Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018

Pacifico

Great finish!

pudzey101

come on just another 2 aint much to ask for "!"!"!

KaiserGunner

Great finish alright. At least the fans who showed up tonight got to see some exhibition stuff here.

emmetlego

emmetlego wrote: »

What record is that TG?

7-0 against Slavia Prague in 2007 and also Standard Liege from 1993. Marlo (Eddie) is on now to run the BATE boys off the corners

batistuta9

Quazzie wrote: »

Isn't Jack also out of contract at the end of the year?

Yeah. Could be major rebuilding over the next couple of seasons.

Ozil, sanchez probably gone. Mert retiring, kos & monreal both 32. Cech pushing on.
Ramsey & welbeck will have 2 years left, could be flogged now if they don't sign.
Giroud, Walcott, ospina, eleney, coq will they hang around not playing?

Royale with Cheese

batistuta9 wrote: »

Yeah. Could be major rebuilding over the next couple of seasons.

Ozil, sanchez probably gone. Mert retiring, kos & monreal both 32. Cech pushing on.
Ramsey & welbeck will have 2 years left, could be flogged now if they don't sign.
Giroud, Walcott, ospina, eleney, coq will they hang around not playing?

And a new manager... surely.

batistuta9

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

And a new manager... surely.

Wouldn't bet on it.

KaiserGunner

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

And a new manager... surely.

That would make too much sense.

Ol' Donie

Are the highlights on anywhere?

6-0 win. No european win record equalled but still a comprehensive victory and a workout for the kids and second string.

batistuta9

Napoli,
spartak Moscow
Celtic
Dortmund
Nice
astana,
partizan Belgrade,
ludogorets,
aek Athens,
Lyon,
fc Copenhagen
Steaua Bucharest
Marseille
Ostersunds
Real sociedad

batistuta9

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Are the highlights on anywhere?

ITV later, or BT after 10

emmetlego

Enjoyed it. Glad it was over though!

Ol' Donie

I really hope Jack stays at the club.

I still believe at full fitness he's world class.

Arghus

Wilshire is a class footballer, if he hadn't been beset by injuries he'd be a lynchpin in the side.

Roddy23

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Are the highlights on anywhere?

I find Arsenalist a great site for good extended highlights a couple of hours after the matches finish.

http://arsenalist.com/f/2017-18/arsenal-vs-bate/arsenal-vs-bate-extended-highlights.html

Soups123

batistuta9 wrote: »

Napoli,
spartak Moscow
Celtic
Dortmund
Nice
astana,
partizan Belgrade,
ludogorets,
aek Athens,
Lyon,
fc Copenhagen
Steaua Bucharest
Marseille
Ostersunds
Real sociedad

This is by far the easiest route to next years champions league and a nice trophy to go with it

Quazzie

Soups123 wrote: »

This is by far the easiest route to next years champions league and a nice trophy to go with it

I'd still rather finish 3rd

batistuta9

Soups123 wrote: »

This is by far the easiest route to next years champions league and a nice trophy to go with it

That lists only the unseeded sides arsenal can play in the last 32 btw

I don't know, depends what team he plays now in the KOs. I wouldn't fancy the one that's played so far against some teams in it.

being in the EL hasn't really benefited the first in the league yet, maybe the lack of matches they played will show over xmas/later in the season.

Though when the EL comes back schedule wise it's difficult. Last 32 & 16 played over 4 weeks. The CL only plays last 16 in that time, alternating weeks for teams

batistuta9

Quazzie wrote: »

I'd still rather finish 3rd

Than what? win the EL and finish where?

Quazzie

batistuta9 wrote: »

Than what? win the EL and finish where?

I'd rather finish 3rd in the EPL than finish 6th and with the EL for example.

batistuta9

Quazzie wrote: »

I'd rather finish 3rd in the EPL than finish 6th and with the EL for example.

Why though? You just think a higher league position would would be a better season

What about 4th + EL or 3rd,
3rd + EL or 2nd?

Id take the EL over a top 4 finish.

Quazzie

batistuta9 wrote: »

Why though? You just think a higher league position would would be a better season

What about 4th + EL or 3rd,
3rd + EL or 2nd?

Id take the EL over a top 4 finish.

4th lands us in the qualifiers which is something i hate because it's always used as an excuse for leaving our signings till later in the transfer window. 3 gets us straight into the group, as does the EL. So either would do, but my personal preference would be to finish 3rd and an enjoyable run for the reserves in the EL.

Ol' Donie

Finishing 3rd over actually winning something?

That's mental.

DvB

Sod that, the EL may not be the big one but its a european trophy & we've only 2 of them in our history alongside a fair sprinkling of defeats in finals, so personally I'd love to see us win the EL... we simply cant win the league so would take the next best which for me would be the EL... anyone wanting 3rd ahead of that is, if I'm being honest, quite odd.

Personally I like seeing the team win stuff.

Quazzie

DvB wrote: »

Sod that, the EL may not be the big one but its a european trophy & we've only 2 of them in our history alongside a fair sprinkling of defeats in finals, so personally I'd love to see us win the EL... we simply cant win the league so would take the next best which for me would be the EL... anyone wanting 3rd ahead of that is, if I'm being honest, quite odd.

Personally I like seeing the team win stuff.

It's harder and more of an achievement to finish 3rd tho.

DvB

Quazzie wrote: »

It's harder and more of an achievement to finish 3rd tho.

