Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018

Soups123

I don't think either fit. A big part of the hiring process will be finding someone to ignite the club and unify it. Questionable signings like Benitez & Rogers will backfire too quickly if it doesn't start well.

The next signing needs to be a strong confident manager not one who doesn't feel the strength to push the board.

A Rogers signing says we are looking for a yes man to work within budget and not sure enough of himself to demand.

Allegri or someone of that ilk will come with demands for investment

There is no obvious choice but the eventual pick will tell us a lot about what the club want to achieve

omega man

I’m a fan of Rodgers despite some reservations. However I think we need a more defensive minded approach. I don’t mean park the bus but simply build from the back but with an attacking philosophy at our core in respect to everything Wenger believed in.

omega man

Oh and yet another season without spurs silverware. How long will the media love in continue before they get the same treatment we got for so many years (even when winning FA cups)??

tayto lover

omega man wrote: »

I’m a fan of Rodgers despite some reservations. However I think we need a more defensive minded approach. I don’t mean park the bus but simply build from the back but with an attacking philosophy at our core in respect to everything Wenger believed in.

Defenders with cool heads not the type we have that are a bundle of nerves whenever the ball comes into our box.

wandatowell

Was Rodgers a bit of a tool or is the Deluded Brendan Twitter page clouding my memory?

Arne_Saknussem

wandatowell wrote: »

Was Rodgers a bit of a tool or is the Deluded Brendan Twitter page clouding my memory?

My biggest mentor is myself because I’ve had to study and that’s been my biggest influence

The guy would be unlistenable.

L'prof

L'prof wrote: »

I'd just be worried that Rafa would crumble under the pressure and expectation like he did at Liverpool

If we got 5 good years before that I'd be happy.

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

In Rafa's defence, there was a civil war going on in the boardroom and no cash to spend. The club was in financial meltdown.

Against Rafa would be the fact that he tends to fall out with the owners in most clubs he manages. And his handling of the Xabi Alonso situation at the time was very poor.

He tends to fall out with owners for good cause as far as I can tell.
I'd be fine giving him a 2-year contract and expect top 4 in the first season (if we've no CL next season) followed by a good run in Europe.

Arne_Saknussem

Deleted User wrote: »

If we got 5 good years before that I'd be happy.

He tends to fall out with owners for good cause as far as I can tell.
I'd be fine giving him a 2-year contract and expect top 4 in the first season (if we've no CL next season) followed by a good run in Europe.

He also did poorly at European Champions Inter & Real Madrid. Doesn't just fall out with owners, was very unpopular in both dressing rooms too.

Arne_Saknussem

Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

He also did poorly at European Champions Inter & Real Madrid. Doesn't just fall out with owners, was very unpopular in both dressing rooms too.

Inter was very much a Mourinho team. Madrid expedted perfection from the start. I don't see him falling out with the players at Arsenal other than the ones who can go. :P Also he went into Chelsea where no-one wanted him and managed a Europa League win.
As far as a steady hand who's been at the top level he'd be perfectly acceptable for me. Sort the defence in the first year (signing or two if necessary) and add some structure to midfield.

Arne_Saknussem

Deleted User wrote: »

Inter was very much a Mourinho team. Madrid expedted perfection from the start. I don't see him falling out with the players at Arsenal other than the ones who can go. :P Also he went into Chelsea where no-one wanted him and managed a Europa League win.
As far as a steady hand who's been at the top level he'd be perfectly acceptable for me. Sort the defence in the first year (signing or two if necessary) and add some structure to midfield.

Yep, he's definitely a decent coach. I just get the feeling he's starting to be left behind the same way Wenger was left behind 10 years ago or so.

That Inter team won the treble a month before he took over & the league 5 times in a row. By Christmas he had them down to 6th! Madrid can be impossible if the wrong people dislike you i agree.

I just think he's too cautious to ever get close to winning a league, especially with the likes of Pep's City around. And don't forget the last time he won a top league title was 2004, same as Arsene.

Arne_Saknussem

Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

Yep, he's definitely a decent coach. I just get the feeling he's starting to be left behind the same way Wenger was left behind 10 years ago or so.

That Inter team won the treble a month before he took over & the league 5 times in a row. By Christmas he had them down to 6th! Madrid can be impossible if the wrong people dislike you i agree.

Have Inter done much since then? I think he timed it badly joining tbh.

I just think he's too cautious to ever get close to winning a league, especially with the likes of Pep's City around. And don't forget the last time he won a top league title was 2004, same as Arsene.

I'm happy for stability and improvement for next season. He can set a team up, he can get teams European silverware. His falling outs are generally for reasons that fans want. He's not perfect, I suppose there's an argument to be had if he's "elite" level but he's a safe pair of hands who knows how to win. He's not gonna drag us down the table and I think with a board backing him (in terms of what he wants rather than blowing money) he has another good run in him.

