Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018

Skylinehead

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

How do Arsenal fans feel about sacrificing results and the medium term future of the club at the altar of Wenger's philosophy I wonder? Particularly when his implementation of that philosophy has ultimately failed?

Do you really wonder that? :pac:

LuckyLloyd

Skylinehead wrote: »

Do you really wonder that? :pac:

Well I don't know like? The one friend I have who is an Arsenal fan seemed happy to keep him on at the end of last year. For years there seemed to be a pride in how Wenger and the club were doing things on the pitch. This thread seems to have turned the other way, but is it true of Arsenal fans as a whole still packing out the Emirates?

That 03 / 04 team would kick you off the pitch if necessary and they always had a core of real steel about them. AND they played the best football in the league at the time. Arsenal version 2017 / 18 are so far removed from that.

Nemeses2050

We are apparently interested in Jonny Evans

greendom

Coquelin to West Ham for 10 million. I'd take that.

Ol' Donie

greendom wrote: »

Coquelin to West Ham for 10 million. I'd take that.

Nah, see if we can get them to take Walcott too.

The 10 mil is plenty.

Skylinehead

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Well I don't know like? The one friend I have who is an Arsenal fan seemed happy to keep him on at the end of last year. For years there seemed to be a pride in how Wenger and the club were doing things on the pitch. This thread seems to have turned the other way, but is it true of Arsenal fans as a whole still packing out the Emirates?

That 03 / 04 team would kick you off the pitch if necessary and they always had a core of real steel about them. AND they played the best football in the league at the time. Arsenal version 2017 / 18 are so far removed from that.

I think maybe there was a resignation that he'd stay at the end of the season, but look here - the overwhelming sentiment is that he should go at this point.

Nemeses2050

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Nah, see if we can get them to take Walcott too.

The 10 mil is plenty.

We should do a Jan Bundle sale of Welbeck/Walcott/Coquelin/Chambers/Iwobi for 25 mil

5star02707

There should be more in this list

Arne_Saknussem

In other news, it looks like Jenkinson will be recalled to ease the defensive woes.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5246371/Arsenal-end-Carl-Jenkinsons-loan-spell-Birmingham.html

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Hooray we're saved.

New signing etc.

tayto lover

Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

In other news, it looks like Jenkinson will be recalled to ease the defensive woes.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5246371/Arsenal-end-Carl-Jenkinsons-loan-spell-Birmingham.html

Ah brilliant. I'm totally heartened by this news.
Our problems are solved.

Someone at Arsenal is seriously taking the pis*.

emmetlego

Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

In other news, it looks like Jenkinson will be recalled to ease the defensive woes.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5246371/Arsenal-end-Carl-Jenkinsons-loan-spell-Birmingham.html

I got seriously annoyed, until I saw what paper are reporting it... Wouldn't give that the click it was looking for!

jonneymendoza

this had me in tears!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU990cmhH1o

Wheeliebin30

Sanchez on the verge of signing for city.

pudzey101

back after my 10 day ban fellow gooners !! which is a good thing cuz i would have been banned anyway over the previous result

pudzey101

pudzey101 wrote: »

back after my 10 day ban fellow gooners !! which is a good thing cuz i would have been banned anyway over the previous result

Often i feel following Arsenal is like Homer Simpson trying to keep the swear jar empty A difficult task... welcome back good sir

greendom

Did anyone actually read the article about Jenkinson?

It seems some can't wait for a bit of outrage, however unjustified

Wheeliebin30

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Sanchez on the verge of signing for city.

It was all setup so nicely for us in 2014 having won the cup and added Sanchez to the team with Ozil. Instead the next three seasons were pretty much fúcked away and two top class players were pretty much wasted. They deserve to be among the most decorated with top trophies but instead joined Loserdom.

