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Harvey Weinstein scandal (Mod warning in op.)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    doylefe wrote: »
    Bit annoying to have someone like Louis CK being ostracized by distributors and production companies due to some allegations. I am being denied access to his content due to the trending outrage. I couldn't care less what he's done, I'll still watch his shows.

    'Nothing wrong with being a pervert. I'm a pervert. You're a pervert. Everybody is a pervert.'

    Very 'funny' guy. What is there not to love? :rolleyes:


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    if you've read army of spies by the new yorker, I'd venture to say, check Corey Haims mothers bank balance in a few months. In terms of damage control, who best for sheen to get a good reference from but the victims mother. It's happened in the past where parents have jacked in work and lived off their kids earnings, cars, holidays mansions etc, all while the kid is being pimped out. many have been emancipated from same parents as a last ditch way to keep their own earnings and prevent exploitation, remember we're talking about kids too. you gotta ask what kind of person you're dealing with. where was she when robert downey Jr took a young teenege haim to live with him for a spell?? why not home to mrs Haim????? yeah she' close to em alright!!

    sheen is loaded and what's $2 million to haims mother if she'll vouch it certainly wasn't him. If she knows it definitely wasn't, she must know who it definitely was??? otherwise she's as reliable as sheen. aparently the dogs on the street knew it was him as much as same said dogs new weinstien raped mcgowan...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,994 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    statement from louis ck https://twitter.com/ditzkoff/status/929050106246115329

    says he always asked before he took his dick out in front of women but from the NYT article it doesn't sound like he waited for an answer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    statement from louis ck

    says he always asked before he took his dick out in front of women but from the NYT article it doens't sound like he waited for an answer.

    What a narcissist. He mentions how "admired" he was three times in a short statement.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    what pisses me off is how the likes of SNL comediens like Tina Few can make a career out of mocking bill cosby and sarah palin (and rightly so).

    As soon as it hits home, well gosh darn it we're all out of ideas.
    Has anyone read jessica chastains view on it??what a lady..
    I was happy before I was an actress and if I was blanked in the morning, I'd be fine with that!! class act. she's gone after brian singer as well and good for her.

    I'll bet someone outside the USA will be getting a call come charade/award season.. hopefully it's ricky gervais :)


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    strandroad wrote: »
    What a narcissist. He mentions how "admired" he was three times in a short statement.

    bang on you're right too also "It’s a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly"

    dya think he worded that a certain way ?? trying to be clever?? it was a PRE DICK ament??? wouldn't surprise me at all!!!!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭HandsomeBob


    rusty cole wrote: »
    if you've read army of spies by the new yorker, I'd venture to say, check Corey Haims mothers bank balance in a few months. In terms of damage control, who best for sheen to get a good reference from but the victims mother. It's happened in the past where parents have jacked in work and lived off their kids earnings, cars, holidays mansions etc, all while the kid is being pimped out. many have been emancipated from same parents as a last ditch way to keep their own earnings and prevent exploitation, remember we're talking about kids too. you gotta ask what kind of person you're dealing with. where was she when robert downey Jr took a young teenege haim to live with him for a spell?? why not home to mrs Haim????? yeah she' close to em alright!!

    sheen is loaded and what's $2 million to haims mother if she'll vouch it certainly wasn't him. If she knows it definitely wasn't, she must know who it definitely was??? otherwise she's as reliable as sheen. aparently the dogs on the street knew it was him as much as same said dogs new weinstien raped mcgowan...

    Yeah...this is basically my thinking. My attitude towards this woman is dubious as is given her blatant lack of care for her son when he was a child and at his most vulnerable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    Looks like Haim's mother has torpedoed the accusations against Charlie Sheen.

    Obviously she knew her son best but I'd question, regardless of how open her son was with her, the assumption that he would have disclosed a deeply traumatising and confusing period of his life to her.

