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Harvey Weinstein scandal (Mod warning in op.)

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    blinding wrote: »
    £ 125 ,000 + 20 years inflation isn’t that light .

    There are many different types of women in the world , Thank God . . Yes many would be deeply effected by Harvey Weinstein horrible carry on .

    Some women perhaps not that many would probably start laughing at Weinstein trying his nasty stuff and tell him where to go good and proper .

    Some them would accept £125 ,000 thousand + 20 years inflation thinking what a pathetic plonker and Bank the cash .

    Not all women are the same and some , fortunately would be well able for horrible Harvey Weinstein .

    They wouldn't be laughing for long - he's a very large man who was apparently willing and able to overpower and pin down anyone smaller and less strong than himself.

    Do you find that sort of thing funny?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    B0jangles wrote: »
    They wouldn't be laughing for long - he's a very large man who was apparently willing and able to overpower and pin down anyone smaller and less strong than himself.

    Do you find that sort of thing funny?
    Do you think that there was no women willing or able to tell Harvey Weinstein to go take a running jump . I suggest you underestimate some women .

    Harvey was / is a fat slow lump of lard .

    I make no apologies for Harvey Weinstein’s horrible behaviour but the world can be a more complex place than everyone just fell under horrible Harveys horrible ways .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    blinding wrote: »
    Do you think that there was no women willing or able to tell Harvey Weinstein to go take a running jump

    Loads of them effectively told him to take a run and jump and not all of them took money either.

    Ashley Judd for example (feminist extraordinaire) left/escaped the room telling Harvey that if he wanted to touch her, she'd first have to win an Oscar in one of his movies.

    She was joking, of course........................... allegedly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,365 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Loads of them effectively told him to take a run and jump and not all of them took money either.

    Ashley Judd for example (feminist extraordinaire) left/escaped the room telling Harvey that if he wanted to touch her, she'd first have to win an Oscar in one of his movies.

    She was joking, of course........................... allegedly.

    She also survived sexual abuse as a child. So I think she knew the predatory signs-ugly as it is to say,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Well, allegedly given no charges have even been brought and apparently some members of her own (gun touting) family don't believe her. None of which mean it didn't happen of course, but there you are. I remember when she came out with that and it was first about some old guy who tried to stick his tongue down her throat and she ran off (that I believed) but then as the years progressed it became about repressed incest memories (which is a red flag given what Rosanne Barr went through and indeed many a miscarriage of justice was based on) but in saying that, if she says it happened, so be it.

    Have to say though, she undermines herself quite a bit when she talks about being raped as a child as not being as bad as Trump getting elected.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,365 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Judd's Ted Talk is also one of the few Ted talks where comments are disabled.
    She rants on feminism, so hence why.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Today another woman has come forward publicly to accuse Weinstein of forcing himself on her. Allegedly she declined his previous advances, but he cornered her and she tried to fend him off by saying she was having her period, which she was. So oul Harvey allegedly pulled her "feminine hygiene product" out and went down on her. Jesus. Personally I have no issue believing her. That level of embarrassing detail strongly suggests she's not fibbing IMHO.

    And now more of his former assistants are speaking out about the background machinations of lawyers and the company to keep this serial pervert from justice.

    And yet he remains free. How many women and ongoing police cases in at least two countries does it take to arrest this guy? That's what beggars belief for me. If this guy was a office worker no way would he be sitting in some "therapy centre".

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Have to say though, she undermines herself quite a bit when she talks about being raped as a child as not being as bad as Trump getting elected.
    Jesus. I had to watch that twice while checking my ears for wax and my brain for a more than usual brain melt before I believed what I was hearing(though I clicked stop as the Fox News talking heads talked).

    To compare one's rape as a child to any political result is a statement beyond insane. Then again the entertainer nature tends towards hysteria and histrionics, so that's 90% of that. Then being "triggered" and looking for "safe spaces". IE spaces where people agree with whatever nonsense you're spouting and believing(common across all of the spectrum of beliefs these days) . G'way to feck you pampered gilded cage multimillionaire notice box who only gets your platform because of fame. A fame by the by she would have been extremely unlikely to have gotten without her out of the ordinary attractiveness.

