Vegas shooting incident

RocketRaccoon

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

His name is all over twitter.

TBH the guy everyone suspected of carrying out the Boston Bombing's name was everywhere - even legitimate news organisations were retweeting his identity.

Turned out the poor person had been dead by that point. His family were put through hell because of trigger happy retweets.

I'm not saying the name isn't true, but that the Boston Bombing aftermath and witch-hunt should never happen again.

pilly

So it can't be blamed on the Muslims this time so it turns into a left vs right row?

Why the fcuk can't people accept that a lot of these shootings are merely psychopaths looking for 15 minutes of fame?

server down

VinLieger wrote: »

And you are failing at reading, nobody is claiming he said what you are arguing about

Statement.

Going by his Facebook posts and shares the guy was an anti-Trump leftist.


Response:

Being anti Trump does not make one a "leftist", hardly call Republicans like John McCain a "leftist".

That second quote is the logic fail. You quoted it approvingly.

Outlaw Pete

Tell me how wrote: »

Read your own post again. You never said "appears"

Jesus Christ.

I said "going by his FB posts" and "going by" means 'appears' ffs!!

And again, I was talking about that particular guy, not every single person on the planet who is anti-Trump.

Hande hoche!

Deleted User wrote: »

TBH the guy everyone suspected of carrying out the Boston Bombing's name was everywhere - even legitimate news organisations were retweeting his identity.

Turned out the poor person had been dead by that point. His family were put through hell because of trigger happy retweets.

I'm not saying the name isn't true, but that the Boston Bombing aftermath and witch-hunt should never happen again.

Yeah, the reddit detectives really didn't help things.

VinLieger

server down wrote: »

Statement.

Going by his Facebook posts and shares the guy was an anti-Trump leftist.


Response:

Being anti Trump does not make one a "leftist", hardly call Republicans like John McCain a "leftist".

That second quote is the logic fail. You quoted it approvingly.

Please provide evidence of the shooter being a "leftist" and ill agree

Pelvis

wakka12 wrote: »

Manhunt for second shooter, described as asian female. Strange

That's not what is happening.

Berserker

wakka12 wrote: »

Manhunt for second shooter, described as asian female. Strange

Really, news reports were saying that there was only one shooter. I see they have closed the airport for the moment to stop people leaving.

BPKS

pilly wrote: »

So it can't be blamed on the Muslims this time so it turns into a left vs right row?

Why the fcuk can't people accept that a lot of these shootings are merely psychopaths looking for 15 minutes of fame?

Because that wouldnt support whatever agenda people are trying to drive.

Hande hoche!

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Yeah, the reddit detectives really didn't help things.

It wasn't just their fault though. They started it, but the media should share the brunt of the blame -- the likes of Perez Hilton and other reporters sharing out the name to their hundreds of thousands or millions of followers.

Arsemageddon

wakka12 wrote: »

Manhunt for second shooter, described as asian female. Strange

Surely this should be called a woman hunt?

Berserker

pilly wrote: »

Why the fcuk can't people accept that a lot of these shootings are merely psychopaths looking for 15 minutes of fame?

What and turn down a great chance to make the "other side" look bad?

511

VinLieger wrote: »

Please provide evidence of the shooter being a "leftist" and ill agree

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VinLieger

Arsemageddon wrote: »

Surely this should be called a woman hunt?

Is that sexist or not though? I cant tell anymore.......

A "person hunt"?

Gatling

pilly wrote: »

So it can't be blamed on the Muslims this time so it turns into a left vs right row?

It's the whole everyone wants to blame one side or the other ,

It's just another case of an angry man with access to guns and high capacity magazine or belts

511

511 wrote: »

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Do we have an official confirmation of his identity though?

Berserker

wakka12 wrote: »

Manhunt for second shooter, described as asian female. Strange

Is that not sexist?

VinLieger

VinLieger wrote: »

Please provide evidence of the shooter being a "leftist" and ill agree

It's not about proof or even this situation.

It's a total failure of logic and if you can't agree to the post you just replied to, you're simply refusing to do so for no good reason.

Gatling

pilly wrote: »

So it can't be blamed on the Muslims this time so it turns into a left vs right row?

It's the whole everyone wants to blame one side or the other ,

It's just another case of an angry man with access to guns and high capacity magazine or belts

VinLieger

VinLieger wrote: »

Is that sexist or not though? I cant tell anymore.......

A "person hunt"?

Psshaw.

Guaranteed someone would say, "did you just assume my species? Dontcha know I'm an owl or some stupid sh1t".

Let's just go with "hunt".

Berserker

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Yeah, I take back calling him an anti-Trump leftist. I don't what was thinking.

Yeah, he was from Arkansas and they voted for Trump. The anti-Trump brigade will be along once it's officially confirmed.

VinLieger

511 wrote: »

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LOL the american qualification of left sure....... saying democrats are on the left is like saying Fianna Fail are on the left.

Anyone calling themselves left in america is really just centre/centre right

Hande hoche!

Feel a bit bad for Mark Lutchman if that pics doing the rounds.