    There seems to be such a consistent level of corroboration coming out of the set of the film in question that it's criminal that Sheen is protected from even being questioned due to the statute of limitations.

    I saw an interview with Corey Haim's mother about one year after he died. They had a very close relationship. She was undergoing chemotherapy
    when he died and he was taking care of her. What struck me as rather strange was when the interviewer asked her if she wished anything in the
    past could have been done differently, she said no, that 'I would not be the person I am today' without her past - or something to that effect. My
    eyes popped out of my head when she said this! :eek: Her son was dead!! And she would not have changed anything??? :mad: Perhaps it was
    guilt because she seems to have facilitated Corey's career - the family left Canada to move to Hollywood. Corey's sister returned to Canada as
    she was not happy in Hollywood. The parents eventually separated, but it was the father who had always seemed to have been more concerned
    with the affect of the marriage break-up on the children. She does not like Corey Feldman and wishes he would stay quiet. One wonders why she
    seems to be in such a state of denial. Perhaps it would be too difficult to face the truth. My sympathy for her would be limited, because of her
    saying that she would not have done anything differently prior to her son's death!! :mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    Neyite wrote: »
    Thing is, that you have to take family dynamics into account. People in these cases usually ask where the parents were, why they let their child go to parties unsupervised, and given that they were 'in' the industry, must have heard rumours swirling about the powerful people and the things that they were rumoured to do. But, some parents - not necessarily Haim's - were content to turn a blind eye as long as the money rolled in. Or they were groomed as well.

    Child abusers are usually people close to the family. Sometimes the parent's are fully aware and even actively facilitating it. Some don't want to rock the boat when their child does disclose because they like the lifestyle or social standing they have and don't want to lose it.

    Children who were protected are the ones like Elijah Wood, who's parents never let him attend orgies adult parties alone. Then you have the Lindsey Lohans, Corey Haims, and Drew Barrymores who were allowed to have an adult lifestyle before even puberty.

    To be honest, I'd take what Mrs. Haim says with a big pinch of salt. There is too much corroboration of her son's abuse from other sources. Too many people have similar stories to Haim's about the same people who abused him. Of course she's going to deny that her son was passed around to paedophiles, and that there was basically unlimited and unsupervised access to the child and that the whole of Hollywood, including every child predator, knew it. To say otherwise would raise serious questions about her duty as his guardian.

    +100

    One thing I read was about a party attended by Corey Haim when he was very young - his parents were also in attendance. Corey was not enjoying it and went outside where he was found crying by Sarah Jessica Parker and her then boyfriend, Robert Downey Jr. According to Parker, Downey brought Corey home with him and allowed him to live with him for months. How strange was that?
    Corey was only a child and it is well known that Downey had drug problems in his youth. Where were Corey's Mum and Dad during this time? Corey's Mum does not want much delving into her past behaviour re Corey's welfare.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    DaithiMa wrote: »
    Anyone that has any doubts about Corey Feldman's claims needs to watch 'An Open Secret'. The most disturbing thing about it is that most of the perpetrators have got away scot free and in some cases are STILL working on kids TV shows/networks. The place is a cesspit.

    Some even went to jail and were able to resume working in the industry after their release. :mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    anna080 wrote: »
    I'm just gonna ask it- how the fcuk would it be pleasurable to masterbate in front of women who are literally just standing there gawking at you? It's the bloody oddest thing. Surely something like that should either be done alone, or mutually beneficial. It sounds like the most awkward, least attractive thing ever.