    Then again she and similar so called media "feminists" really dunno what to do with themselves anymore. Not when outside of a couple of areas women are in a better societal position and favour than men. They remind me of the dog chasing the tyres of cars driving by. If a car stops they don't know what to do and just bark pointlessly at the tyres. That's your media/online "feminist" for the most part. Endlessly barking at a stopped tyre, Imagining, hoping the car is still moving, so they still have a purpose. Harvey Wankerstein has been an eye opener, hopefully a real call for change and sadly for the above canids something to bark at.

    Now I do still hold to my previous position that fair play Ms Judd was the first to support McGowan and her story. Though more and more the above notice box angle seems to have been in play. I do wonder would she have been nearly so quick to support her if she was still in the system and more to the point, still bankable. Let's face it almost nobody who was/is still bankable was exactly quick with the support, reporting and condemnation. She didn't. Even when she happily admits it was something all the women she knew in the business discussed when they met and his name came up.

    Then again Kate Winslet - who is still bankable - in a recent interview was asked about why she chose to star in Woody Allen's - also still bankable - new film considering the accusations against him. Her reply? "It’s just a difficult discussion. I’d rather respectfully not enter it today. I don’t read how people respond to things. We’re always as actors going to say the wrong thing[fcuk me, the ego there]. I think it’s better to respectfully step away from the discussion". Respectfully? G'way to fcuk. Observe the cognitive dissonance at best, or the hypocrisy at worst. QV Streep and many others on Polanski, the on the run convicted child rapist. Hollyweird has never been more applicable. Or Harveywood, or Hypocrisywood.

    Caveat: this repellent crap is among the movers and shakers, the bigwigs, the ones who get to make the millions. The average person in the film business is just.. well an average person doing a job.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Today another woman has come forward publicly to accuse Weinstein of forcing himself on her. Allegedly she declined his previous advances, but he cornered her and she tried to fend him off by saying she was having her period, which she was. So oul Harvey allegedly pulled her "feminine hygiene product" out and went down on her. Jesus. Personally I have no issue believing her. That level of embarrassing detail strongly suggests she's not fibbing IMHO.

    And now more of his former assistants are speaking out about the background machinations of lawyers and the company to keep this serial pervert from justice.

    And yet he remains free. How many women and ongoing police cases in at least two countries does it take to arrest this guy? That's what beggars belief for me. If this guy was a office worker no way would he be sitting in some "therapy centre".
    Been wondering this myself. They could be waiting until they have taken all the statements before formally charging him?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Today another woman has come forward publicly to accuse Weinstein of forcing himself on her. Allegedly she declined his previous advances, but he cornered her and she tried to fend him off by saying she was having her period, which she was. So oul Harvey allegedly pulled her "feminine hygiene product" out and went down on her. Jesus. Personally I have no issue believing her. That level of embarrassing detail strongly suggests she's not fibbing IMHO.

    Yeah, seen that allegation reported earlier. From the clip below it seems it happened in one of his homes given that there were kid's drawings on the wall.



    Mimi Haleyi — who formerly worked as a production assistant on a Weinstein Company television series — is the latest woman to come forward with a sexual assault allegation against Harvey Weinstein, accusing the fallen mogul of forcing himself onto her in 2006, while she was on her period.

    Along with her attorney Gloria Allred, Haleyi disclosed, on Tuesday afternoon at a New York City press conference, extremely graphic details of her multiple interactions with Weinstein.

    Haleyi says she was first introduced to Weinstein at the European premiere of “The Aviator” in 2004. She was in her 20s, though she declined to reveal her exact age at the time. She later saw Weinstein, for the second time, at the Cannes Film Festival.

    “At that time, I was planning to spend some time in New York, so I asked Harvey if I could help on any of his productions there. He said why don’t you see me at my hotel and we’ll talk about it,” Haleyi shared. She agreed to meet Weinstein at his hotel, where she understood the Weinstein Company was set up for the festival. When she arrived, she was escorted up to his room by an assistant, who then left.