Id swap all three cups for one league title in the same time period

wonga77

Seeing a few reports that Sanchez has agreed personal terms with City. I hope its done quick anyway and doesn't give the club the chance to say it happened too late in the window to rectify.
Not sure if it was discussed but was reading an article about Iwobi out on the town last Saturday night. Apparently he was out with friends and was refused entry to a nightclub so instead rented out an airbnb apartment and continued the party there. So much for professionalism with an fa cup tie a few hours later

5star02707

He has 2 options

-Signs for City in January, Arsenal get 20m and he gets 15m signing bonus
-Signs for free in July, he gets 30m signing bonus

https://twitter.com/DiMarzio

Quazzie

5star02707 wrote: »

He has 2 options

-Signs for City in January, Arsenal get 20m and he gets 15m signing bonus
-Signs for free in July, he gets 30m signing bonus

https://twitter.com/DiMarzio

So essentially he is prepared to pay 15M for a premier league medal and potentially a Champions League medal.

tayto lover

Does anyone think we'll spend money in the Jan transfer window?

DvB

I just want him gone at this stage. He was never going to re-sign so the sooner he's moved on the better.
I had hoped Ozil may go the other way & sign a new contract but thats looking increasingly unlikely as well so the club has a huge summer ahead.

I'm sorry to say I have zero faith that the squad will be reinforced/rebuilt adequately...

tayto lover

greendom wrote: »

Did anyone actually read the article about Jenkinson?

It seems some can't wait for a bit of outrage, however unjustified

I didn't. I didn't have to. Injured or fit he's useless and not the future for Arsenal.

greendom

tayto lover wrote: »

I didn't. I didn't have to. Injured or fit he's useless and not the future for Arsenal.

Yes and he wasn't being brought back to reinforce the defence but to be loaned out again as he wasn't getting game time with Birmingham

beer enigma

tayto lover wrote: »

Does anyone think we'll spend money in the Jan transfer window?

I'm sure we can find some 17 year old wonderkid somewhere

Ol' Donie

wonga77 wrote: »

Seeing a few reports that Sanchez has agreed personal terms with City. I hope its done quick anyway and doesn't give the club the chance to say it happened too late in the window to rectify.
Not sure if it was discussed but was reading an article about Iwobi out on the town last Saturday night. Apparently he was out with friends and was refused entry to a nightclub so instead rented out an airbnb apartment and continued the party there. So much for professionalism with an fa cup tie a few hours later

http://www.football365.com/news/wenger-iwobi-will-be-fined-after-sun-front-page

Fined me hole, he should be booted down to the reserves. In fact, he should f*ck off altogether.

That really riles me, I wouldn't do thay before a Sunday league game

Ol' Donie

DvB wrote: »

I just want him gone at this stage. He was never going to re-sign so the sooner he's moved on the better.
I had hoped Ozil may go the other way & sign a new contract but thats looking increasingly unlikely as well so the club has a huge summer ahead.

I'm sorry to say I have zero faith that the squad will be reinforced/rebuilt adequately...

Me too. He had many amazing moments, but I keep thinking back to the Leicester season. I don't think we lost a game while he was injured, then it fell apart when he came back.

UnknownSpecies

tayto lover wrote: »

Does anyone think we'll spend money in the Jan transfer window?

Please see my avatar.

liam7831

I see Iwobi is to be fined for being out at 3am the night before Forest game, he's useless anyway don't think it would affect his performance one way or the other

emmetlego

Why do people post stuff prior to reading what’s already been posted?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

beer enigma wrote: »

I'm sure we can find some 17 year old wonderkid somewhere

And loan him back instantly to his parent club, he might get some emirates cup action then the next season before being loaned out to a championship side before then being sold to a bottom ranking premier league side.

I'm extremely excited about this.

farna_boy

According to a report I read on Arseblog, Mert said that the cup game was the final chance for a number of players to prove themselves.

Hopefully he means Walcott and Welbeck because with the right guidance I could see some of the younger players improving.

Iwobi can't have helped his case though but if it means he is off the first team for the foreseeable, I won't be lamenting the loss.

Mr.Micro

tayto lover wrote: »

Does anyone think we'll spend money in the Jan transfer window?

No. Why break old habits, and upset a not winning formula. Lol

rodders999

Makes no difference whether Iwobi was up until 3am boozing or in bed with milk and cookies by 9pm.....he's gash either way.