    As women, we could never understand, Anna. :confused::eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,795 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    brooke 2 wrote: »
    Some even went to jail and were able to resume working in the industry after their release. :mad:
    A good example is Victor Salva who directed the Jeepers Creepers films. He molested a child and made kiddie porn. Unnerving stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,161 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Well the Stones had Wyman getting the leg an underage girl, one Mandy Smith, who he later married when she turned 18, however he was "seeing her" when she was 13 and according to her they had sex when she was 14 and he was nearly 50. Led Zeppelin had Jimmy Page, another who was sleeping with at least one underage 13/14 year old when he was in his late 20's. Took her with him on tour. David Bowie another in the mix. There's a long list of rockers sleeping with underage girls, but they seem to get away with it. A) because it happened years ago and scrutiny was generally lower and B) they come outa the gate as "depraved rockers, sex and drugs and rock n roll" so I suppose the hypocrisy factor isn't there to nearly the same degree as Hollywood types, who with a few exceptions have always peddled the wholesome, Right on, squeaky clean image.

    Yeah I realised as soon as I posted the above that Bill Wyman and Jimmy Page were already guilty. Never heard anything about Bowie, but also a fan of his so makes sense I guess.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    anna080 wrote: »
    I'm more talking about why someone would even do it in the first place, rather than the criminal side of it. It's the oddest thing.

    Can you understand how a guy would send dick pics over the phone to women they don't even know? Saw a clip from 'Salon Confidential'? where some girls were talking about Tinder (actually, I think it was on the LLS). They said they had to leave it because it was a dick pics fest! :eek::D Men have to know that women do not welcome these pictures, yet they send them. Why? It is a form of harassment. Anthony Weiner :D is now in jail because he sent pics of his ugly bits to young girls. In one, his baby son was on the bed beside him as he took the photo. :mad: How sick does one have to be to do that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    It's a power trip, I would guess. You're essentially showing that you have power over them. At least that's what all of this stuff seems to boil down to.

    Why did I think of 'willy waving' when I read this post? :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    brooke 2 wrote: »
    Can you understand how a guy would send dick pics over the phone to women they don't even know? Saw a clip from 'Salon Confidential'? where some girls were talking about Tinder (actually, I think it was on the LLS). They said they had to leave it because it was a dick pics fest! :eek::D Men have to know that women do not welcome these pictures, yet they send them. Why? It is a form of harassment. Anthony Weiner :D is now in jail because he sent pics of his ugly bits to young girls. In one, his baby son was on the bed beside him as he took the photo. :mad: How sick does one have to be to do that?

    It's fcuking bizarre. Anyone ever sends me a dick pic they'll be getting back a picture of a Stanley knife.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭server down


    rusty cole wrote: »
    what pisses me off is how the likes of SNL comediens like Tina Few can make a career out of mocking bill cosby and sarah palin (and rightly so).

    As soon as it hits home, well gosh darn it we're all out of ideas.
    Has anyone read jessica chastains view on it??what a lady..
    I was happy before I was an actress and if I was blanked in the morning, I'd be fine with that!! class act. she's gone after brian singer as well and good for her.

    I'll bet someone outside the USA will be getting a call come charade/award season.. hopefully it's ricky gervais :)

    That or there’s no humour or roasts at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Easy Rod wrote: »
    You're deliberately misinterpreting the poster's point

    I don't 'deliberately misrepresent' any user, but appreciate the accusation nonetheless, always nice to see who'd endorse such a view (not that there were any surprises ;))
    A small minority of men would, if there was nothing to stop them. Thankfully there are laws to stop that kind of thing.

    Fair enough, but you should have said that then.

    Tbf though, a small minority already do that and many a women also too of course. Sure wasn't a woman recently arrested for flashing the Mona Lisa (and all in the vacinity) another at a baseball game cause there were some young boys beside her. Tove Lo flashes the crowds at her concerts each night too and let's not forget about all those female celebs who use see thru tops and split skirts, with no underwear on to sell their latest films. Can't remember seeing Tom Hanks get his todger out on the red carpet to sell Forest Gump, but I could be wrong. Women flashing in public is not seen as an inherently sinister act the way it is when a man gets his dick out though. Sure look at Mardi Gras in the states. A festival put on so women can expose themselves, or at least that's what it's become. A topic for another thread perhaps.

