Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018

emmetlego

Right you can do one. You’re a complete drama queen, comparing that comment to Kevin Myers!!! Ha ha. Typical Spuds fan!

DeanAustin

Yawns wrote: »

You're not offended? You certainly seem to be.

I didn't take any anti-Semitic views from that post. Wasn't aware Levy was of Jewish background either tbh as I don't have that much of an interest in him. I just assumed from how he gets a lot of money from selling any player. He's known as being very shrewd in that regard. I'm not even an arsenal fan so no reason for me to be trying to get a dig in at spurs. I'm merely pointing out that I think you've grasped the wrong end of the straw here and over-reacted in a massive way.

Unless the poster has a history of it, I think you're in the wrong.

Jaysus buddy, if I was offended I’d be reporting it to the mods. I’m not remotely offended. Like I say, I’m not Jewish and have no connection to the religion.

Spurs Jewish heritage is very well known. If you weren’t aware of that you don’t follow football too closely.

Baggly

Move on pal. It's a thread for discussing arsenal.

DeanAustin

emmetlego wrote: »

Right you can do one. You’re a complete drama queen, comparing that comment to Kevin Myers!!! Ha ha. Typical Spuds fan!

Can you tell me what the difference was in the sentiment behind the comments?

Myers said, in relation to two Jewish women “Jews are not generally noted for selling their talent for the lowest price possible.”

The poster said “It’s entirely your own choice to give up home advantage to chase the almighty dollar. Living up to your stereotypical reputation there.”

If one is anti-Semitic, so is the other. Like I say, it doesn’t offend me. I just find it strange that we have people posting that sort of thing and calling Harry Kane a “mong” and it seems to be okay.

DeanAustin

Pter wrote: »

Move on pal. It's a thread for discussing arsenal.

Will do. Enjoy the discussion.

emmetlego

Pter wrote: »

Move on pal. It's a thread for discussing arsenal.

It worked. I wish I had your powers of persuasion! :-)

golfball37

Yawns wrote: »

You're not offended? You certainly seem to be.

I didn't take any anti-Semitic views from that post. Wasn't aware Levy was of Jewish background either tbh as I don't have that much of an interest in him. I just assumed from how he gets a lot of money from selling any player. He's known as being very shrewd in that regard. I'm not even an arsenal fan so no reason for me to be trying to get a dig in at spurs. I'm merely pointing out that I think you've grasped the wrong end of the straw here and over-reacted in a massive way.

Unless the poster has a history of it, I think you're in the wrong.

The “I just assumed line” is very interesting and revealing. I think the poster Dean Austin was onto something

jaykay74

Interview if anyone is interested with Graham Potter who is the Östersunds FK (who Arsenal play in the europa) coach. Not a bad read.

https://www.coachesvoice.com/outliers/

Yawns

golfball37 wrote: »

The “I just assumed line” is very interesting and revealing. I think the poster Dean Austin was onto something

Is he? Am I anti-Semitic now?

Yawns

I'll clarify that I assumed the chasing the almighty dollar was in relation to Levy not letting his players go on the cheap and pretty much always getting top dollar for them. He's also known for paying lower than market rate wages in regards to Kane etc at the moment.

But hey that must mean I hate Jews even tho I couldn't give a figs about anyone's religion. Really weird mindset being revealed here alright and I certainly don't think it's mine for once!

omega man

27 points behind city is just incredible at this stage of the season. Even 9 points behind pool is embarrassing enough. Wondering where rock bottom will be....

I saw yesterday we haven’t beaten a top 5 team away since City in 2015. Can’t see us being any worse off under any other manager and I pretty much mean anyone!

Would be great to know he was leaving end of this season and for the fans to get behind him and the team and see if we can win some silverware, ideally the europa.

JenovaProject

So lads, basically we are all Hitler because we hate Spurs
Jaysus these spurs lads are awful sore winners...must be a lack of vitamin d from all those years in the shadows.

emmetlego

Do you know the funny (peculiar, not ha ha) thing about yesterday, while I was looking forward to the game, I was not angry at the end. I wasn't pee'd off. I was kind of expecting it, and even at the abject performance (save the last 10 minutes) I was numb to it. I've become numb to Arsenal..... That's a new low for me. I can't even come up with a good reason to stop my young lad supporting Liverpool, even his dad has given up hope and said this morning, that maybe we should just give in. I mean why would we want him to suffer under this cloud like we have? Let him support who he wants, at least he can't blame us later in life if his sporting memories are miserable.

