Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018

jonneymendoza

Exactly a carbon copy of what I just said ^

tayto lover

jonneymendoza wrote: »

Exactly a carbon copy of what I just said ^

Great minds think alike.










Fools seldom differ

Skylinehead

So we need to win every one of our last 10 league games just to reach the points we got last season. Which wasn't good enough.

We're hugely regressing.

tayto lover

Skylinehead wrote: »

So we need to win every one of our last 10 league games just to reach the points we got last season. Which wasn't good enough.

We're hugely regressing.

Sanchez gone (80 goals in 3 years)
Defence even worse this season.
Midfield hiding especially in the big games..

There's only one way we can go in fairness.

L'prof

tayto lover wrote: »

Sanchez gone (80 goals in 3 years)

How many since he left?

tayto lover

L'prof wrote: »

How many since he left?

I don't know or care. He's no longer our player BUT when he was with us he scored 80 in 3 years.
Can you see any of the present players doing that?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Skylinehead wrote: »

So we need to win every one of our last 10 league games just to reach the points we got last season. Which wasn't good enough.

We're hugely regressing.

Yeah but if we do that and city manage to lose all their games by a load of 3-0 and 4-0 score lines we can still win the league on goal difference.

L'prof

tayto lover wrote: »

L'prof wrote: »

How many since he left?

I don't know or care. He's no longer our player BUT when he was with us he scored 80 in 3 years.
Can you see any of the present players doing that?

That's not my point. You mention him being gone as if it's a bad thing. I don't think it is. He might have scored 80 in 3.5 years, but he wouldn't have replicated that at Arsenal nor will he at United. With the right management Lacazette and Aubameyang could yet come good. I have far more hope for Aubameyang though. 141 goals in 4.5 years in Germany. Lacazette managed 127 in his last 6 in France but is a couple of years younger

tayto lover

L'prof wrote: »

That's not my point. You mention him being gone as if it's a bad thing. I don't think it is. He might have scored 80 in 3.5 years, but he wouldn't have replicated that at Arsenal nor will he at United. With the right management Lacazette and Aubameyang could yet come good. I have far more hope for Aubameyang though. 141 goals in 4.5 years in Germany. Lacazette managed 127 in his last 6 in France and is a couple of years younger

It was a bad thing imo as our league goals have dried up apart from the 5 against Everton. None against Spurs or City. It takes new players awhile to bed in and get the hang of our system so Sanchez goals did matter and is part of the reason we are regressing. Apart from the duff manager of course and relevant to the post i replied to.

tayto lover

tayto lover wrote: »

It was a bad thing imo as our league goals have dried up apart from the 5 against Everton. None against Spurs or City. It takes new players awhile to bed in and get the hang of our system so Sanchez goals did matter and is part of the reason we are regressing. Apart from the duff manager of course and relevant to the post i replied to.

Sanchez already knew our system. Why has he regressed?

tayto lover

Basil3 wrote: »

Sanchez already knew our system. Why has he regressed?

Our team regressed. You need to read the posts properly.

tayto lover

tayto lover wrote: »

Our team regressed. You need to read the posts properly.

My point is that Sanchez wasn't contributing much, and I reckon that Auba should match Sanchez's contribution for this season come the end of the season.

tayto lover

Basil3 wrote: »

My point is that Sanchez wasn't contributing much, and I reckon that Auba should match Sanchez's contribution for this season come the end of the season.

Probably because he is like the rest of our players and lost faith in the manager and wanted out. He contributed 80 goals in 3 years when he did care though. Hopefully Auba will score many but as I said it takes time to settle in just like Sanchez is taking time to settle in at United.

tayto lover

tayto lover wrote: »

Probably because he is like the rest of our players and lost faith in the manager and wanted out. He contributed 80 goals in 3 years when he did care though. Hopefully Auba will score many but as I said it takes time to settle in just like Sanchez is taking time to settle in at United.

I don't particularly buy this settling in thing, especially when switching between EPL clubs. Have you watched Sanchez play for United? He's playing exactly how he was for us.

They are very different players, though. Sanchez always had the ability to create something from nothing, which I can't see Auba doing.

omega man

Are people still clinging onto the Sanchez was the problem point of view?

I think it’s been demonstrated clearly that there are far more pressing issues within the club.

The fact he hasn’t hit it off at Utd doesn’t mean he wouldn’t be still scoring for us and it’s only a good thing anyway!!

L'prof

tayto lover wrote: »

L'prof wrote: »

That's not my point. You mention him being gone as if it's a bad thing. I don't think it is. He might have scored 80 in 3.5 years, but he wouldn't have replicated that at Arsenal nor will he at United. With the right management Lacazette and Aubameyang could yet come good. I have far more hope for Aubameyang though. 141 goals in 4.5 years in Germany. Lacazette managed 127 in his last 6 in France and is a couple of years younger

It was a bad thing imo as our league goals have dried up apart from the 5 against Everton. None against Spurs or City. It takes new players awhile to bed in and get the hang of our system so Sanchez goals did matter and is part of the reason we are regressing. Apart from the duff manager of course and relevant to the post i replied to.