    Anyway, looks like Louis' career's gonna take a big hit, in the short term at least.

    https://twitter.com/netflix/status/929072847137280000


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    anna080 wrote: »
    It's fcuking bizarre. Anyone ever sends me a dick pic they'll be getting back a picture of a Stanley knife.

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭server down


    The Louis apology was just weird.


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  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    brooke 2 wrote: »
    +100

    One thing I read was about a party attended by Corey Haim when he was very young - his parents were also in attendance. Corey was not enjoying it and went outside where he was found crying by Sarah Jessica Parker and her then boyfriend, Robert Downey Jr. According to Parker, Downey brought Corey home with him and allowed him to live with him for months. How strange was that?
    Corey was only a child and it is well known that Downey had drug problems in his youth. Where were Corey's Mum and Dad during this time? Corey's Mum does not want much delving into her past behaviour re Corey's welfare.

    Given the rumours about RDJ's dad being of a similar...persuasion, he probably knew a lot of the sharks circling Haim for what they were and while his heart was in the right place, with his own addiction issues he had his own demons to contend with at the same time.

    RDJ seems like a decent man, and if he had been sober then, it could have been a very different future for Haim.

    But yeah, Mrs. Haim not minding if her kid goes off to live with a drug user for a few months? Beggars belief.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    Neyite wrote: »
    Given the rumours about RDJ's dad being of a similar...persuasion, he probably knew a lot of the sharks circling Haim for what they were and while his heart was in the right place, with his own addiction issues he had his own demons to contend with at the same time.

    RDJ seems like a decent man, and if he had been sober then, it could have been a very different future for Haim.

    But yeah, Mrs. Haim not minding if her kid goes off to live with a drug user for a few months? Beggars belief.

    It sounded like it was well intentioned on RDJ's part, but it was bizarre that CH's mother/parents were ok with it. Serious dereliction of duty on her/their part. No wonder she wants Corey Feldman to stop stirring the pot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,140 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    brooke 2 wrote: »
    It sounded like it was well intentioned on RDJ's part, but it was bizarre that his mother/parents were ok with it. Serious dereliction of duty on her/their part. No wonder she wants Corey Feldman to stop stirring the pot.

    There are mothers who turn out their children for prostitution, or set them up for abuse, horrific a fact as that may be.


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    If that's true, then fair f*cks to RDJ. I've a tonne of respect for that man, but now it's got much better.

    It takes someone strong to come back from the levels of addiction he was seemingly having and apparently turning it completely around.

    Edit:

    I also do think that what we were seeing about Louis CK, wherein he admitted to what he was doing through his various performances, was a cry for help. It would explain why he so readily admitted to it.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If that's true, then fair f*cks to RDJ. I've a tonne of respect for that man, but now it's got much better.

    It takes someone strong to come back from the levels of addiction he was seemingly having and apparently turning it completely around.

    Edit:

    I also do think that what we were seeing about Louis CK, wherein he admitted to what he was doing through his various performances, was a cry for help. It would explain why he so readily admitted to it.

    It's also possible that it was a massive display of arrogance, that he thought he could behave as he did, and even allude to that behaviour in public, and get away with it.

    Jimmy Saville did something similar, announcing in interviews that he'd do whatever he could get away with - and he did, as we know.

    Never underestimate the arrogance of people who believe they're untouchable.


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    I think that whole media scrum by the news anchor has rung the death knell for Mr kevin invading your spacey!!!! it's chapter and verse for him I think.

    when we are teenagers, we tell our friends everything, first kiss, first cigarette, first ride, first broken heart etc etc, never the parents because your a teenager. Your friends have the goods on you always..haims mother is ****in mental if she thinks his friends and closest confidants, even victims themselves, have "the wrong guy"...what a liar she is to be honest.. if she did care at all, wouldn't she want to jail the scumbag who ruined her sons life.. like I said, check her bank balance in a year...complicit by design I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭Underground


    I see Ellen Page posted on FB with allegations of assault against Ratner. Some of the details really are awful, madness that this Ratner guy and many others have seemingly been able to get away with it for so long.