omega man

Not pool though emmetlego, not them man. I couldn’t live with that, anyone but them (or Utd).

niallo27

emmetlego wrote: »

Do you know the funny (peculiar, not ha ha) thing about yesterday, while I was looking forward to the game, I was not angry at the end. I wasn't pee'd off. I was kind of expecting it, and even at the abject performance (save the last 10 minutes) I was numb to it. I've become numb to Arsenal..... That's a new low for me. I can't even come up with a good reason to stop my young lad supporting Liverpool, even his dad has given up hope and said this morning, that maybe we should just give in. I mean why would we want him to suffer under this cloud like we have? Let him support who he wants, at least he can't blame us later in life if his sporting memories are miserable.

Believe me he will suffer just as much growing up supporting Liverpool.

JenovaProject

emmetlego wrote: »

Do you know the funny (peculiar, not ha ha) thing about yesterday, while I was looking forward to the game, I was not angry at the end. I wasn't pee'd off. I was kind of expecting it, and even at the abject performance (save the last 10 minutes) I was numb to it. I've become numb to Arsenal..... That's a new low for me. I can't even come up with a good reason to stop my young lad supporting Liverpool, even his dad has given up hope and said this morning, that maybe we should just give in. I mean why would we want him to suffer under this cloud like we have? Let him support who he wants, at least he can't blame us later in life if his sporting memories are miserable.

Had this conversation last night with my 7yo boy....I was proud as punch when the silly fcuker said he follows Arsenal because that "his team" and it doesnt matter that City are winning all the time because his nana follows City and he can be happy for her.
Ive a massive picture of the invincibles in the games room(not rich,converted garage lol) and the young lad just keeps saying "we did it before,we'll do it again,we just need a new manager"...good lad he's been listening to me and knows this slump is temporary,change the management and our fortunes will change for the better.....keep the faith lads,we've been through worse times than this!!!

emmetlego

He's just not being inspired! He sat down to watch the Toffee's game with me and the hubby and said that Aubameyang would be like Henry and that maybe he's gonna support the Gunners. We were chuffed. But then the Spuds game happened. So that's one positive moment for him supporting the club in about 20 negative experiences.... It'll break our heart, but We want him to be happy! And as I said, if it means he can't blame us for his sporting misery, then that's a bonus! His goldfish is called Dennis if that's any consolation!

JenovaProject

emmetlego wrote: »

He's just not being inspired! He sat down to watch the Toffee's game with me and the hubby and said that Aubameyang would be like Henry and that maybe he's gonna support the Gunners. We were chuffed. But then the Spuds game happened. So that's one positive moment for him supporting the club in about 20 negative experiences.... It'll break our heart, but We want him to be happy! And as I said, if it means he can't blame us for his sporting misery, then that's a bonus! His goldfish is called Dennis if that's any consolation!

Ah I see,my lad didnt get a choice of who he supported,hes the 4th generation of Gunner in our family.
He was out of the womb and into an Arsenal babygro:D
Ive been spending this season trying to console him by explaining that when I was his age Arsenal were finishing mid-table and he cant believe it!!
Im amazed at his positivity that things will get better and to be brutally honest its him thats keeping the little flicker of a flame I have left burning.
Like you Im totally numb with the shitshow happening right now but the optimistic little feck wont let go that things will change.
In all fairness though he remembers FA Cup finals and hes seen us win 3,I cant bring myself to tell him that its really a Premier League title thats important but hes a kid and hes seen us winning trophies and in his little mind that means we are winners and you can be damn sure I wont be taking that away from him.

He was also distraught yesterday at losing to those scum down seven sisters rd...he knows we dont like losing to Spurs.

I laughed at the goldfishes name:pac:

Quazzie

emmetlego wrote: »

Thanks for stopping by, be sure to do so again when you actually win a trophy!

DeanAustin wrote: »

Will do sir. Bye.

Boards will be well gone before he comes back

EDIT: Seems he didn't go, but instead came back in a huff over a comment.

If you think I am anti-semitic then I challenge you to find any post in my history (over 20k) to back up your claim.

Otherwise please ease off on the racism accusations.

emmetlego

He asked Santa for a Liverpool jersey by the way... I spent 400 euro on a frigggen Play Station to stop his angst!