Wanderer78

Gatling wrote:

It's just another case of an angry man with access to guns and high capacity magazine or belts

I'd say he's not only angry but probably mentally very unwell to

511

Deleted User wrote: »

Do we have an official confirmation of his identity though?

I don't know know, but his wife has been identified and the photos match. She's on his friends list.

whiskeyman

Got a feeling the reason will be he didn't like country music / the festival kept him awake etc..
Just seems so indiscriminate.

dav3

Why exactly are people posting facebook profiles? Is this based on something the headcases from 4chan and reddit have said, or is it confirmed?

silverharp

here is FB of people he follows, seems like a similar character to the guy that shot the Republican politicians

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511

VinLieger wrote: »

LOL the american qualification of left sure....... saying democrats are on the left is like saying Fianna Fail are on the left.

Anyone calling themselves left in america is really just centre/centre right

He's a Bernie Sanders supporter. Hilary would be right wing by European standards, but not Bernie. You have to remember America is a two-party system, even antifa vote Democrats.

elefant

One of the groups liked on that page is the National Gun Victims Action Council.

The whole incident sounds horrendous, and I feel a level of self-loathing for even feeling a modicum of hope that it is/isn't something connected to one thing or the other. Senseless suffering.

For Forks Sake

VinLieger wrote: »

LOL the american qualification of left sure....... saying democrats are on the left is like saying Fianna Fail are on the left.

Anyone calling themselves left in america is really just centre/centre right

What most Americans call "leftists"would be to the right of the Tories by European standards.

511

511 wrote: »

I don't know know, but his wife has been identified and the photos match. She's on his friends list.

Do we have an official confirmation of her identity?

You might be right and it might be them, but after everything that happened in the aftermath of the Boston Bombing then we need to have due diligence.

Dirty bastard whoever he is.

Beefy78

Deleted User wrote: »

Do we have an official confirmation of her identity?

You might be right and it might be them, but after everything that happened in the aftermath of the Boston Bombing then we need to have due diligence.

Yes, the police released her name

silverharp

silverharp wrote: »

here is FB of people he follows, seems like a similar character to the guy that shot the Republican politicians

[snip]

I used some JS to get the list.

A Day of Rest
Addicting Info
Admirals Club - Los Angeles
Al Franken
Alan Grayson
Alliance for Retired Americans
AlterNet
AMA Patients’ Action Network
American News
Americans Against The Republican Party
Anti-Trump Army
Backed By Fact
Barack Obama
Being Liberal
Bernie for Prezz
Bill Maher
Bill Maher Fanpage
Bill Moyers
Bipartisan Report
Bloomberg Philanthropies
Bob Clausen
Boycott All Things Trump
Bread for the World
Campaign for America's Future
Center for Reproductive Rights
Cheers Liquor and Wine Shoppe
Circa
CJS Graphic Creations
Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB)
Consumers Union
Council for a Livable World
Daily Kos
Debra Danley Music Instruction
Democracy Today
Democratic Hub
Democrats
Drone Magazine
Drug Policy Alliance
Elizabeth Warren
EMILY's List
Enact the Consumer Financial Protection Agency!
Environmental Action
Environmental Defense Fund
Everytown for Gun Safety
Feminist Majority Foundation
Fight Trump
Fire The Tea Party
Fitbit
Fix the Court
FWD NOW
FWD.us
Gone Left
Good Shepherd Home Care
Great Job Barack!
Greenpeace USA
Harry's
HealthCare.gov
Heart City Health
Human Rights Campaign
If You Only News
Impeach Trump
In Democrats We Trust
Inkjetcartridge.com
International Fund for Animal Welfare - IFAW
It Gets Worse -- The 2012 Republican Contest: Who is worst for America?
Joe's Italian Grill
Just For Men
Just For Men
Just Label It
Justice Writers
Kevin McCarthy
Lahela
Latest.com
Left Action
LGBTIQs Against Islamophobia and Hatred of Muslims
Liberal American
Liberal Progressive Democrats
Liberal Speak
Love Style
Madam President
Mark Lutchman
Michael L. Berry Home Inspections LLC
Mother Jones
MoveOn.org
NARAL Pro-Choice America
National Association for Gun Rights
National Gun Victims Action Council - "A Force for Sane Gun Laws"
National Partnership for Women & Families
National Women's Law Center
Neil deGrasse Tyson
Newsmax
NextGen America
Nina Turner
Not My President
O W V Media
Occupy Democrats
Oceana
Off The Main Page
One Wisconsin Now
Opposing Views
Opposition Report
People For the American Way
People, like Bernie Sanders, electing candidates, like Bernie Sanders
People's Action
PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals)
Petition: End Too Big To Fail!
PETITION: Tell Speaker Boehner:Stop China from killing US manufacturing jobs
Policulous
Political Dig
President Bill Clinton
Pro Choice
Progress Tribune
Progressive Day
Progressive Liberal
Progressives for Our Revolution
Proud Democrat
Proud Democrats
Proud Liberal
Proud Liberal Americans
Proud Liberals
Proud To Be A Democrat
Rare Media
Raw Progressive
Reverb Press
Robert Reich
Rubicon Training Group
Run Bernie Run
Run Warren Run
Sandra Fluke
Sanity News
Save Main St
Senator Harry Reid
Shareblue Media
Shot@Life
Sierra.Rise
Signature Weddings
Social Security Works
Speak out now to protect the Arctic Refuge
State Rep. Brian M. Ohler
Stories That Resonate
Taunt The Elephant
Tell Barack: I Support Obamacare
Tell the FDA: Crushed beavers are not a "natural flavoring"
Thank You Obama
The Blue Wave
The Daily Caller
The Jjolly Llama
The Nation Magazine
The Obama White House
The Other 98%
The Rachel Maddow Show
The White House
Trump 101
Truth Examiner
U.S. PIRG
U.S. Senator Al Franken
U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders
U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren
VoteVets.org
Waldrop Range LLC
We Are Liberal
William J. Clinton Presidential Library
Women's Health Resources
Write to Congress: Don't Cut Hope and Opportunity for Hungry People


