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DickSwiveller

housetypeb wrote: »

Doesn't surprise me-I've seen your posts defending religion and mocking atheists, while at the same time complaining about the nanny state.

Religious people suffer from cognitive dissonance.

You mean you disagree with me.

DickSwiveller

housetypeb wrote: »

Doesn't surprise me-I've seen your posts defending religion and mocking atheists, while at the same time complaining about the nanny state.

Religious people suffer from cognitive dissonance.

And yes, I'll continue to attack those insufferably smug, arrogant atheists.

housetypeb

DickSwiveller wrote: »

And yes, I'll continue to attack those insufferably smug, arrogant atheists.[/QUOTE

Love your fellow man and all that jazz.

Edward M

Gods are the best creation ever by man to keep himself from being insufferable.
Women are the best creation ever by god to keep men thinking that they are the best thing god ever made.

mickrock

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

I dislike people who can work but don't

It's mainly jealousy that makes people dislike those who don't want to work.

A quote from Rose Macaulay in 1926:
"Work is a dull thing; you cannot get away from that. The only agreeable existence is one of idleness, and that is not, unfortunately, always compatible with continuing to exist at all."

Except now, with the welfare state, it is certainly compatible.

DickSwiveller

mickrock wrote: »

It's mainly jealousy that makes people dislike those who don't want to work.

A quote from Rose Macaulay in 1926:
"Work is a dull thing; you cannot get away from that. The only agreeable existence is one of idleness, and that is not, unfortunately, always compatible with continuing to exist at all."

Except now, with the welfare state, it is certainly compatible.

I would much rather work than be idle. Working gives a person a sense of purpose.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

DickSwiveller wrote: »

mickrock wrote: »

It's mainly jealousy that makes people dislike those who don't want to work.

A quote from Rose Macaulay in 1926:
"Work is a dull thing; you cannot get away from that. The only agreeable existence is one of idleness, and that is not, unfortunately, always compatible with continuing to exist at all."

Except now, with the welfare state, it is certainly compatible.

I would much rather work than be idle. Working gives a person a sense of purpose.

What if your job is passing butter?

DickSwiveller

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

What if your job is passing butter?

Same answer.

Paddy Cow

mickrock wrote: »

It's mainly jealousy that makes people dislike those who don't want to work.

A quote from Rose Macaulay in 1926:
"Work is a dull thing; you cannot get away from that. The only agreeable existence is one of idleness, and that is not, unfortunately, always compatible with continuing to exist at all."

Except now, with the welfare state, it is certainly compatible.

That's not controversial, it's silly. If someone won the lotto and decided never to work again, I'd be jealous but I wouldn't hold it against them. If someone decides they can't be arsed working and will claim the dole until they're old enough to claim the pension, I'm not jealous, I'm annoyed that working people have to fund them.

My controversial opinions:
1 Irish is an official language in law only. Only 12,000 people speak it as their first language. It should be scrapped as a compulsory subject for the LC. It's not fair that you have to have it to go to a university or for certain jobs. Plenty of courses need full or nearly full points like medicine/veterinary. Those students would be better off spending their time on science subjects and not on something they will never use once they finish their Irish exam. I've never met a vet who needed Irish to look after an animal.

2 We should scrap the constitution. It was written nearly 100 years ago when times were very different. Society evolves and laws should be able to evolve with it without having to revert to something that was set in stone before any of us were born. Yes I know we can have referendums but they take up massive resources and have people at each others throats.

3 It's great that the UN have a charter of Human Rights but there should also be a charter of Human Responsibilities. For every right you have, you should also have a responsibility to society. If your rights are breached, you hold those accountable. If you breach your responsibilities, society gets to hold you responsible without you being able to claim some sort of bullsh!t that gets you a free pass.

4 There is no such thing as "undocumented Irish" in America. They are illegal immigrants. If I go into a shop and steal something and get caught, I can't claim to be an "undocumented borrower" and spin a sob story about my family to make people feel sorry for me. I knew what I was doing was wrong. I took something with the intention of not paying for it and never giving it back. That makes me a thief.

People who go to America and overstay their visa know exactly what they are doing. They go to great lengths to hide themselves and selfishly many decide to start families. It's the families on both sides of the Atlantic I feel sorry for. Because of the selfish choices of one person, the family in Ireland might never see them again because the person can't come home, even for a funeral. The family in America might lose a mother/father/partner because the illegal is caught and deported.

The hypocrisy over this is staggering. In Ireland illegals are cluttering up the system and should be sent home but the poor undocumented in America should be granted amnesty.