But we can't do it anymore. We won't encourage him to support them, but we can't stop it now. Unless Arsenal have a crazy run of results? That is not going to happen. He says he'll still support the Gunners as his 2nd team. Look, I gave birth to him. I love him OK!!! :-)

StringerBell

jonneymendoza wrote: »

We got bigger problems then spurs!
Anyways it seems Sanchez move to United is proving to be a side step lol

A sidestep.......from 6th placed team, to 2nd placed team......a sidestep.....nice to see Miki up to his usual level of performance for ye too. Offensive football all the way.

emmetlego

StringerBell wrote: »

Offensive

Indeed. Just like your manager and a lot of the previous incumbents.

We only accept ladies and gentlemen here in this thread. Please do one, like the Spuds clown before you! :-)

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

This thread has reached a new low over the last 24 hours but I'm glad to say it's none of the regulars that are to blame.

LuckyLloyd

Basil3 wrote: »

What is up with this thread lately? It used to be (for the most part) Arsenal fans talking about Arsenal, but lately every Tom, Dick and Harry feels the need to pop by and share their wisdom.

Probably has something to do with the lack of match threads of late.

Because we are witnessing the last days of Rome. A once mighty empire under Wenger is soon to be in smithereens. It’s one of the most compelling sports stories rumbling on right now and it’s ending is sure to come with a ton of recrimination and debate.

L'prof

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Because we are witnessing the last days of Rome. A once mighty empire under Wenger is soon to be in smithereens. It’s one of the most compelling sports stories rumbling on right now and it’s ending is sure to come with a ton of recrimination and debate.

Hardly debate, Spurs fans gloating over their latest win even though we doubled their tally in the Emirates and United fans sticking the boot in because Mkhitaryan had a poor performance even though his efforts against Everton alone have surpassed all of Sanchez’s contributions in his 4 games thus far

That aside, Wenger has to go. What’s there to talk about?

LuckyLloyd

Until he goes every dropped point gets dissected. People can’t look away at a slow motion car crash, rightly or wrongly.

WoollyRedHat

Can't even revert to old-time classics ' What was Wenger thinking , bringing Walcott on so early'

Quazzie

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Until he goes every dropped point gets dissected. People can’t look away at a slow motion car crash, rightly or wrongly.

Jaysis, if a dropped point is going to bring them in we're going be flooded with nonsense before years end.

Looper007

omega man wrote: »

Would be great to know he was leaving end of this season and for the fans to get behind him and the team and see if we can win some silverware, ideally the europa.

You must be joking, he'd sign a 5 year contract if he won anymore silverware especially Europa. The worst thing for Arsenal is him winning any silverware this season or getting back into the CL. You know well enough how stubborn and arrogant he is, for the best of this club's future this man must not get top 4, win the Europa or even the League cup. I get the hate from Arsene FC lot and "you are not a Arsenal supporter" but I'm thinking of the good of this club's future.

Quazzie

Looper007 wrote: »

You must be joking, he'd sign a 5 year contract if he won anymore silverware especially Europa. The worst thing for Arsenal is him winning any silverware this season or getting back into the CL. You know well enough how stubborn and arrogant he is, for the best of this club's future this man must not get top 4, win the Europa or even the League cup. I get the hate from Arsene FC lot and "you are not a Arsenal supporter" but I'm thinking of the good of this club's future.

With Man City winning the league (almost guaranteed at this stage) are we guaranteed a EL spot for next year even if we lose the League Cup?

DvB

Quazzie wrote: »

With Man City winning the league (almost guaranteed at this stage) are we guaranteed a EL spot for next year even if we lose the League Cup?

Did Southampton make the EL this year through losing the CL final to United? If so I think that answers your question.

Had forgotten about that!

Skylinehead

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Because we are witnessing the last days of Rome. A once mighty empire under Wenger is soon to be in smithereens. It’s one of the most compelling sports stories rumbling on right now and it’s ending is sure to come with a ton of recrimination and debate.

Ah jaysis Lloyd, what a load of bollocks! A Spurs fan coming in and gloating (and going very odd with antisemitism claims!) is absolutely nothing to do with a "once mighty empire" declining. I think you've massively overanalysed that one...

DeanAustin

Skylinehead wrote: »

Ah jaysis Lloyd, what a load of bollocks! A Spurs fan coming in and gloating (and going very odd with antisemitism claims!) is absolutely nothing to do with a "once mighty empire" declining. I think you've massively overanalysed that one...

Ah here. I didn’t come to gloat at all. I was addressing a claim from one of your fans that “without Harry Kane, Spurs are very ordinary.” The same fella who put up a post about Kane being a mong.