In his last 9 games for Arsenal Sanchez scored 3 goals. Aubameyang has scored 1 in 4, Lacazette has 1 in his last 4. Let’s see how they get on

tayto lover

Basil3 wrote: »

I don't particularly buy this settling in thing, especially when switching between EPL clubs. Have you watched Sanchez play for United? He's playing exactly how he was for us.

They are very different players, though. Sanchez always had the ability to create something from nothing, which I can't see Auba doing.

I'll judge both of them next season. I don't know enough about Auba as yet as he's come at a very bad time due to the state of our club and probably can't get over the poor quality we have.

tayto lover

L'prof wrote: »

In his last 9 games for Arsenal Sanchez scored 3 goals. Aubameyang has scored 1 in 4, Lacazette has 1 in his last 4. Let’s see how they get on

How many did he score in his first nine just for a proper comparison?

omega man

13 points behind spurs now with Burnley on our heels.

wawaman

Basil3 wrote: »

My point is that Sanchez wasn't contributing much, and I reckon that Auba should match Sanchez's contribution for this season come the end of the season.

Messi would struggle in this team

Topbike77

Just checked there and we are actually closer on points to last place in the table than first.

Mr.Micro

tayto lover wrote: »

I'll judge both of them next season. I don't know enough about Auba as yet as he's come at a very bad time due to the state of our club and probably can't get over the poor quality we have.

Sure there is no pressure on the man. He is probably of two minds, I joined a bad set up and what's the point. When Wenger got a new 2 year contract, the writing was on the wall with regard to the fortunes of the team. Rinse and repeat. Mediocrity would be a plus these days.

jonneymendoza

wawaman wrote: »

Basil3 wrote: »

My point is that Sanchez wasn't contributing much, and I reckon that Auba should match Sanchez's contribution for this season come the end of the season.

Messi would struggle in this team

A primed Thierry Henry would struggle too

jbt123

Just watching The Sunday Supplement on Sky And a couple of the journos were mentioning Brendan Rodgers as a replacement for Wenger.

Would any of you be happy if he were to get the job in the foreseeable future?

jbt123

jbt123 wrote: »

Just watching The Sunday Supplement on Sky And a couple of the journos were mentioning Brendan Rodgers as a replacement for Wenger.

Would any of you be happy if he were to get the job in the foreseeable future?

No

emmetlego

No.

One of the lads on twitter who knows a thing or 2 (got the whole Auba-Giroud deals correct, and the Sanchez/Mkyhitarian one) says it’s Jorge Low. I accept his lack of big league experience, but I’d take him over BR any day

emmetlego

emmetlego wrote: »

No.

One of the lads on twitter who knows a thing or 2 (got the whole Auba-Giroud deals correct, and the Sanchez/Mkyhitarian one) says it’s Jorge Low. I accept his lack of big league experience, but I’d take him over BR any day

Jorge?

emmetlego

Basil3 wrote: »

Jorge?

An autocorrect typo. Should have said ‘Joge’, his nickname.

emmetlego

emmetlego wrote: »

An autocorrect typo. Should have said ‘Joge’, his nickname.

It's Jogi. In any case, my point was that if he's gonna be our manager, we better learn his name

Can't say I'd be overly excited by his arrival, unless it's just a short term 'steady the ship' move.

tayto lover

I wouldn't want Rodgers.
I would be prepared to give Sean Dyche a go for awhile. He has Burnley playing well with average players. His teams know their job and fight hard in matches and he wouldn't tolerate players being soft or hiding in matches and he trains his team very hard i'm told, everyone fit as a fiddle and pepped up mad for action. His players do him proud and carry out his tactics to a man.

jbt123

Is it the Liverpool connection that has you against Rodgers? Or you just don't rate him as a manager?

greendom

tayto lover wrote: »

I wouldn't want Rodgers.
I would be prepared to give Sean Dyche a go for awhile. He has Burnley playing well with average players. His teams know their job and fight hard in matches and he wouldn't tolerate players being soft or hiding in matches and he trains his team very hard i'm told, everyone fit as a fiddle and pepped up mad for action. His players do him proud and carry out his tactics to a man.

No doubt he does a fine job with journeyman professionals. Could he manage the type of elite player we have and will want to attract?

Maybe he can but he's completely unoroven.

tayto lover

greendom wrote: »

No doubt he does a fine job with journeyman professionals. Could he manage the type of elite player we have and will want to attract?

Maybe he can but he's completely unoroven.

Indeed but i'd give him one season. He takes no messing by all accounts and is big into training and making sure his players are fit. He has a sound tactical brain even if his tactics don't always work. He doesn't tolerate non-triers either. He might do well with good players.

tayto lover

jbt123 wrote: »

Is it the Liverpool connection that has you against Rodgers? Or you just don't rate him as a manager?

I just don't rate him. I didn't like the way he set his team up whenever I saw Pool under him and he wasn't always getting the best out of them. I think that's why they got rid of him.

jbt123

jbt123 wrote: »

Is it the Liverpool connection that has you against Rodgers? Or you just don't rate him as a manager?