5 Gender is not fluid. Either you have a penis or a vagina. You can be born in the wrong body and wish to transition which means surgery but if you have a penis and are very attached to your penis and want to keep it, then you are male. If you want to keep your vagina, then you are female. You cannot have a penis and a vagina. There is no grey area here. You can be male with feminine attributes but that does not make you female. You can be female and drawn to things that are considered traditionally male but that does not make you male. Just because you might have a lot in common with the opposite sex it doesn't mean you are gender fluid. It just means that men and women don't fit into neat little boxes when it comes to personality.

Omackeral

Paddy Cow wrote: »

4 There is no such thing as "undocumented Irish" in America. They are illegal immigrants. If I go into a shop and steal something and get caught, I can't claim to be an "undocumented borrower" and spin a sob story about my family to make people feel sorry for me. I knew what I was doing was wrong. I took something with the intention of not paying for it and never giving it back. That makes me a thief.

People who go to America and overstay their visa know exactly what they are doing. They go to great lengths to hide themselves and selfishly many decide to start families. It's the families on both sides of the Atlantic I feel sorry for. Because of the selfish choices of one person, the family in Ireland might never see them again because the person can't come home, even for a funeral. The family in America might lose a mother/father/partner because the illegal is caught and deported.

The hypocrisy over this is staggering. In Ireland illegals are cluttering up the system and should be sent home but the poor undocumented in America should be granted amnesty.

I think you'll find this to be a very popular opinion here tbh.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Anyone who thinks that the moderation on boards.ie (or in any publication for that matter) makes them feel they can't present a "controversial" opinion without being banned or shutdown by some kind of mythical or liberal agenda / Nazitish-gestapo moderation, for being racist or bigoted either;

A - has very poor debate skills and is not capable of making said point in manner that is an any way constructive and is too proud to accept the blame;

or

B - is genuinely a racist or bigot.

(In fairness, I'd imagine 90% of cases would be category A)

mynamejeff

3 It's great that the UN have a charter of Human Rights but there should also be a charter of Human Responsibilities. For every right you have, you should also have a responsibility to society. If your rights are breached, you hold those accountable. If you breach your responsibilities, society gets to hold you responsible without you being able to claim some sort of bullsh!t that gets you a free pass.


This !

sbsquarepants

DickSwiveller wrote: »

I would much rather work than be idle. Working gives a person a sense of purpose.

If your purpose is just to work, then you have no purpose!

Work to me is a means to an end, the only thing I get from it is wages, if I won the lotto I'd stop working immediately. I'll retire the very day it becomes financially feasible for me to do so.

I don't dread coming to work or anything like that, I like my job, I like the people I work with - but the reason I'm here is the money, nothing else. If there was no money in it, I wouldn't be here, and no amount of sound blokes to chat to, or hot foreign women to lust after would change that, it's really as simple as that. Money is the one and only reason I work.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

sbsquarepants wrote: »

If your purpose is just to work, then you have no purpose!

Work to me is a means to an end, the only thing I get from it is wages, if I won the lotto I'd stop working immediately. I'll retire the very day it becomes financially feasible for me to do so.

I don't dread coming to work or anything like that, I like my job, I like the people I work with - but the reason I'm here is the money, nothing else. If there was no money in it, I wouldn't be here, and no amount of sound blokes to chat to, or hot foreign women to lust after would change that, it's really as simple as that. Money is the one and only reason I work.

I'm guessing you don't pass butter.

Your Face

I like the fashions of the 1980s Miami Vice.

paleoperson

Only women have an instinctive negative view of prostitutes and the reason is because they think (with some legitimacy) it's unfair how they're using their bodies to get stuff. I know lots of men also do, but I feel like that's more of a social/religious thing.

bodhrandude

The revolution will not be televised, the revolution will be no reruns brother the revolution will be live - Gil Scott Heron.

Paddy Cow

paleoperson wrote: »

Only women have an instinctive negative view of prostitutes and the reason is because they think (with some legitimacy) it's unfair how they're using their bodies to get stuff. I know lots of men also do, but I feel like that's more of a social/religious thing.

I think men also have a negative view of prostitutes. They'd happily use their services but they aren't going to look at them as marriage material. Women might feel threatened that the prostitute will offer her services to her husband and make it easier for him to stray.

jonnny68

snowflakes and the PC brigade are freaks and lead a totally and utterly bizarre life, they deserve all the abuse they get.

jonnny68

Your Face wrote: »

I like the fashions of the 1980s Miami Vice.

word,. a million times better looking than the horrible skintight jeans and generic clones thesesays

Autochange

Ireland is a greedy blood sucking shole.

suicide_circus

Your Face wrote: »

I like the fashions of the 1980s Miami Vice.