On the anti-Semitism stuff, I don’t really want to carry on the debate but you should ask yourself why the poster referenced Spurs “stereotypical reputation for chasing the almighty dollar” with a winking emoji. What do you think he was talking about?

So lads. Ostersunds on Thursday....

emmetlego

Second string team surely with Lacca to start?

Quazzie

DeanAustin wrote: »

Ah here. I didn’t come to gloat at all. I was addressing a claim from one of your fans that “without Harry Kane, Spurs are very ordinary.” The same fella who put up a post about Kane being a mong.

On the anti-Semitism stuff, I don’t really want to carry on the debate but you should ask yourself why the poster referenced Spurs “stereotypical reputation for chasing the almighty dollar” with a winking emoji. What do you think he was talking about?

Why not ask me directly instead of making outlandish claims?

I was referring to the fact that at Spurs, everything has a price. No player is "hands off" but instead, it's how much. Ye have a reputation for selling at incredibly high prices and buying, and paying the lower rate. And as you have said before, if players look for more, ye will gladly sell, and replace with different players who won't. Ye have made this reputation for yourselves, by your actions, and not by some long lost link to Judaism.

emmetlego

emmetlego wrote: »

Second string team surely with Lacca to start?

Possibly, although we don't have another match again until the home leg next Thursday, followed by EFL Cup final against City on the Sunday. A few first choice players might play on Thursday since there's such a gap between weekend matches.

Quazzie

Basil3 wrote: »

Possibly, although we don't have another match again until the home leg next Thursday, followed by EFL Cup final against City on the Sunday. A few first choice players might play on Thursday since there's such a gap between weekend matches.

Yea, play a full strength team this Thursday, hopefully rack up a bit of a score, then chance the reserves in the following leg, which would leave our first XI rested for the final.

DeanAustin

Quazzie wrote: »

Why not ask me directly instead of making outlandish claims?

I was referring to the fact that at Spurs, everything has a price. No player is "hands off" but instead, it's how much. Ye have a reputation for selling at incredibly high prices and buying, and paying the lower rate. And as you have said before, if players look for more, ye will gladly sell, and replace with different players who won't. Ye have made this reputation for yourselves, by your actions, and not by some long lost link to Judaism.

Well I’ll be honest, I don’t believe you.

The phrasing of your post, by using the word “stereotype” and the winking emoji, says something completely different to me.

Secondly, Spurs are no more a selling club than Arsenal. Who is the last big player we sold? You might make a case for Walker but he was hardly one of our superstars. You’d have to go back to Bale. So if Spurs have a reputation for chasing the dollar then you’d have to say Liverpool (Suarez, Coutinho) and Arsenal (van Persie, Fabregas, Sanchez) would share it.

Since Bale, other clubs in the top 6 have sold off their biggest assets. Also, Spurs have never “chased the almighty dollar”. They’ve gotten a good fee whenever someone has come knocking and the player has been unsettled but Levy hasn’t been hawking our good players to other clubs for a price (quite the opposite in fact).

I think you’ll also find that Levy and Pochettino have clearly stated that we won’t sell anyone we don’t want to sell. They’ve said it repeatedly and had their resolve tested last summer with Man U and Eric Dier. So they very definitely have said “hands off”.

However, I’ve no interest in continuing the argument with you. You say you meant something. I think you meant something else. We’ll have to agree to disagree.

Arne_Saknussem

DeanAustin wrote: »

Well I’ll be honest, I don’t believe you.

The phrasing of your post, by using the word “stereotype” and the winking emoji, says something completely different to me.

Secondly, Spurs are no more a selling club than Arsenal. Who is the last big player we sold? You might make a case for Walker but he was hardly one of our superstars. You’d have to go back to Bale. So if Spurs have a reputation for chasing the dollar then you’d have to say Liverpool (Suarez, Coutinho) and Arsenal (van Persie, Fabregas, Sanchez) would share it.

Since Bale, other clubs in the top 6 have sold off their biggest assets. Also, Spurs have never “chased the almighty dollar”. They’ve gotten a good fee whenever someone has come knocking and the player has been unsettled but Levy hasn’t been hawking our good players to other clubs for a price (quite the opposite in fact).

I think you’ll also find that Levy and Pochettino have clearly stated that we won’t sell anyone we don’t want to sell. They’ve said it repeatedly and had their resolve tested last summer with Man U and Eric Dier. So they very definitely have said “hands off”.

