturday. It's going to take by far our best performance of the year to beat them.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,880 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    But Tip did do us a favour. Had Waterford won, Cork were out. Win 2 games and hope Waterford lose their next 2 and we qualify.



  • Registered Users Posts: 910 ✭✭✭Vinnie222


    Massive pressure on Cork next weekend. Hard to see them getting the result that's required.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,880 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Massive pressure yes. Its a real 'knock out championship' game for Cork, which is what I'm looking forward to seeing.

    Only 3 points or less separating the sides over the past 5 or 6 games - I'm expecting a close game and hopefully a pen decision goes in our favour for a change and that could make the difference.

    I certainly wouldn't fear Limerick in anyway for this game. I think we are due a win.



  • Registered Users Posts: 910 ✭✭✭Vinnie222


    Think Cork have gone backwards. Limerick at full strength will win handy imo . We know this time next week



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭Seadin


    They won't be on the right side of the result anyway that's for sure. I love to see it but we all have high expectations next week and that's when they won't win. I don't want to say it but Limerick would have to collapse badly for Cork to win this one and it just won't happen . I will record and watch afterwards. Not able to watch Cork games anymore without feeling tense. Not good for one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭Seadin


    Like I said, Cork would have to play the hurling of their lives and Limerick would want to be so badly under par and referee in our favour to have any hope. I think it's safe to say our championship is over next Sunday. It's a safe bet I think.



  • Registered Users Posts: 640 ✭✭✭supernova5


    I would give Cork a right good chance, apart from the 2021 All Ireland final games between them have been extremely close, I don't think Limerick will win all their round robin games [they know they can afford to lose at least one and still make a Munster final]



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭Widdensushi




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