I disagree.

Personally I think winning a european trophy is more of an achievement than finishing in any of the positions 2-4 in the league.

I respect you personally may feel a sense of achievement in the club finishing third, but I'd prefer to see us progress through the knock out stages & watch us lift a trophy.

Ol' Donie

Quazzie wrote: »

It's harder and more of an achievement to finish 3rd tho.

Man, nobody gave a f*ck when we finished second.

Why would anyone care if we finished third?

Quazzie

DvB wrote: »

I disagree.

Personally I think winning a european trophy is more of an achievement than finishing in any of the positions 2-4 in the league.

I respect you personally may feel a sense of achievement in the club finishing third, but I'd prefer to see us progress through the knock out stages & watch us lift a trophy.

Would you agree it's harder to finish third than win the EL tho?

DvB

Quazzie wrote: »

Would you agree it's harder to finish third than win the EL tho?

TBH No.
Other than city & possibly chelsea theres no team in the PL that I feel would generate a sense of achievement in finishing above them. Whereas if we managed to navigate our way through the knockout stages of a european trophy & ultimately win it, I'd consider that an achievement. Its an honour on the honours lise, the players get medals & we get as fans to celebrate that.
Personally I've never celebrated finishing anything other than 1st in the league.

BTW I'm not trying to be argumentative, & I fully respect you feel differently (& thats perfectly fine) I just genuinely prefer to see us win trophies...
I'm old enough to remember plenty of years when we didnt have the sense of entitlement that surrounds the fanbase now & when winning anything was a celebration. The PL & the top 4 has diluted many to that feeling of wanting to win competitions, but I'll take trophies over 2-4 any day. I don't care how rich the club is or what the balance sheet looks like ( I used to, but not anymore), I just want to be an old fashioned fan & see us win as much as possible before I die.

Quazzie

It might be because I put the EL on the same level as the League Cup.

I also reckon it's harder to get 3rd over winning the EL because if you look at the teams we've put over the last few games, we'd never get 3rd if we fielded teams like that as often in the league.

DvB

Quazzie wrote: »

It might be because I put the EL on the same level as the League Cup.

I also reckon it's harder to get 3rd over winning the EL because if you look at the teams we've put over the last few games, we'd never get 3rd if we fielded teams like that as often in the league.

I suspect the EL will get far more competitive from here on in. I wouldnt be as confident of even making the semi finals as some, one bad draw & we could easily be out before we know it.

Then we can concentrate on finishing 3rd

Skylinehead

Don't think there's much chance of us winning it unless we start putting out full strength teams when we play the likes of Atletico or Napoli.

marvin80

Skylinehead wrote: »

Don't think there's much chance of us winning it unless we start putting out full strength teams when we play the likes of Atletico or Napoli.

I'd presume and hope that's the plan.

Be nice to see some of the stronger teams meet each other and do us a favour along the way.
A nice, soft EL win like Uniteds last year be grand.

emmetlego

marvin80 wrote: »

A nice, soft EL win like Uniteds last year be grand.

Body blow. Love it!

4 handy wins now would nicely set us up for Christmas disappointment

L'prof

Deleted User wrote: »

4 handy wins now would nicely set us up for Christmas disappointment

Let’s just hope they beat Southampton first

Ardennes1944

We're playing in an hour...and this thread hasnt been posted in since yesterday afternoon :pac:

https://twitter.com/Arsenal/status/939812039400226816

Mert comes in

tayto lover

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

We're playing in an hour...and this thread hasnt been posted in since yesterday afternoon :pac:

It is probably because we're out of the race well before Christmas yet again.

Ardennes1944

tayto lover wrote: »

It is probably because we're out of the race well before Christmas yet again.

I know the reason, but even for us I thought it was poor

tayto lover

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

I know the reason, but even for us I thought it was poor

I'll watch it anyway but we're a Jekyll and Hyde team so anything could happen. Fifteen points behind City at this stage is poor and as Conte said i.e. if you have lost 4 in 16 games you're out of the race, we have lost 5 in 15. However football is football and I will watch it hoping we'll win and perform well.

tayto lover

Walcott not even making the bench again. I think he'll go in Jan unless he's happy with that and getting the handy money.

tayto lover

tayto lover wrote: »

Walcott not even making the bench again. I think he'll go in Jan unless he's happy with that and getting the handy money.

I think he has generally played well for us when called upon. Who knows if he might come back into the fold if we lose a couple of key players in January.

There might be an argument for Theo to go somewhere that he will be playing regularly in order to force his way into the England team for the World Cup, but I think it's too far down the pecking order to do that.

tayto lover

Basil3 wrote: »

I think he has generally played well for us when called upon. Who knows if he might come back into the fold if we lose a couple of key players in January.

There might be an argument for Theo to go somewhere that he will be playing regularly in order to force his way into the England team for the World Cup, but I think it's too far down the pecking order to do that.

Maybe. Can't see him making the England squad though.
#On another note it's amazing the way Ox leaving made no difference to the team. It's as if he was never here.

Quazzie

That didn't take long. Just about onside, and Mert not covering himself with glory there.

Soups123

Welcome back Mert

Soups123

Atleast they learned from last week with the quick start

Should be 2 down shocking at this level getting found out two weeks in a row first 5 minutes

Soups123

This is embarrassing again

I coach a junior team that would'nt make this many mistakes over a months worth of games

tayto lover

Goes to show just how shyte our defence is.