    I was enjoying reading the post until for some reason she started to conflate sexual assault in Hollywood with white supremacy which is when I lost interest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    "But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn’t a question. It’s a predicament for them. "

    This is the weirdest part of the statement... just how could he ever think it wouldn't be fuucking weird to ask someone randomly if they would like to watch you masturbate in your dressing room. What age would you have to be to realise that? I don't know his work but I assume he is a writer and that statement was badly written, expressed and made no sense.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It is truly amazing that these people want to open up about their assault, but it needs to be done to police, not social media.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 781 ✭✭✭capefear


    http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/41950198

    Sepp Blatter Next on the list, Hope Solo has accused former Fifa president Sepp Blatter of sexual harassment


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    It is truly amazing that these people want to open up about their assault, but it needs to be done to police, not social media.

    The best way to get other victims to come forward as we have seen is to do it via social media.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    The best way to get other victims to come forward as we have seen is to do it via social media.

    Valid point - but there should be a legal route too.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    The best way to get other victims to come forward as we have seen is to do it via social media.

    It's a far from perfect platform, but I don't think anyone can dispute that it's been the vehicle that made it possible for victims to oust their abusers having found their voices aren't alone or even unusual in some cases.

    The power of solidarity at work.

    It's far from perfect, but people suffering alone and not reporting for fear of repercussion or because of trauma have found strength in numbers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭kingtiger


    Jeremy Piven: "we’re entering 'dark times' where accusations are printed as fact"

    couldn't agree more, knee jerk reaction to these so called "allegations" are completely unwarranted

    Gwan Jermey


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭cloudatlas




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    well what these people value most is their brand and reputation. now consider an injunction which keeps their name out of the public domain, whilst they work quickly to discredit or pay off an already damaged person!! then the land settles, the lawyers move in and it all disappears. Hey presto, no jail time, no accountability, power wins, money talks... rinse and repeat....

    so maybe using social media actually attacks the brand, damages the name and though they'll never see a jail cell because as we've seen, jail is for the poor!! they'll never really work again.....I'll take that to be honest.....

    Bottom line folks,acting/comedy writing/Artistic director/producer is a job and Louie CK was at one time somebodys boss. By his own admission, he asked could he **** in front of or around women who didn't want him to and then did it anyway... so michael O leary asks the cabin crew de jour can he **** in a bizzie Lizzie or some other unfortunate fauna, and that's ok?? take the ARTIST angle out of it and that's what it boils down to..I'll **** here and if you value your job, you'll watch me!!! yeah put your sister in that setting folks and come back and tell me aaaawww poor guy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭kingtiger


    cloudatlas wrote: »

    my God its Vanity Fair proving my guilt

    head for the hills!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 61 ✭✭my poor tortured hands


    It's impossible to stamp this behaviour out.

    People want to be with important and powerful people. If Emma Watson advertises for a mate or for a friend she will get lots of replies. It's not Emma's problem that she's lithe and popular.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    kingtiger wrote: »
    my God its Vanity Fair proving my guilt

    head for the hills!!!

    I just looked him up and more women had come forward, are we to apply this across the board.. you are clutching at straws here, how many does it take before you believe?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭kingtiger


    where's the beef??


    sunshine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    I think in the case where an allegation has been denied by the accused, then you are entitled to have your day in court and not be trialed by media.

    BBC has axed their Agatha Christie drama which featured Ed Westwick- bear in mind Ed has denied ever even meeting the woman, and she has changed details of the alleged circumstances when it was figured he wasn't even in the country at the time. If there are going to be names fired out on Twitter every single day now, its awful to think that there is the potential for innocent names to be mixed up in all of this.