Arne_Saknussem

Deleted User wrote: »

Have Inter done much since then? I think he timed it badly joining tbh.
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They definitely had another title in them, finished up second but Benitez had lost too many points in the first half of the season. Juve took over after that.

I just think there's a severe bang of Louis van Gaal at United off him, if maybe to a sligtly lesser degree.

A safe choice is not going to close the gap on clubs that that can massively outspend you. You need someone who's slightly ahead of the curve like Wenger was when he came first.

Arne_Saknussem

Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

They definitely had another title in them, finished up second but Benitez had lost too many points in the first half of the season. Juve took over after that.

I just think there's a severe bang of Louis van Gaal at United off him, if maybe to a sligtly lesser degree.

A safe choice is not going to close the gap on clubs that that can massively outspend you. You need someone who's slightly ahead of the curve like Wenger was when he came first.

We've more money than Spurs and Liverpool and Chelsea seem to be tightening a bit too.

Arne_Saknussem

Deleted User wrote: »

We've more money than Spurs and Liverpool and Chelsea seem to be tightening a bit too.

I'd take Pochettino or Klopp in a heartbeat over Rafa.

Looper007

I definitely be in the No camp when it comes to Brendan Rogers, Eddie Howe, Sean Dyche and Rafa for me. None of those names make a statement of intent , Rafa and Brendan might get you top 4 and the odd cup run but none of those names will bring you titles imo. Also any ex great player as a manager is a big NO as well, on the coaching staff no problem.

I'm all in for Allegri or Simeone, think we could have a chance with Allegri but I don't see Simeone leaving Atletico until they sack him. Julian Nagelsmann would be a risk but he's done a great job at Hoffenheim. Leonardo Jardim from Monaco is another good bet. Carlo Ancelotti wouldn't be totally against it, would be a short impact kind of manager rather then long term.

Also interested in what players do you see on the way out come the summer, I do expect a mini exodus of the squad. Chambers, Mustafi, Cech, Bellerin (he will want a move), Ramsey (wouldn't be surprised if he won't sign a contract), Welbeck and Wilshire. Our squad come the first game of the PL will definitely have a new feel to it.

wandatowell

Arsenal XI: Ospina, Bellerin, Mustafi, Koscielny, Monreal, Xhaka, Elneny, Iwobi, Ramsey, Welbeck, Lacazette.

Subs: Macey, Mertesacker, Holding, Chambers, Maitland-Niles, Nelson, Aubameyang

Not sure on Aubameyang on the bench tbh

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

****ing Welbeck.

Royale with Cheese

I'd have thought Welbeck was out the door this summer, despite his mini resurgence. Will be interesting to see what the new manager does with him, might say a lot.

wandatowell

Thought Koscielny might have been rested for the game against Athletico

wandatowell

Plenty of empty seats again today

Royale with Cheese

I would fear what the likes of Griezmann and Costa will do to this defence.

wandatowell

Im not sure if I've ever seen a player as out of form as Mustafi.

jester77

Raniere in the stand

greendom

Not much of a tribute so far!

sonic85

How can Welbeck as a striker not be able to strike a ball cleanly and get it on target? What the fcuk does he do in training

dinorebel

Iwobi should be fined for impersonating a footballer

Skylinehead

Iwobi can't do anything right.

jester77

That didn't look too good

wandatowell

Doesn't look good for Elneny

greendom

Elneny's season over? Bad news for Thursday

jester77

Trying to walk it in

5star02707

Looks a bad injury from El neny. Has to be stretched off.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

If Welbeck made it as a professional footballer there's still hope of be becoming an airline pilot.

What an unbelievable dogsh1t player.

jester77

Get in, nice finish

Skylinehead

La Cabra strikes again!

wandatowell

Nacho, great finish.


Edit: Off his shin

jester77

wtf effort of a cross was that

wandatowell

Oh jesus, that cross from Iwobi lol

Royale with Cheese

Hunky Monster wrote: »

If Welbeck made it as a professional footballer there's still hope of be becoming an airline pilot.

What an unbelievable dogsh1t player.

I see your Danny Welbeck and I raise you Alex Iwobi.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

I see your Danny Welbeck and I raise you Alex Iwobi.

Check mate.

Am I doing it right?

Skylinehead

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Check mate.

Am I doing it right?

If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.

Quazzie

Normal service has resumed.

wandatowell

Burnley equalized. Race for 6th is still on

Quazzie

The truth of the matter is this. Danny Welbeck, Alex Iwobi, Ainsley Maitland Niles, Skodran Mustafi, and Laurent Koscielny (in his current guise) should be nowhere near a side that is looking to challenge for a league title. These are mid table teams, and some of them not even that.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

*sigh*

jester77

Finally, a bit of fire power

wandatowell

Iwobi off thank god. Awful.

jester77

Finally a shot from Welbeck

jester77

Lol, was it a shot or cross

wandatowell

Classic stuff lol