Parking Fine

Victor

MonkieSocks wrote: »

Just asking a question:


Does anyone know, what the correct process a Traffic Warden has to follow when they see a Vehicle parked on Double Lines?

No insider knowledge, but:
* Fill in the form.
* Attach notice to vehicle if possible.
* Submit form for processing.

MonkieSocks

Victor wrote: »

No insider knowledge, but:
* Fill in the form.
* Attach notice to vehicle if possible.
* Submit form for processing.

Yeah, thought it might be something like that. Thanks Victor

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So a possible a Possible Paper trail could exist.

A page number in Ticket Book with date,time and details.

Does the Warden have to produce a copy of the ticket when a case goes to court?

GM228

MonkieSocks wrote: »

Victor wrote: »

No insider knowledge, but:
* Fill in the form.
* Attach notice to vehicle if possible.
* Submit form for processing.

Yeah, thought it might be something like that. Thanks Victor

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So a possible a Possible Paper trail could exist.

A page number in Ticket Book with date,time and details.

Does the Warden have to produce a copy of the ticket when a case goes to court?

The warden does not have to fill in the form and attach it to the vehicle, that is optional, it can be given personally OR via post OR affixed to the vehicle. The notice IS the record (a copy of such) which is retained and no there is no legal requirement to produce it as there is a statutory presumption of the registered owner receiving it until the contrary is shown.

Fred Swanson

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MonkieSocks

GM228 wrote: »

The warden does not have to fill in the form and attach it to the vehicle, that is optional, it can be given personally OR via post OR affixed to the vehicle. The notice IS the record (a copy of such) which is retained and no there is no legal requirement to produce it as there is a statutory presumption of the registered owner receiving it until the contrary is shown.

Cheers

So a traffic warden can, ticket a car without having to prove an offence has been comitted.

Peregrinus

MonkieSocks wrote: »

Cheers

So a traffic warden can, ticket a car without having to prove an offence has been comitted.

Well, of course. That't the whole point. And how could it be otherwise? The ticketing of the car is done on the spot; any proving won't be done until the case comes up in court, if it ever does, which will be weeks later.

The whole idea of the ticketing system is to save the state, and the putative offender, the needless trouble and expense of a day in court if they both wish to avoid that. If the offender would rather have his day in court then he can have that, and in that event the state will have to prove the offence before he can be convicted and fined. But if it's a fair cop gov, you've got me bang to rights, then you can minimise the consequences for yourself by accepting the ticket and avoiding the trial.

DonalB1

Victor wrote: »

Eh, your driver licence file? Register of electors? Lease? Bills? An Post records Hauling you and your girlfriend before the court to give evidence? Whatever about you, would your girlfriend perjure herself and claim you didn't live there? For a parking ticket?

Why would she have to perjure herself?

There is more than one person from my area of the same name. All the county council have is a name, an address and a reg. I no longer live at the address, I no longer own the car and there are multiple people of the same name.

I never changed my address officially to the apartment I was renting (ie gov doc or bank statements). Car and utilities were only things with that address used. So there is nothing tying me to that address.

There's no licence or any documentation with car ownership other than a name, my apartment has also been sold so no landlord and new tenents don't know me or who I am.

The summons didn't come by registered post, so I can claim to never have received and if it does come again I won't receive it as I am no longer there.

If the guards call to serve a summons to me by process of elimination I'll just say no you have the wrong John smith and that'll be that, how can they prove that was me or my car? Why would it involve my girlfriend at all?

I realise all the above make me sound like a prick but I'm not going to be out of pocket for something I didn't do. I can get a solicitor to fight this, leaving me footing that bill or I can go to court myself and it'll be 50/50 who's word the judge believes and those odds simply aren't good enough for me.

MonkieSocks

Peregrinus wrote: »

Well, of course. That't the whole point. And how could it be otherwise? The ticketing of the car is done on the spot; any proving won't be done until the case comes up in court, if it ever does, which will be weeks later.

But the op said there was no ticket on his car.

If a warden can just write down a plate number, that could be potently open to Abuse.

Anyway ave a look at this in the uk :P


http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/762826/car-parking-app-illegal-report-mobile-app

Fred Swanson

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