Not the guy apparently.

tomwaterford

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Do we have an official confirmation of her identity?

You might be right and it might be them, but after everything that happened in the aftermath of the Boston Bombing then we need to have due diligence.

She appeared on sky news with a photo

4ft11 in height....an ould wan

Lougarden

There is another completely different male name being spread about on social media. Considering only one male suspect, that is terrible because one most likely incorrect identity being linked to attack

pjohnson

elefant wrote: »

One of the groups liked on that page is the National Gun Victims Action Council.

The whole incident sounds horrendous, and I feel a level of self-loathing for even feeling a modicum of hope that it is/isn't something connected to one thing or the other. Senseless suffering.

This is the amusing part of American gun politics. I mean he supports "gun victims" and "thanks obama" yet loopers like him are only able to get the guns they use BECAUSE of Trump and his ilk. The "beliefs" they have are almost always complete opposites.

vicwatson

Right ok now, no one gives a flying ****e if he's left, right, middle, black, white, muslim, christian or anything else - he's simply a murdering c**t

Beefy78

National Association for Gun Rights
National Gun Victims Action Council - "A Force for Sane Gun Laws"

WTF?

VinLieger

Well this threads turned into the usual reactionary blame game chinese whispers sh1tshow that these breaking news after hours threads always end up turning into. The confirmation bias of the posts claiming what his motives were are really astounding.

Consider the shoe was on the other foot and if his facebook profile had been full of trump and republican pages, everyone on here rabidly feeding on the glory of him being a "leftist" and the twisted idea that this is some kind of "win" for their side of the political sphere, you would likely be claiming his profile was faked and it was some kind of conspiracy. I know you will deny it but deep down you know its true. People died tonight but all everyone is concerned about is which side is ahead of the other.

Anyway im out of this death celebratory circle jerk.

Outlaw Pete

silverharp wrote: »

here is FB of people he follows, seems like a similar character to the guy that shot the Republican politicians

Might be best to remove that FB link just in case it's not him.

That's why I screencapped with no name showing.

vicwatson

vicwatson wrote: »

Right ok now, no one gives a flying ****e if he's left, right, middle, black, white, muslim, christian or anything else - he's simply a murdering c**t

A few pages ago, he was a Muslim terrorist. Then he was an alt-right Trumpeteer. Then the possibility of him being a Republican who hated Trump was thanked many times.
Now, he's a loonie from the left and it's irrelevant.

And while he is a murdering c**t, he's a domestic terrorist and should be called that.

MOH

Deleted User wrote: »

I used some JS to get the list.
....
PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals)
....

Ah, those nut jobs. Sure that explains it all.
/s

Grayson

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Jesus Christ.

I said "going by his FB posts" and "going by" means 'appears' ffs!!

And again, I was talking about that particular guy, not every single person on the planet who is anti-Trump.

The point is, what does it matter? Are you saying that that was his motivation.

wakka12

vicwatson wrote: »

Right ok now, no one gives a flying ****e if he's left, right, middle, black, white, muslim, christian or anything else - he's simply a murdering c**t

Why somebody decided to murder dozens of people is important to know.

dilallio

511 wrote: »

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Deleted User wrote: »

Do we have an official confirmation of his identity though?

+1
One of the many Facebook groups followed by this individual is 'National Gun Victims Action Council - A Force for Sane Gun Laws'

Outlaw Pete

Grayson wrote: »

The point is, what does it matter? Are you saying that that was his motivation.

Oh ffs. Give it a rest. When that right wing nut drove a car into the crowd were you whinging about him being called out as such? I bet you weren't.

Anyway, for what it's worth. ABC have just confirmed that the shooter was a 64-year-old white male. Not sure if that tallys with who this is rumoured to be:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/las-vegas-shooting-gunman-identified-police-white-male-mandalay-bay-casino-strip-a7978241.html?amp

Grayson

That guy lives in Arkansas. The shooter was a local.

For Forks Sake

To note, the FB profile being posted over the last few pages is NOT the person the Police have named: Las Vegas shooting suspect is 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, @PeteWilliamsNBC reports