    “Harvey asked if I’d give him a massage. I said, ‘No sorry, I’m not a masseuse,’ and I suggested he contact hotel reception,” Haleyi recalled. “At that time, I was crying because I felt humiliated.”

    Despite the humiliating interaction at Cannes, Haleyi was hoping to form a business connection with Weinstein, since she was eager to break into the entertainment industry, so she agreed to meet up with him again in New York City when he said he’d help her secure a job on a television show, produced by the Weinstein Company.

    “He suggested we meet in the Mercer Hotel lobby for a chat. He was a complete gentleman and completely charming,” Haleyi said. A few days later, she saw him at TWC offices in Tribeca, where he wanted to meet with her to discuss her work on his television production, and then he offered to take her on an extravagant trip to Paris for a couture show. “I declined, as this seemed like an invitation of romantic nature,” she said. “He didn’t like that.”

    After Haleyi declined to go to Paris, she said Weinstein continued to send her messages and showed up at her apartment in NYC. She said he “literally forced himself in through the door, pleading to come to Paris.”

    “I said, ‘I’m not coming to Paris with you and I hear you have a terrible reputation with women.’ That’s when he backed off,” Haleyi said.

    When Weinstein returned from Paris, he reached out to Haleyi and asked her to meet him at his home in Soho. Again, she agreed because she “wanted to maintain a good relationship with him” for purely business purposes. Haleyi repeatedly said at the press conference she was not interested in a sexual or romantic relationship.

    When Weinstein’s driver picked her up, Haleyi says there was a copy of the New York Post in the car with a photo of Weinstein in Paris with his then-girlfriend and now-estranged wife, Georgina Chapman, which made her wonder if “he had strategically placed” it there to make her jealous that she did not agree to go on the trip. When she arrived at his home, she says they watched TV and it was not long before Weinstein started to make sexual advances and eventually forced himself onto her.

    “Then I said, ‘I am on my period. There is no way this is going to happen.’ He wouldn’t take no for an answer and took me into a bedroom … that looked like a kid’s bedroom with drawings on the wall,” Haleyi shared with reporters through audible tears. “He was extremely persistent and physically overpowering. He then orally forced himself on me, while I was on my period. He even pulled my tampon out. I was mortified. I was in disbelief and disgusted. I would not have wanted anyone to do that to me, even if that person had been a romantic partner.”

    “I remember Harvey rolling over and saying, ‘Don’t you feel like we’re so much closer now?’”

    Haleyi says she told a few friends at the time about the horrific experience, but she decided to come forward now in support of all the other women who have been subjected to sexual harassment or sexual assault.

    “Mr. Weinstein appears to have reached a new low in what he did,” Allred said. “[Mimi] said it was disgusting, and it is. No intimate or sexual activity should ever be performed on any woman who does not consent, and [Mimi] made it clear that there is no way she would have consented to that — with anyone, let alone, Mr. Weinstein.”

    Haleyi is the latest woman to speak up against Weinstein, who for the past 20 days, has been facing endless allegations of sexual harassment, assault, and rape, which Weinstein’s team has denied. The producer, who is currently in a rehab facility in Arizona, was forced out of and subsequently resigned from the board of The Weinstein Company. He has been suspended from the Academy, the Producers Guild, and BAFTA.

    Allred, known for fighting for women’s rights, is also representing former actress Heather Kerr, who just four days ago, accused Weinstein of sexually assaulting her back in 1989.

