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2018 NFL Draft

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    phatkev wrote: »
    Cant wait for the months of mock drafts getting my hopes up!

    You mean you haven't been doing the mock drafts already...
    I've paid my $10 to Fanspeak... and doing them since the end of college football season!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    brinty wrote: »
    You mean you haven't been doing the mock drafts already...
    I've paid my $10 to Fanspeak... and doing them since the end of college football season!!!

    ah thats only tormenting yourself, makes the offseason seem even longer for me! No mock drafts for me until free agency is underway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Matt Miller has his first mock out.

    Darnold going to the Browns at #1, Rosen to the Giants at #2, Barkley to the Browns at #4, Allen to the Broncos at #5 and Mayfield to the Dolphins at #11.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2757373-2018-nfl-mock-draft-matt-millers-post-super-bowl-predictions?share=twitter


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Paully D wrote: »
    Matt Miller has his first mock out.

    Darnold going to the Browns at #1, Rosen to the Giants at #2, Barkley to the Browns at #4, Allen to the Broncos at #5 and Mayfield to the Dolphins at #11.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2757373-2018-nfl-mock-draft-matt-millers-post-super-bowl-predictions?share=twitter

    Went to check, and surely enough... "He's well under the league's threshold for height at the position—traditionally 6'2" to Mayfield's 6'0 ⅜"—"

    Sweet f***ing Jesus they'll never learn.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Went to check, and surely enough... "He's well under the league's threshold for height at the position—traditionally 6'2" to Mayfield's 6'0 ⅜"—"

    Sweet f***ing Jesus they'll never learn.

    Checked his Dallas picks and says the same re Maurice Hurst being undersized....

    some guys you just have to laugh at...

    #clueless


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,328 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    I don't think he's clueless I think he's one of the better draft analysts out there. Very easy to throw around hashtags like that based on one word.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭tripperman


    Baker Mayfields height is not important, to me he reminds of Drew Brees with the potential to make big play's with his arm and extend them if needed,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,365 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    That's a lazy analysis. If you are going to say he reminds you of Drew Brees then go through
    the reasons, besides height, that make him similar to Brees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭tripperman


    eagle eye wrote: »
    That's a lazy analysis. If you are going to say he reminds you of Drew Brees then go through
    the reasons, besides height, that make him similar to Brees.

    It's not an analysis it's just an opinion, I haven't done enough watching on him just yet to give an exact list, but his ability to climb the pocket make reads and deliver the ball under pressure are some of the best I've seen in a few years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    So many analysts just give an Alabama player to the Ravens in the first, any ‘Bama player will do

    I’m sure they think it’s clever insight but it’s a bit lazy imo and if they checked the records Ozzie Newsome took an Alabama 1st round pick just twice in 21 years


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Gally79


    Bills fan here. Seems a lot of teams inclusive my Bills are in the hunt for the next Bo Callahan.

    We have pick 21 and 22 in the first round therefore quite possible we’ll have to get a new QB through FA.....Cousins comes to mind.

    I’d rather spend the picks on a good LB and DT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    https://twitter.com/CoachBillick/status/817880898859368449

    This is exactly what seems to be happening with Josh Allen now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    Comp picks out
    Sounds like cowboys and bengals are biggest winners from it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Gally79


    The Browns will draft Darnold( he is the best and most complete QB out there ) Giants will go for Rosen. Baker Mayfield might be the new Bo Callaghan. Jets might be desperate enough to pick him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,642 ✭✭✭Deco99


    Finding it hard to pick where Barkley goes. Browns could take him 1 and take QB at 4, more likely they go QB1. Are giants going QB? they could do with a top RB. Will the Colts take him or pass or trade out of 3 spot to QB needy team. I doubt he drops passed Browns again at 4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,365 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I'd say the Giants need to improve the OL before they go after a running back. They might already have the answer at RB if they can get people to create a bit of room.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Gally79


    My top 6 picks

    Browns will pick Darnold with their first pick. He’s a prototype QB , strong , great arm, a Big Ben type of QB

    Giants will pick Rosen and let him sit behind Manning for a year. Shurmur is an offensive genius.

    Colts need a RB , Barkley comes to mind. He is plug and play . He’ll be one of the top rookies next season.

    Browns 4th pick will be Minkah Fitzpatrick, Safety for Alabama. He is outstanding a typical Saban type of player.

    Denver , by then will most likely have signed Cousins, will go for a WR, probably Ridley

    Jets with their 6th will go for a QB I reckon it will be Josh Allen.

    I also predict that Baker Mayfield might end up with Arizona.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Gally79 wrote: »
    My top 6 picks

    I'd be astonished if Bradley Chubb is still on the board after the first 6 picks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭letowski


    Paully D wrote: »
    I'd be astonished if Bradley Chubb is still on the board after the first 6 picks.

