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What's with this "I've not had" shyte?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Eeh, well I'll go to the foot of our stairs.
    This isn't fcuking Coronation Street. This is Ireland.

    Is it 'eck as like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,368 ✭✭✭MonkieSocks


    noone knows :confused:

    =(:-) Me? I know who I am. I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude (-:)=



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 79 ✭✭Uosdwis R. Dewoh


    Anyone notice the fashion of dropping "will" or "would" in social media comments sections?

    E.g. "He be delighted" ("He'd" or "He'll" be delighted) or "I love to go" ("I'd" love to go). People don't say it so I guess writing it has just come from the laziness caused by text speak.

    Ungood.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    I see this creeping in to use recently.
    'I've not done...' or 'I've not had'...

    This isn't fcuking Coronation Street. This is Ireland.

    We say have not, or haven't.

    Ye Plastic Paddy bashterds.

    Why are you calling people Plastic Paddies? A Plastic Paddy is somebody trying to be Irish.

    In this case it seems like you wanna be calling people West Brits.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭Paleblood


    So, nothing is as bad as starting sentences with an unnecessary "so".

    So, like this.

    So, now I'm off to the shops.

    Seamus Heaney started his translation of Beowulf with the word 'so'.

    "So. The Spear-Danes in days done by
    And the kings who ruled them had courage and greatness.
    We have heard of those princes' heroic campaigns."


    Previous translators have started with 'Listen!' and J.R.R. Tolkien, in his only recently published translation, used 'Lo!', which has a completely different feel to it.

    Heaney, in his translator's note introducing the poem, says that he chose 'so' because in his native Northern Ireland (in Ireland in general, I would argue) the word 'so' is both an end and a beginning, which he thought appropriate for the story of Beowulf. It draws a line under what's previously been said and gives a start to what's about to be said.

    He also said that the word captures the solemnity of the men and women of Northern Ireland that he was born amongst and the poem is best read and understood in that spirit

    So (see what I did there), the next time you're on the receiving end of it just remember the grand literary tradition you're a part of!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,675 ✭✭✭exaisle


    What gets me is the ignoramuses (ignorami?) who say "should of" and "would of" instead of "should have" and "would have"....

    I blame english teachers for not nipping this in the bud. Standards of grammar and syntax these days have slipped to an all-time low.

    Harumph!

    (PS. Tongue inserted in cheek)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,319 ✭✭✭emo72


    Omackeral wrote: »
    That's a bigger p*ss boiler in all honesty.

    It was put there to subtly provoke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    Flamin' eck! Can you all just give ova! Someone stick kettle on........ I'd murder a brew me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭server down


    Paleblood wrote: »
    Seamus Heaney started his translation of Beowulf with the word 'so'.

    "So. The Spear-Danes in days done by
    And the kings who ruled them had courage and greatness.
    We have heard of those princes' heroic campaigns."


    Previous translators have started with 'Listen!' and J.R.R. Tolkien, in his only recently published translation, used 'Lo!', which has a completely different feel to it.

    Heaney, in his translator's note introducing the poem, says that he chose 'so' because in his native Northern Ireland (in Ireland in general, I would argue) the word 'so' is both an end and a beginning, which he thought appropriate for the story of Beowulf. It draws a line under what's previously been said and gives a start to what's about to be said.

    He also said that the word captures the solemnity of the men and women of Northern Ireland that he was born amongst and the poem is best read and understood in that spirit

    So (see what I did there), the next time you're on the receiving end of it just remember the grand literary tradition you're a part of!

    Exactly. Here is why some Irish people are annoyed with this. It spread in the US particularly in Silicon Valley recently ( I like to think with Irish influence) and started to annoy people over there. That annoyance spread back via some British commentary and now some Irish people think that we never said this, though we may have originated it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭server down


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    But I know plenty of English people who say "I was sat" and write "I was sitting".

    So people be informal in speech, like.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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