    Weinstein’s fall has set off a domino effect of exposing accused men in the entertainment industry, including director James Toback, who has had dozens of women speak out against him; photographer Terry Richardson, who was recently banned by Conde Nast after multiple women came forward with accusations; and celebrity chef John Besh, who stepped down from his restaurant group amid sexual harassment allegations.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Now I do still hold to my previous position that fair play Ms Judd was the first to support McGowan and her story. Though more and more the above notice box angle seems to have been in play. I do wonder would she have been nearly so quick to support her if she was still in the system and more to the point, still bankable. Let's face it almost nobody who was/is still bankable was exactly quick with the support, reporting and condemnation. She didn't. Even when she happily admits it was something all the women she knew in the business discussed when they met and his name came up.
    I guess that would depend on what you mean by bankable because while not in the lead role, she has been in films grossing over $1bn over the last four years (Divergent trilogy and Olympus Has Fallen) which I'd reckon she got paid decently for.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    True enough B.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Well, allegedly given no charges have even been brought and apparently some members of her own (gun touting) family don't believe her. None of which mean it didn't happen of course, but there you are. I remember when she came out with that and it was first about some old guy who tried to stick his tongue down her throat and she ran off (that I believed) but then as the years progressed it became about repressed incest memories (which is a red flag given what Rosanne Barr went through and indeed many a miscarriage of justice was based on) but in saying that, if she says it happened, so be it.

    Have to say though, she undermines herself quite a bit when she talks about being raped as a child as not being as bad as Trump getting elected.



    Wow. Being raped is possibly one of the most horrific things that can happen to anyone. To compare that then to the temporary election of someone you don't like is just so abhorrantly ignorant- she not only compared it but said it's worse!
    I get that she's been through a lot and so her musings may not be coming from a sound space but seriously what a fcuked up thing to say.
    "How dare someone say something I don't agree with in my vicinity". Get a grip woman.
    Sake.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    With every passing day more women are coming forward, each with the same story of Harvey's modus operandi; gets into a bathrobe, asks the woman for a massage, attempts or succeeds in oral sexual assault and sometimes full blown rape. How many women have to come forward before this guy is arrested?

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    Wibbs wrote: »
    With every passing day more women are coming forward, each with the same story of Harvey's modus operandi; gets into a bathrobe, asks the woman for a massage, attempts or succeeds in oral sexual assault and sometimes full blown rape. How many women have to come forward before this guy is arrested?

    It really demonstrates how overly deferential they are to powerful people. Even ones recently toppled from their plinth. My guess is that they are holding off to see if he's really fallen from grace before pressing charges. Kinda like hyenas circling but waiting until the injured prey is absolutely dead and no threat to them before getting closer.

    It also shows that even when someone's reputation is in utter tatters, when he's been exposed fully for what he is and his actions going back decades, the remnants of his untouchable persona are still lingering. At the height of his power he was no match for a starlet starting out.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    Looks like naming and shaming serious sexual offenders works. Dozens more women coming forward, effectively ending the careers of these producers who otherwise would continue to work in the industry.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    Neyite wrote: »
    Kinda like hyenas circling but waiting until the injured prey is absolutely dead and no threat to them before getting closer.

    .

    What a horrible description of the victims of a voracious sexual predator . Lovely , says it all about this thread though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    Wibbs wrote: »
    With every passing day more women are coming forward, each with the same story of Harvey's modus operandi; gets into a bathrobe, asks the woman for a massage, attempts or succeeds in oral sexual assault and sometimes full blown rape. How many women have to come forward before this guy is arrested?

    Good question. America with its 50 states is very fragmented in terms of justice. And law agencies also seem deferential to the likes of Weinstein who after all had political contacts and cover. He's hiding out in "therapy" but he should be in a police station being interviewed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 770 ✭✭✭abbir


    marienbad wrote: »
    What a horrible description of the victims of a voracious sexual predator . Lovely , says it all about this thread though.

    I think the hyenas was in reference to the authorities waiting to actually arrest him.


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    marienbad wrote: »
    What a horrible description of the victims of a voracious sexual predator . Lovely , says it all about this thread though.

    No... You can see I bolded Wibbs sentence about what it takes for HW to be arrested. My comment was in direct response to the (non) arrest.

    I'm talking about the LAPD. They are loath to press charges until they are sure HW is no threat whatsoever. Remember this is the guy that had District Attorenys in his pocket and got charges in New York dropped*. Nobody is going to go for an arrest when an ambitious attorney who wants to run for political office will get them fired. That's what I meant.