    I think the Colts will take him to be honest. As special as Barkley is, we have hardly any playmakers on defense. And its a bad defense. Getting quality pass rushers is always a premium in this league, while this is another decent year for depth at running back in the mid rounds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Gally79


    Paully D wrote: »
    I'd be astonished if Bradley Chubb is still on the board after the first 6 picks.

    Agreed - Could end up with the Jets as 6th overall


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000917558/article/mayock-compares-josh-allens-arm-to-jamarcus-russell

    Mike Mayock declares himself 'on' the Josh Allen bandwagon. Why? Literally because he has an arm as big as Jamarcus Russell's. Oh, and he's "exactly like Carson Wentz" - except 10% less accurate and unlike Wentz who his the ground running in the NFL, Allen (Mayock's words here) needs to be "rebuilt from the ground up".

    You simply cannot teach this kind of stupid. Amazingly though, Mayock will be the first to predict (right before the pick) any QBs taken before Allen.

    Seriously, how the f*** is this guy in a job all these years?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭Ohmeha


    Allen may well become the new JaMarcus, not for good reasons obviously


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Ohmeha wrote: »
    Allen may well become the new JaMarcus, not for good reasons obviously

    But but but, he's within that three inch windows that all QBs have to be, well apart from multiple current Hall of Famers like Brees, Rodgers and Wilson.

    And he can throw the ball to hit the crossbar from the halway line on his knees... nobody has been able to do that since the one man wonder that was Kyle Boller.

    And his arm is as big as Jamarcus F'ing Russell!!

    ---

    Full disclaimer again, I get to watch almost no NCAA football so can't comment on him as a player. But almost every year this talk comes up about someone and it's nauseating, this year with Allen is one of the worst in that sense in a while. Do these draft analysts and such have a contractual obligation to undergo that Men in Black 'memory erasing' treatment every January, or do they just go with the cheaper option and slam themselves over the head with bricks for a few hours after the bells drop on New Years?

    These measurables can be important of course, but the fetishisation of them among some (usually the same people every year) is just pathetic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    A few years ago in the soccer forum, we started a transfer rumour about some random North Korean footballer and within a few days the likes of the Daily Mail were reporting on him being linked to Newcastle. :pac:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2155866/Transfer-latest-Luiz-Adriano-Tottenham-Liverpool-eye-Victor-Moses-Newcastle-target-Jong-Il-Gwan.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

    Newcastle rewarded scout Graham Carr with a new eight-year contract today and he continues to have that knack of finding talent. One of the latest targets of his attention is North Korea international striker Jong Il-Gwan. The 19-year-old has been linked with PSV Eindhoven and Partizan Belgrade but Newcastle have been keeping an eye on him since his hat-trick for North Korea in the Asian Youth Championship against Australia in 2010. Alan Pardew wants to build up his squad and will invest around £10m on second string players who can step up. The added bonus would be the commercial revenue a player such as Il-Gwan could generate.


    That resulted from a completely made up rumour by a few of us in a soccer forum group. :pac:

    Such is the groupthink with the NFL Draft, I genuinely think, with enough traction, we could take a random guy who’s pegged to go in the late rounds or undrafted, and have him talked into the first or second round come draft time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    Paully D wrote: »
    A few years ago in the soccer forum, we started a transfer rumour about some random North Korean footballer and within a few days the likes of the Daily Mail were reporting on him being linked to Newcastle. :pac:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2155866/Transfer-latest-Luiz-Adriano-Tottenham-Liverpool-eye-Victor-Moses-Newcastle-target-Jong-Il-Gwan.html?ito=feeds-newsxml



    That resulted from a completely made up rumour by a few of us in a soccer forum group. :pac:

    Such is the groupthink with the NFL Draft, I genuinely think, with enough traction, we could take a random guy who’s pegged to go in the late rounds or undrafted, and have him talked into the first or second round come draft time.


    Oh i like that thinking Paully....
    whomever could we come up with.. should be someone from a small school background..
    Hows about CB Chandon Sullivan out of Georgia State... currently 270 on the Draftplex board on Fanspeak site....

    couldn't see anyone from Willian and Mary or Wake forest type smaller schools to consider..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    Paully D wrote: »
    A few years ago in the soccer forum, we started a transfer rumour about some random North Korean footballer and within a few days the likes of the Daily Mail were reporting on him being linked to Newcastle. :pac:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2155866/Transfer-latest-Luiz-Adriano-Tottenham-Liverpool-eye-Victor-Moses-Newcastle-target-Jong-Il-Gwan.html?ito=feeds-newsxml



    That resulted from a completely made up rumour by a few of us in a soccer forum group. :pac:

    Such is the groupthink with the NFL Draft, I genuinely think, with enough traction, we could take a random guy who’s pegged to go in the late rounds or undrafted, and have him talked into the first or second round come draft time.

    Right lads, c'mon lets get this started...
    and out there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    https://twitter.com/eric_edholm/status/969288452649963520?s=21

    Good start.

    At least he’s honest I suppose. :pac:




  • Wouldn't make a difference to me to be honest


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭letowski




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