He's fairly limited and im not sure he'd give us alot more than Wenger. He's also very terminological in his press conferences. Talks alot of spoof. Arsenal need a straight talking no nonsense bullshítter.

jbt123

jbt123 wrote: »

Is it the Liverpool connection that has you against Rodgers? Or you just don't rate him as a manager?

For me, it's the empty brown envelopes.

wawaman

Deleted User wrote: »

He's fairly limited and im not sure he'd give us alot more than Wenger. He's also very terminological in his press conferences. Talks alot of spoof. Arsenal need a straight talking no nonsense bullshítter.

Plus someone who could improve us in Europe. He hasn’t a clue

tayto lover

tayto lover wrote: »

Indeed but i'd give him one season. He takes no messing by all accounts and is big into training and making sure his players are fit. He has a sound tactical brain even if his tactics don't always work. He doesn't tolerate non-triers either. He might do well with good players.

He's very much in the Don Howe school of football in terms of organisation and no nonsense and like Don he actually inspires those around him. Id say he'd run the 2 Instagram models (Bellerin and Iwobi) first thing.

emmetlego

Basil3 wrote:

It's Jogi. In any case, my point was that if he's gonna be our manager, we better learn his name .

Pedantic Pat

Soups123

tayto lover wrote: »

I wouldn't want Rodgers.
I would be prepared to give Sean Dyche a go for awhile. He has Burnley playing well with average players. His teams know their job and fight hard in matches and he wouldn't tolerate players being soft or hiding in matches and he trains his team very hard i'm told, everyone fit as a fiddle and pepped up mad for action. His players do him proud and carry out his tactics to a man.

Sorry Tayto but Jaysus Christ Seán Dyche? Would come out of that he's nowhere near the level. Things are bad but that's just insane

tayto lover

Deleted User wrote: »

He's very much in the Don Howe school of football in terms of organisation and no nonsense and like Don he actually inspires those around him. Id say he'd run the 2 Instagram models (Bellerin and Iwobi) first thing.

He has had a bad run recently but was missing his entire back four as someone stated on another thread. They won yesterday as some of them are back. His panel is small and his budget is very low so i'd love to see how he'd do with a better panel and more money. He takes no messing by all accounts.

wawaman

What I wouldn’t give for simeone to come in and kick their arses. Alas the gutless board would never make an appointment like this that’s why I’m afraid it will be Rodgers, Low or Henry.

tayto lover

Soups123 wrote: »

Sorry Tayto but Jaysus Christ Seán Dyche? Would come out of that he's nowhere near the level. Things are bad but that's just insane

I'd give him a season. He might crack it. Why do you think he wouldn't?

That guy at Swansea Carvahal is no bad coach. Again, well very organised. He'll get a big job at some stage.

Soups123

tayto lover wrote: »

I'd give him a season. He might crack it. Why do you think he wouldn't?

He's no real experience, his approach is very simple (burst a gut), top quality players would never subscribe to his style.

Also taking out his recent good for he's just done a very good job at Burnley taking them up, down and back up.

He's not even close to the level needed

wawaman

Deleted User wrote: »

That guy at Swansea Carvahal is no bad coach. Again, well very organised. He'll get a big job at some stage.

Are we that bad? He was only sacked by Sheffield Wednesday before Christmas. I’d take Rodgers before him and I really really don’t want Rodgers

Soups123

Soups123 wrote: »

Sorry Tayto but Jaysus Christ Seán Dyche? Would come out of that he's nowhere near the level. Things are bad but that's just insane

Given the choice over Loew (who hasnt coached at club level since March 2004 and that club was Austria Vienna) and Rodgers, I would have Dyche before them.

I think there is better coaches out there than all three that we could approach. Allegri, Simeone or Jardim should be the forerunners by right

tayto lover

Soups123 wrote: »

He's no real experience, his approach is very simple (burst a gut), top quality players would never subscribe to his style.

Also taking out his recent good for he's just done a very good job at Burnley taking them up, down and back up.

He's not even close to the level needed

He'd be better than what we have now and he'd install a bit of badly needed discipline. Yes he have them bursting a gut and they might not like it.Tough.

There's nothing to suggest he'd fail in all you've said either. You could be right though. Would you have him as an assistant to someone else and put him in charge of training? We simply don't know how he'd do or what level he's at either in fairness.

Soups123

tayto lover wrote: »

He'd be better than what we have now and he'd install a bit of badly needed discipline. Yes he have them bursting a gut and they might not like it.Tough.

There's nothing to suggest he'd fail in all you've said either. You could be right though. Would you have him as an assistant to someone else and put him in charge of training? We simply don't know how he'd do or what level he's at either in fairness.

I just can't see where your coming from.

He's not a number 2, he's never do it. A club needs a coach who sets the philosophy you can't put a random disciplinarian into a set up it wouldn't work and would be so disjointed.

I don't believe Lowe is the man either. I would love Allegri. I think we ideally need a young vibrant coach with new ideas to awaken the club.

Soups123

Tayto I think your just so desperate for change your not thinking straight 😂😂 I understand it