    *The DA that dropped the sexual assault charges against HW ran for political office and got a nice cash donation for his campaign off HW for his 'reward'


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    There's a difference between a sex addict who needs treatment and a violent criminal sexual predator like Weinstein who should be in court and/or jail. Its time he was dragged out of his treatment and made to answer for these allegations.

    If Weinstein was a black guy committing these crimes on the streets, he'd be locked up for life, no questions asked.

    Just one more way America is divided between rich and poor, those with political influence and those without.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,448 ✭✭✭evil_seed


    marienbad wrote: »
    What a horrible description of the victims of a voracious sexual predator . Lovely , says it all about this thread though.

    read it again, then jump to the correct conclusion


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    marienbad wrote: »
    What a horrible description of the victims of a voracious sexual predator . Lovely , says it all about this thread though.
    Eh no. 431493.gif Way to go picking up the wrong end of the stick because of your preconceptions though.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Good question. America with its 50 states is very fragmented in terms of justice. And law agencies also seem deferential to the likes of Weinstein who after all had political contacts and cover. He's hiding out in "therapy" but he should be in a police station being interviewed.
    If it was a one off incident, were there might have been a grey area, but my god the list of women reporting this grows by the day. If this guy doesn't get gaol time over his decades long stream of sexual abuse of dozens of women then I dunno what to think.

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  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I would really love, if one woman came forward and said :

    ' yeah, he tried it with me too, but I grabbed his balls and squeezed them till they bled and he passed out'.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭Zwillinge


    Jake1 wrote: »
    I would really love, if one woman came forward and said :

    ' yeah, he tried it with me too, but I grabbed his balls and squeezed them till they bled and he passed out'.

    I'll be honest, the moment I heard of all this I expected Angelina Jolie to come out and say that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 558 ✭✭✭Biggest lickspittle on boardz


    Former President George Bush Sr. is the latest to be accused of sexual assault. He has apologised for an incident that took place with actress Heather Lind.
    I have read some disturbing reports about previous allegations regarding Bush Senior, we will see if more people come forward on this:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5014447/Actress-alleges-George-H-W-Bush-sexually-assaulted-her.html




    Separately, I also saw this image floating about on the internet, it would be great if this gained momentum. The Hollywood SJW's would be falling over themselves to make excuses:

    this-statue-represents-pedophilia-rape-culture-misogyny-privilege-silence-it-28424885.png


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Are you comparing awards statues to the Civil War memorial statues that were largely erected years after the war and at times which coincided with the passing of explicitly racist laws and then later with the Civil rights movement in the 1960's?

    https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/897255950951866368

    dkRYlXr.jpg

    Are you really making that comparison?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,294 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Zwillinge wrote: »
    I'll be honest, the moment I heard of all this I expected Angelina Jolie to come out and say that.

    You have to consider the age most of the women were at, including Angelina Jolie, when he'd try it on with them, the level their careers were at and the level his career was at. From most of the women's stories, they tried to get out without causing any hassle or offence.

    He went after women at the start of their careers and when they were usually early-20's. The ones who got out usually did so by making excuses and politely leaving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,294 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Separately, I also saw this image floating about on the internet, it would be great if this gained momentum. The Hollywood SJW's would be falling over themselves to make excuses:

    Nonsense comparison


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  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    B0jangles wrote: »
    Are you comparing awards statues to the Civil War memorial statues that were largely erected years after the war and at times which coincided with the passing of explicitly racist laws and then later with the Civil rights movement in the 1960's?

    Are you really making that comparison?

    This thread is pulling out the really expensive crazy.

    Now we have awards statuettes being compared with pre civil rights era monuments.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Former President George Bush Sr. is the latest to be accused of sexual assault. He has apologised for an incident that took place with actress Heather Lind.
    I have read some disturbing reports about previous allegations regarding Bush Senior, we will see if more people come forward on this:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5014447/Actress-alleges-George-H-W-Bush-sexually-assaulted-her.html




    Separately, I also saw this image floating about on the internet, it would be great if this gained momentum. The Hollywood SJW's would be falling over themselves to make excuses:

    this-statue-represents-pedophilia-rape-culture-misogyny-privilege-silence-it-28424885.png

    Did the oscar crowd not kick this lad out??

