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FUT 18 mass trading list
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05-10-2017 12:44pm#1
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Can someone explain to me like I'm five how the IF trading works - I think you've had success with that Lord TSC? I see that people make a lot of profit from it but I'm not sure how it works.
Had a tonne of success with it in 15 and 16. Not so much in 17 where it was very slow, but it's working well so far in 18. I had 100k after buying the packs at the start of the game, and I worked out today that if everything sells for the price I'm after, I'll be up to 1m coins
I'll do a quick run down on IF trading because it actually benefits me if more people are doing it, since that drives up prices once the cards go out of packs.
The idea of IF trading is basically the same as most others, except it requires a higher amount of coins starting off. Buy loads of a single card, jack up the price, and mass list over and over. You're preying on lazy people who don't check for the cheapest prices, but just grab what they think are the right price. If you've got 15 of a card on the market, and someone just checks a page that happens to have 10 of your card, they won't check further and just think it's the going price.
So, in Week 1, I grabbed 20 IF Jaoquins at 10k each. The joys of paying 10k for an IF is they discard for 9900 coins. So if the card doesn't sell, quick sell it to get all your coins back instantly. And 10k is the absolutely minimum price they can sell for as its the lowest BIN price. So "Discard IFs" are practically foolproof.
I listed them all up at 17-19k, and so far have 18 of the 20 sold, basically turning my initial investment of 200k into about 360k, which I've invested into other IF cards. That 10k => 17k is what I aim for in most of my sales.
Its not necessarily about waiting for the cards value to rise naturally, though thats an added bonus if it does (I've got about 2 dozen cards bought for 10k that I could sell now for 13-14k instantly cause their prices have risen since they've left packs). Its about taking advantage (and I know that sounds sleezey) of lazy people. You flood the market with your cards, and the more you have, the better. You want around 10 of a card, minimum, to make the method work. If one sells, you can replace it cheap and keep stock levels up.
It doesn't work with every card. I try to stick to either attackers or high rated players. IF Jaoquin was a Spanish League winger, and being in TOTW 1, was one of the best attackers from the league. I avoid utterly any players from lower leagues (there's a reason players from the German 2nd Division or Japanese leagues go for discard; no one wants them). Sometimes, I'll try players like IF Lochia, cause his stats make him a super sub, but rule of thumb is Attackers from Good Leagues.
You can go with high overall ratings too; I've got a few Valbuenas and Brahimi cards that I got for 10k. They are both 84 rated, so if an SBC comes out that needs high rated IFs, they will instantly jump to round 30k each. But I've still sold some of both already at 20k.
Final thing...I'm relisting my cards 10 times a day. I have the app on my phone so once an hour, I click on and hit "relist all". You might get 0 sales a day, you might get 10. Its hit and miss, but requires way less attention than other methods. The hopes is that one sale might net you 7000 coins, but you have to decide do you want that one sale for 7000 coins or 20 sales of lower margin cards for the same amount. This is so important cause some people try trading for 2 or 3 cycles and then give up. To get the big coinage, you need to be renewing your listings hourly.0 -
Had a tonne of success with it in 15 and 16. Not so much in 17 where it was very slow, but it's working well so far in 18. I had 100k after buying the packs at the start of the game, and I worked out today that if everything sells for the price I'm after, I'll be up to 1m coins I'll do a quick run down on IF trading because it actually benefits me if more people are doing it, since that drives up prices once the cards go out of packs.
The idea of IF trading is basically the same as most others, except it requires a higher amount of coins starting off. Buy loads of a single card, jack up the price, and mass list over and over. You're preying on lazy people who don't check for the cheapest prices, but just grab what they think are the right price. If you've got 15 of a card on the market, and someone just checks a page that happens to have 10 of your card, they won't check further and just think it's the going price.
So, in Week 1, I grabbed 20 IF Jaoquins at 10k each. The joys of paying 10k for an IF is they discard for 9900 coins. So if the card doesn't sell, quick sell it to get all your coins back instantly. And 10k is the absolutely minimum price they can sell for as its the lowest BIN price. So "Discard IFs" are practically foolproof.
I listed them all up at 17-19k, and so far have 18 of the 20 sold, basically turning my initial investment of 200k into about 360k, which I've invested into other IF cards. That 10k => 17k is what I aim for in most of my sales.
Its not necessarily about waiting for the cards value to rise naturally, though thats an added bonus if it does (I've got about 2 dozen cards bought for 10k that I could sell now for 13-14k instantly cause their prices have risen since they've left packs). Its about taking advantage (and I know that sounds sleezey) of lazy people. You flood the market with your cards, and the more you have, the better. You want around 10 of a card, minimum, to make the method work. If one sells, you can replace it cheap and keep stock levels up.
It doesn't work with every card. I try to stick to either attackers or high rated players. IF Jaoquin was a Spanish League winger, and being in TOTW 1, was one of the best attackers from the league. I avoid utterly any players from lower leagues (there's a reason players from the German 2nd Division or Japanese leagues go for discard; no one wants them). Sometimes, I'll try players like IF Lochia, cause his stats make him a super sub, but rule of thumb is Attackers from Good Leagues.
You can go with high overall ratings too; I've got a few Valbuenas and Brahimi cards that I got for 10k. They are both 84 rated, so if an SBC comes out that needs high rated IFs, they will instantly jump to round 30k each. But I've still sold some of both already at 20k.
Final thing...I'm relisting my cards 10 times a day. I have the app on my phone so once an hour, I click on and hit "relist all". You might get 0 sales a day, you might get 10. Its hit and miss, but requires way less attention than other methods. The hopes is that one sale might net you 7000 coins, but you have to decide do you want that one sale for 7000 coins or 20 sales of lower margin cards for the same amount. This is so important cause some people try trading for 2 or 3 cycles and then give up. To get the big coinage, you need to be renewing your listings hourly.
Basically the exact same way I trade with lower cards, might try this out this year if I get a few coins.. won't be buying points or packs this year so gotta do it the slow way
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Basically the exact same way I trade with lower cards, might try this out this year if I get a few coins.. won't be buying points or packs this year so gotta do it the slow way
Yeah, same theory, the only real difference is e cards leave packs in this method. With lower cards, they are always in packs so their values will decrease instead of increase, like IFs
Of course, IFs can drop in value if a second IF comes out....but that's when the fun begins cause you just list the IFs up at the same price as the 2IF and trick people that way :pac:0 -
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