*rolls up sleeves of white blazer*

BBDBB

suicide_circus wrote: »

*rolls up sleeves of white blazer*

hey! nice espadrilles :cool:

old_aussie

Putin leads the way with his humanitarian bombing in Ghouta. Only 403 civilians dead.

Hector Bellend

Your ma's your oul one

repeal the hate

El Tarangu

repeal the hate wrote: »

I think your meme might be too subtle...

pleas advice

Space Dog

I hate fry-ups. The thought of a full Irish for breakfast makes me gag.

repeal the hate

El Tarangu wrote: »

I think your meme might be too subtle...

Yeah, maybe should have gone more Michael Healy-Rae than Michael D. Higgins
Hey, wait are you saying I made a meme?!? Where do I collect the cheque from?

Now, THIS would have been too subtle (and possibly grammatically verboten):

The_Kew_Tour

I'm all for people who might have serious illness to get a social Welfare.

But I would stop people getting Social Welfare for most others things.

It's made this country a lazy one and too many people get handouts. Child benefit because you have a child is a joke. Want have Children provide for them.

mynamejeff

Having read the various reports and literature Maurice Mccabe was wrong to do what he did ,

He misunderstood the difference in the way things are vs the way things should be and was unable to handle that realization.

In doing so he allowed left wing politicians to destroy our national police force forcing them to spend millions of euro and thousands of man hours on over sight instead of policing the country.

What policing in Ireland needs proper leadership and resource not a crackpot making wild allegation at every turn
and scaremongering the uninformed and ill equipped to deal with the matter.

sightband

mynamejeff wrote: »

Having read the various reports and literature Maurice Mccabe was wrong to do what he did ,

He misunderstood the difference in the way things are vs the way things should be and was unable to handle that realization.

In doing so he allowed left wing politicians to destroy our national police force forcing them to spend millions of euro and thousands of man hours on over sight instead of policing the country.

What policing in Ireland needs proper leadership and resource not a crackpot making wild allegation at every turn
and scaremongering the uninformed and ill equipped to deal with the matter.

I’d go one further and say that there is definitely something dodgy, unsavoury and unlikeable about McCabe and he’s not this whistleblowing hero he’s made out to be. The level of disdain there is for him in an Garda Síochana doesn’t just come out of thin air.

Ajsoprano

sightband wrote: »

I’d go one further and say that there is definitely something dodgy, unsavoury and unlikeable about McCabe and he’s not this whistleblowing hero he’s made out to be. The level of disdain there is for him in an Garda Síochana doesn’t just come out of thin air.

I’ve read this thread and that’s the first thing I’ve seen that’s properly shocked me.

sightband

Ajsoprano wrote: »

I’ve read this thread and that’s the first thing I’ve seen that’s properly shocked me.

I’d respond in detail but my shift in the station starts in twenty minutes and I’ve a serious backlog of breath tests to falsify.

Ajsoprano

sightband wrote: »

I’d respond in detail but my shift in the station starts in twenty minutes and I’ve a serious backlog of breath tests to falsify.

And murders to reclassify.

quintana76

Justin Trudeau is a stranger to vanity.

smilerf

Led Zeppelin were overrated.
They have about 3 good songs the rest are average. As for their lyrics god they were just terrible

Ash.J.Williams

mynamejeff wrote: »

Having read the various reports and literature Maurice Mccabe was wrong to do what he did ,

He misunderstood the difference in the way things are vs the way things should be and was unable to handle that realization.

In doing so he allowed left wing politicians to destroy our national police force forcing them to spend millions of euro and thousands of man hours on over sight instead of policing the country.

What policing in Ireland needs proper leadership and resource not a crackpot making wild allegation at every turn
and scaremongering the uninformed and ill equipped to deal with the matter.

The way things are got a woman murdered did it nor?

cantdecide

smilerf wrote: »

Led Zeppelin were overrated.
They have about 3 good songs the rest are average. As for their lyrics god they were just terrible

'Babe I'm gonna leave you' is a very good example. The song has strength and panache but the vocals are very weak and the arrangement makes it sounds half produced, IMO. The lyrics are pretty juvenile and Plant rambles and meanders leaning on his inherent style and star quality rather than his occasionally amazing talent.

I think they have about three truly great songs and they have many classics but vocals are a very weak link overall...