    Tbh I dont really see the point of so many award ceremony etc anyways....but it deos seem alot of hoops to jump to,to arrive to the conclusion this lad has??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 558 ✭✭✭Biggest lickspittle on boardz


    B0jangles wrote: »
    Are you comparing awards statues to the Civil War memorial statues that were largely erected years after the war and at times which coincided with the passing of explicitly racist laws and then later with the Civil rights movement in the 1960's?

    https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/897255950951866368

    dkRYlXr.jpg

    Are you really making that comparison?

    No.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    No.

    Weird, you must have posted the wrong image so.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]




    The Hollywood SJW's would be falling over themselves to make excuses:

    Anytime anyone says SJW, the rest of the post immediately becomes this:



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 558 ✭✭✭Biggest lickspittle on boardz


    Penn wrote: »
    Nonsense comparison
    What comparison?
    Candie wrote: »
    This thread is pulling out the really expensive crazy.

    Now we have awards statuettes being compared with pre civil rights era monuments.

    You are the only person who has mentioned pre civil rights era monuments.
    Maybe he was referring to suggestions by Vice magazine to blow up Mount Rushmore.

    Yes, they actually wrote that before deleting the article online:

    11mk4sfvgcgz.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,829 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    Penn wrote: »
    You have to consider the age most of the women were at, including Angelina Jolie, when he'd try it on with them, the level their careers were at and the level his career was at. From most of the women's stories, they tried to get out without causing any hassle or offence.

    He went after women at the start of their careers and when they were usually early-20's. The ones who got out usually did so by making excuses and politely leaving.

    You write that as if he was some kind of wild predator to be feared who was out of control.
    He was very much in control of himself and didn't "go after" women.
    He manipulated them yes, took advantage of them, definitely but he didn't "go after them" resulting in some "getting out".
    There was nothing to get out of. He was manipulative and manipulated young women in to sexual situations.
    He went after women... ffs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    You write that as if he was some kind of wild predator to be feared who was out of control.
    He was very much in control of himself and didn't "go after" women.
    He manipulated them yes, took advantage of them, definitely but he didn't "go after them" resulting in some "getting out".
    There was nothing to get out of. He was manipulative and manipulated young women in to sexual situations.
    He went after women... ffs

    He chased women home. He tried to force them into his hotel room against their will. He forced himself on them without their consent. He is alleged to have raped several.

    In all respects he was a wild, violent sexual predator who gave women no choice. There was cases of manipulation and pressure to do as he asked, but there was also many cases of violent sexual assault where the women repeatedly said no to his advances.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,294 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    You write that as if he was some kind of wild predator to be feared who was out of control.
    He was very much in control of himself and didn't "go after" women.
    He manipulated them yes, took advantage of them, definitely but he didn't "go after them" resulting in some "getting out".
    There was nothing to get out of. He was manipulative and manipulated young women in to sexual situations.
    He went after women... ffs

    He manipulated them into situations under false pretenses. He had female staff bring the women to his hotel room to put them at ease that there's another woman there, under the guise of having a meeting to discuss film projects, then had her leave, meaning the actresses were now alone with him in his hotel room.

    Yes, he was very much in control of himself and the situation. But he did "go after them" in the sense that he chose, arranged and manipulated the women into these situations with him in order to coerce and pressure them into having sex with him. They did "get out" in the sense that they left despite his intense pressure and veiled threats (as is evident by the recorded tape of him pressuring the woman to come into the bathroom and watch him shower. Not exactly a "You don't want to watch me shower? Okay then, you may leave" situation).

    And of course, there are now numerous stories where women did not "get out" and were raped or assaulted.