    If you admit your wrongdoings (Harvey, Louis et al) then it's up to your individual employer to decide how they want to proceed but you deserve to face consequences (and on a personal level they can go to hell)- but where you've denied something then it's only right to be treated as our justice system advocates you be treated. Anything other than that just doesn't sit right with me. Now I've had a few wines so I'm not sure if I'm making sense


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭kingtiger


    anna080 wrote: »
    I think in the case where an allegation has been denied by the accused, then you are entitled to have your day in court and not be trialed by media.

    BBC has axed their Agatha Christie drama which featured Ed Westwick- bear in mind Ed has denied ever even meeting the woman, and she has changed details of the alleged circumstances when he said he wasn't even in the country at the time.

    If there are going to be names fired out on Twitter every single day now, its awful to think that there is the potential for innocent names to be mixed up in all of this. If you admit your wrongdoings then it's up to your individual employer to decide how they want to proceed- but where you've denied something then it's only right to be treated as our justice system advocates you be treated.


    Anything other than that just doesn't sit right with me.

    sorry mate had to format as I couldn't read it

    *edit* yes I am on your train of thinking


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 61 ✭✭my poor tortured hands


    A male rock star had a gig. After the gig his stage managers asks the crowd if anyone wants to go backstage to meet the superstar rock star. 100 girls step up. The manager says the rock star wants a massage. Is anyone willing.

    That may be fairly despicable but is it illegal?

    Anyone could do that if they were rich and famous. It's impossible to stamp out.

    It's not the rock stars fault that he's popular.

    What about ordinary irish men who are successful on Tinders or those apps. They can meet 3 different women per week but the women are willing participants. Other less successful men can't get any dates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Anthony Edwards (Top Gun, ER, Gotcha! etc) accuses a producer (Gary Goddard) of abusing him as a child:
    Anthony Edwards Accuses Producer Gary Goddard of Molesting Him "For Years"

    Anthony Edwards has written an emotional essay in which he alleges that writer-producer Gary Goddard molested him and raped his friend in a pattern of abuse that "went on for years."

    Edwards' piece, published Friday on Medium and titled "Yes Mom, There is Something Wrong," is particularly troubling considering his age at the time. The actor, now 55 years old and best known for his Emmy-nominated work on E.R., recalls meeting Goddard when he was 12. "He quickly became a dominant force in my life," Edwards writes. "He taught me about the value of acting, respect for friendship and the importance of studying." Calling Goddard — known for film work like 1987's Masters of the Universe and for a long list of credits designing and producing major theme park attractions including Jurassic Park: The Ride, Terminator 2/3D: Battle Across Time, Star Trek: The Experience, Jaws and King Kong on the Loose — a "sick father figure," Edwards writes that he and his five friends grew close to the man during what was a pivotal time in his life.

    "Pedophiles prey on the weak. My father, who suffered from undiagnosed PTSD from WWII, was not emotionally available. Everyone has the need to bond, and I was no exception. My vulnerability was exploited. I was molested by Goddard, my best friend was raped by him — and this went on for years. The group of us, the gang, stayed quiet," he writes after opening the essay by revealing that his mother approached him when he was 14 to ask about the rumors she'd heard about Goddard, that he was a pedophile. However, he "denied it through tears of complete panic," and "to face that truth was not an option as my sense of self was completely enmeshed in my gang of five friends who were all led by this sick father figure."

    He does not name the friends, but he does write that he confronted Goddard 22 years ago.

    "I happened to run into Gary Goddard at an airport," he recalls. "I was able to express my outrage at what he had done. He swore to his remorse and said that he had gotten help. I felt a temporary sense of relief. I say temporary because when Goddard appeared in the press four years ago for alleged sexual abuse, my rage resurfaced."

    It is not the first time Goddard has faced these types of accusations. He was named in a teen sex abuse lawsuit in 2014 by Michael Egan, whose case later collapsed under his own credibility issues, and his lawyers apologized for making false claims against some of the defendants. Egan later went to jail for fraud. Seeing Goddard's name in the press triggered Edwards, he writes, leading him to seek outside help.