/goes and puts on Kashmir LOUD!!!

mynamejeff

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

The way things are got a woman murdered did it nor?

and thats still the way things are still today , nothing mccabe has done has changed the bail laws or policing practices in a positive way .

BorneTobyWilde

Is it correct to say the Beast from the East is dead in the water? The snow event that was predicted all last week for Tuesday and Wednesday is now a non event ? And now we are hoping this completely different weather system pushing up from South will be snow and not rain on Friday.?
Is that where we are at? Clutching at straws if that's the case, a lot of people will have egg on their faces and not snow.

El Tarangu

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Is it correct to say the Beast from the East is dead in the water? The snow event that was predicted all last week for Tuesday and Wednesday is now a non event ? And now we are hoping this completely different weather system pushing up from South will be snow and not rain on Friday.?
Is that where we are at? Clutching at straws if that's the case, a lot of people will have egg on their faces and not snow.

Posted a bit too soon there

retalivity

The handling of the storms by the government this week has been a joke, it is not that bad - particularly in dublin. I have seen worse snow towards the tail end of last year in the north and the west, and the same furore was not made. It is really reinforcing the view that if something is only worth handling/tackling/reporting on if it is affecting dublin and its environs.
full disclaimer - i am in dublin 8, and woke up to about 10cm of snow this morning, and a relatively clear road outside - hardly the apocalyptic event that has been forecast. its been thawing since, even though there is light snow again now outside

17larsson

retalivity wrote: »

The handling of the storms by the government this week has been a joke, it is not that bad - particularly in dublin. I have seen worse snow towards the tail end of last year in the north and the west, and the same furore was not made. It is really reinforcing the view that if something is only worth handling/tackling/reporting on if it is affecting dublin and its environs.
full disclaimer - i am in dublin 8, and woke up to about 10cm of snow this morning, and a relatively clear road outside - hardly the apocalyptic event that has been forecast. its been thawing since, even though there is light snow again now outside

Damn government, they're a disgrace Joe.

Where I live the snow is covering the top of the ditches in places. A definite once in a lifetime event

Quazzie

retalivity wrote: »

The handling of the storms by the government this week has been a joke, it is not that bad - particularly in dublin. I have seen worse snow towards the tail end of last year in the north and the west, and the same furore was not made. It is really reinforcing the view that if something is only worth handling/tackling/reporting on if it is affecting dublin and its environs.
full disclaimer - i am in dublin 8, and woke up to about 10cm of snow this morning, and a relatively clear road outside - hardly the apocalyptic event that has been forecast. its been thawing since, even though there is light snow again now outside

If you cared to look beyond the end of your own nose, you'd realise it is a country wide problem with many problem experiencing several feet of snow.

retalivity

I have looked beyond, ive family up north and west, they have had sleet effectively all week, yet schools, post offices etc have been shut down in a mad panic. I've been out yesterday and today, and i've experienced worse snow in Ireland in the last 4 months, so it is not a once in a lifetime event.
That photo above, what is the context there? Is it in dublin or halfway up the wicklow mountains? Some people in more rural leinster seem to have had more snow than most, i guess they are lucky that due to the locality of the storm, they are getting coverage and awareness.

17larsson

retalivity wrote: »

I have looked beyond, ive family up north and west, they have had sleet effectively all week, yet schools, post offices etc have been shut down in a mad panic. I've been out yesterday and today, and i've experienced worse snow in Ireland in the last 4 months, so it is not a once in a lifetime event.
That photo above, what is the context there? Is it in dublin or halfway up the wicklow mountains? Some people in more rural leinster seem to have had more snow than most, i guess they are lucky that due to the locality of the storm, they are getting coverage and awareness.

You experienced snow nearly two metres high in the last four months, where was this?

retalivity

17larsson wrote: »

You experienced snow nearly two metres high in the last four months, where was this?

where are you experiencing 2 metre high snow? a ditch with a wall against it doesnt count

Quazzie

retalivity wrote: »

I have looked beyond, ive family up north and west, they have had sleet effectively all week, yet schools, post offices etc have been shut down in a mad panic. I've been out yesterday and today, and i've experienced worse snow in Ireland in the last 4 months, so it is not a once in a lifetime event.
That photo above, what is the context there? Is it in dublin or halfway up the wicklow mountains? Some people in more rural leinster seem to have had more snow than most, i guess they are lucky that due to the locality of the storm, they are getting coverage and awareness.

In the midlands. Low lying so I'm not even at high altitude. Road out the front is blocked by a 6ft high snow drift. The whole area is locked down.