    He did "go after" women. He may not have been prowling the streets at night in a hoodie and pulling them into bushes, but when he saw young actresses he liked or saw a chance to get them into his room and try to manipulate them into sex, he did so on numerous occasions.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    In fairness, the Oscars have a reputation for all those things. The representation of minorities in Oscar nominations is glaring. Its nearly always white men or white women up for virtually all nominations.
    But that is more representative of a wider problem in Hollywood.
    The Oscars are about Hollywood giving itself a pat on the back and saying everything is ok. The more Oscars the Weinstein company won, the more credibility he got and the more young women were forced to work with him. Clearly everything isn't ok and the Oscars are part of the rot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,294 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    What comparison?

    a) Comparing a statue given for awards in film-making to Confederate statues, and b) saying the Oscar statue represents peadophilia, rape culture etc. It doesn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 558 ✭✭✭Biggest lickspittle on boardz


    Corey Feldman has released a video announcing that he knows of at least 6 powerful paedophiles in Hollywood, and he is going to confront them. Feldman states that he needs funding to hire security for his family, and to hire powerful lawyers.
    He also plans to release a movie that isn't restricted by the Hollywood studios.




    His Indiegogo campaign can be viewed here:
    https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/corey-feldman-s-truth-campaign#/

    Good for him. You know what? I'm going to send him some money. I'm just one little guy in the grand scheme of things, but I'd like to see Feldman get some justice after everything that has happened to him. So maybe this might help the slow train of justice.

    The sad reality of our world is that you need to 'purchase' publicity, legal teams, and media placement in this world before anyone who listen.

    Maybe some of you should consider donating, if you want to try and make a difference. There's an awful lot of chatter on Facebook and Twitter, but very little in terms of actual action.


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    TBH I would have a lot of faith in Corey's campaign if he wasn't using it as a means to promote his album ...

    And he's looking for $10m. Ha.


  • Registered Users Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Funnyonion79


    I just donated there to it. Kind of an F You to all the paedophiles and creeps out there. He’s been getting serious hassle on twitter for not naming who raped Corey Haim so fair balls to him for at least attempting this. If it fails so be it but I admire him for trying - especially after all he’s been through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,365 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    What comparison?



    You are the only person who has mentioned pre civil rights era monuments.
    Maybe he was referring to suggestions by Vice magazine to blow up Mount Rushmore.

    Yes, they actually wrote that before deleting the article online:

    11mk4sfvgcgz.jpg

    Considering Mount Rushmore isn't a statue or has it been in the news recently with protests and counter protests I am not sure why you think the tweet was referring to that


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    I just donated there to it. Kind of an F You to all the paedophiles and creeps out there. He’s been getting serious hassle on twitter for not naming who raped Corey Haim so fair balls to him for at least attempting this. If it fails so be it but I admire him for trying - especially after all he’s been through.

    He could just do it, without asking for 10-f*ckin-million dollars to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,206 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Wouldn't give Corey a cent.
    10 million? My hole. And that "movie" he'd make too would be shopped around to the likes of Netflix etc.

    Paying a man to make money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭seenitall


    He could just do it, without asking for 10-f*ckin-million dollars to do it.

    Don't worry, you are not obligated to donate.

    There are a lot of very, very rich people milling around Hollywood and California, and rich people like nothing better than to feel all saintly and like they are doing something for the cause-du-jour. So the timing is right for him to get the lolly if he feels he needs it for this, and get it he will. All the best to him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    I'm going to the work Halloween party as Harvey Weinstein


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭tara73


    just donated too. think it's a great thing to actually do something and hopefully when he names the scumbag paedos the ring will be locked up for the rest of their lives and Hollywood could be knocked down and shut down too from my point of view. Wouldn't be much loss.

    It tells what an evil world we live in that they already haunt him and he has to fear for his live and that of his families, friends, co workers. Horrible scum out there.

    Hope all the outraged guys here with their endless posts will donate too... But I'm guessing it's getting quiet from them or all kind of excuses will float in.

    and for all who didn't get it: the 10 million is just the target set online, it doesn't has to be achieved! There were donations around 14.000$ around an hour ago, so whatever will be achieved is helping I guess.
    I guess he also needs a lot of money for the court battle and what else it all involves to bring the paedo ring down!


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