    "At 51 years old, I was directed by a group of loving friends to a therapist who specializes in this kind of abuse. By processing my anger in a safe place with a professional, I was finally able to have the conversation that I wish I could have had with my mom when I was 14," he explains.

    As a result of that process, he has gained perspective on the abuse he suffered, but also how widespread his experience is among men. "I’ve learned a lot in these last four years. Most importantly, I’ve learned that I’m not alone. One in six men have an abusive sexual experience before they turn 18. Secrecy, shame and fear are the tools of abuse, and it is only by breaking the stigma of childhood sexual abuse that we can heal, change attitudes, and create safer environments for our children," he concludes, later ending the essay by offering links to resources that he has found helpful on his own journey. One of those he lists is Mariska Hargitay's Joyful Heart Foundation. (Edwards had a guest role opposite Hargitay on NBC's Law & Order: SVU, and he currently stars on Law & Order True Crime: The Menendez Murders)

    It has been 37 days since The New York Times published Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey's investigative piece detailing Harvey Weinstein's decades of alleged sexual misconduct, a story that was quickly followed by Ronan Farrow's own investigation about Weinstein published by The New Yorker. Their work and subsequent stories on the subject opened the floodgates to create a far-reaching dialogue about harassment, assault and sexual misconduct, not only in Hollywood but in many industries across the globe. Thus far, the conversation about sexual misconduct has largely focused on female victims and accusers. There have been exceptions, however, like Corey Feldman, Terry Crews, and multiple men who came forward with claims that they were harassed or assaulted by APA agent Tyler Grasham.


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    Seems it's George Takei's turn now. Always the first to pass judgement based on an accusation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Louis CK's show is not going to age well.

    OvdEN0Z.jpg

    Here's the clip of that.




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    cloudatlas wrote: »

    We still have to remember, in fairness to Piven, that not one of the accusations made are remotely proven yet and the denials were instant and categoric.

    What this might certainly change in Hollywood is not only rape and sexual assault, but people leaving themselves in situations where rape and sexual assault may be alleged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭mosi


    Am I the only person here who has never heard of Louis CK prior to this?


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    mosi wrote: »
    Am I the only person here who has never heard of Louis CK prior to this?

    Ranked 4th on Rolling Stone's 50 greatest stand ups of all time, behind Pryor, Carlin and Bruce, ahead of Hicks, Martin, Seinfeld, Rivers etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,365 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    There were alleged threats from the agent representing Louis C.K. and careers curtailed.

    As well as people being told 'delete your tweet about Louis'. Not joking, many female comedians have spoken about this.
    Plus you had the usual 'I'm a male feminist defending women' types (Aziz Ansari, for one) who would shut down all talk of Louis CK. This was widely known.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/louis-cks-powerful-army-of-celebrity-enablers

    George Takei-another guy hiding in plain sight.
    https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/929237835801964544
    Also, remember the time he was like 'I was molested by a camp scout leader-and it was great'? Yeah, not so innocent...well, it was never innocent.

    Another guy who's gonna get called out soon is Fred Armisen. An old Gawker article talks about how he is a total piece of crud. Likes to use and abuse women, spread STD's, and even dumped a girlfriend after she miscarried.

    http://gawker.com/fred-armisen-has-a-reputation-1677187580


    He's another guy with links to Bryan Singer, even being listed on a legal case together. So how quick until the 'Usual Suspect' gets called up in court?
    Anthony Edwards (Top Gun, ER, Gotcha! etc) accuses a producer (Gary Goddard) of abusing him as a child:

    https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/11/anthony-edwards-sexual-abuse-gary-goddard

    He molested Edwards, and then raped one of his friends-but I think the manipulation didn't stop there. Even as an adult, Antony Edwards I mean, and 37 years ago, Goddard told Edwards he'd 'gotten treatment'...and then only a few years ago, more accusations comes out. This Goddard guy is a real piece of excrement.


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