However, I’ve no interest in continuing the argument with you. You say you meant something. I think you meant something else. We’ll have to agree to disagree.

Nobody gives a **** about Bale or Levy in here, keep it to the Spurs thread please.

Quazzie

DeanAustin wrote: »

Well I’ll be honest, I don’t believe you.

I don't really care.

DeanAustin wrote: »

The phrasing of your post, by using the word “stereotype” and the winking emoji, says something completely different to me.

That's the important bit right there. You chose to take a certain way and no one here can influence that.

DeanAustin wrote: »

Secondly, Spurs are no more a selling club than Arsenal. Who is the last big player we sold? You might make a case for Walker but he was hardly one of our superstars. You’d have to go back to Bale. So if Spurs have a reputation for chasing the dollar then you’d have to say Liverpool (Suarez, Coutinho) and Arsenal (van Persie, Fabregas, Sanchez) would share it.

The three examples you give for Arsenal players were all sold well below their true value at the time of sale.

emmetlego

Just ignore him lads, he’ll get bored soon enough if we don’t feed him!

Skylinehead

DeanAustin wrote: »

Ah here. I didn’t come to gloat at all. I was addressing a claim from one of your fans that “without Harry Kane, Spurs are very ordinary.” The same fella who put up a post about Kane being a mong.

On the anti-Semitism stuff, I don’t really want to carry on the debate but you should ask yourself why the poster referenced Spurs “stereotypical reputation for chasing the almighty dollar” with a winking emoji. What do you think he was talking about?

Mod: Stop. Now.

If you don't really want to carry on the debate, then maybe stop doing it? It's entirely nonsensical and ends here. I was going to say this yesterday, but you had the grace to back out before I had to. Then you came back.

LuckyLloyd

Skylinehead wrote: »

Ah jaysis Lloyd, what a load of bollocks! A Spurs fan coming in and gloating (and going very odd with antisemitism claims!) is absolutely nothing to do with a "once mighty empire" declining. I think you've massively overanalysed that one...

I was responding to a guy asking why the thread is generally getting traffic from rival fans on a regular basis. The anti semitism stuff is whatever as far as I'm concerned.

Skylinehead

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I was responding to a guy asking why the thread is generally getting traffic from rival fans on a regular basis. The anti semitism stuff is whatever as far as I'm concerned.

But even in general, come on, the Wenger stuff has dragged on for years. How many crises have we been through now? I think you're taking a bit of a leap by concluding that a bit of weird thread behaviour over the last few weeks is related to Arsenals decline as a whole.

emmetlego

To a certain extent, I could understand the Utd fans popping in when the Sanchez/Mkhitaryan swap was happening, but the influx of Spuds was just a bit of gloating as far as I can tell, and the whole anti Semitic thing was real guffaw territory!

I may not try and stop my lad becoming a Pool fan, but if he ever came through the door in that white jersey, I’d pack his bags for him on the spot.

Mr.H

Quazzie wrote:

That's the important bit right there. You chose to take a certain way and no one here can influence that.

To be fair it did look like it was referencing spurs being Jewish. Very easy to lie about it later. But likewise the offended party has to take the word of the poster. You cant prove or disprove sentiment.

Just to be clear I dont know if it was meant that way. I am just saying that on the internet its hard to read sentiment and very easy to take things the wrong way. Sometimes its best to just explain once and move on. There are far more serious things in life to worry about than something online that probably has no actual; affect on the two individuals debating the interpretation of a comment.

JenovaProject

Mr.H wrote: »

To be fair it did look like it was referencing spurs being Jewish. Very easy to lie about it later.

To be fair..That's not really fair at all...

Report the post and stop clogging the thread with this sh1te.

Mr.H

JenovaProject wrote: »

To be fair..That's not really fair at all...

Report the post and stop clogging the thread with this sh1te.

See my edited post

Quazzie

Mr.H wrote: »

To be fair it did look like it was referencing spurs being Jewish. Very easy to lie about it later.

Plenty of people, many who read my posts, and know my stance on here, have taken it the way it was intended. Storming into a thread to gloat, then accusing someone of antisemitism, when you have zero idea of a poster's history or posting style on something you perceived incorrectly is in poor form, and goes against the run of this thread.

Just to add, if anyone wants to discuss this further with me, they can do so via PM because this thread has been derailed enough so this will be my last post on the matter.