Another in the ever increasing list of failures our so called manager insists on playing again and again and again.

emmetlego

Actually think Iwobi was a great prospect, but Wenger put waaaay too much faith in him instead of bedding him in slowly and has ruined him IMO

liam7831

emmetlego wrote:

Actually think Iwobi was a great prospect, but Wenger put waaaay too much faith in him instead of bedding him in slowly and has ruined him IMO

What a load of rubbish

FixitFelix

emmetlego wrote: »

Actually think Iwobi was a great prospect, but Wenger put waaaay too much faith in him instead of bedding him in slowly and has ruined him IMO

There's a difference between bedding him slowly and him having no ability to make right decision or pass the ball 10 yards, that's on the player. He doesn't have what it takes at highest level and below what Arsenal should be fielding

Roddy23

FixitFelix wrote: »

There's a difference between bedding him slowly and him having no ability to make right decision or pass the ball 10 yards, that's on the player. He doesn't have what it takes at highest level and below what Arsenal should be fielding

Disagree completely, he burst onto the scene at 19years of age and held his own in the camp Nou vs Barcelona, no mean feat. Also Alex Ferguson after his breakthrough season hailed him as a sensation. There is a good player in there but he's been thrown into the deep end at far too young an age. He's also battling with a severe lack of confidence, and constantly being played out of position doesn't help him either. Like the majority of our young players at this moment, being tasked with too much responsibility as the squad depth and size isn't there.

Hyzepher

For me, the problem with all these young promising players is not that they've been blooded too young or thrown in at the deep end, it's that they have been played without any coaching. It's as if AW lets players naturally express themselves on the pitch without too much restriction. Now that's fine if you are a world class player capable of making the correct decisions but for young or crap players this can lead to a lot of mistakes and bad performances.

tayto lover

Plenty of other teams with young lads who are playing well.
Martial and Rashford were thrown in early too and are performing well. Their coaches seemed to have known how to do it but again is it the coaches of the person over the coaches?

tayto lover

tayto lover wrote: »

Plenty of other teams with young lads who are playing well.
Martial and Rashford were thrown in early too and are performing well. Their coaches seemed to have known how to do it but again is it the coaches of the person over the coaches?

Every other coach seems to hold their players accountable at every other club. Our boys are allowed slip into a series of stinkers without seemingly anyone calling them to one side and telling them to get their shít together or get the fúck out.

tayto lover

Anyone know if the whole team were out partying with Iwobi? Seemed like it.

emmetlego

liam7831 wrote: »

emmetlego wrote:

Actually think Iwobi was a great prospect, but Wenger put waaaay too much faith in him instead of bedding him in slowly and has ruined him IMO

What a load of rubbish

Thanks for that contribution Eamon Dunphy.

emmetlego

Roddy23 wrote: »

Disagree completely, he burst onto the scene at 19years of age and held his own in the camp Nou vs Barcelona, no mean feat. Also Alex Ferguson after his breakthrough season hailed him as a sensation. There is a good player in there but he's been thrown into the deep end at far too young an age. He's also battling with a severe lack of confidence, and constantly being played out of position doesn't help him either. Like the majority of our young players at this moment, being tasked with too much responsibility as the squad depth and size isn't there.

This is a sensible post and I happen to agree fully. His early appearances were extremely encouraging and his form fell off the edge of a cliff and confidence shot to pieces by being overused while playing badly. I’m pinning this one on Wenger. The 2 protégés mentioned above were used sparingly at the start until they found consistency in good performances, unlike Iwobi who was flogged!

liam7831

emmetlego wrote:

Thanks for that contribution Eamon Dunphy.

No probs Stevie Wonder

Roddy23

Roddy23 wrote: »

Disagree completely, he burst onto the scene at 19years of age and held his own in the camp Nou vs Barcelona, no mean feat. Also Alex Ferguson after his breakthrough season hailed him as a sensation. There is a good player in there but he's been thrown into the deep end at far too young an age. He's also battling with a severe lack of confidence, and constantly being played out of position doesn't help him either. Like the majority of our young players at this moment, being tasked with too much responsibility as the squad depth and size isn't there.

Wholeheartedly agree with this. I actually wonder would Iwobi make a decent central striker? He's big, strong, and can score. He played very well against Argentina very recently and scored a brace. He's too young to write off. There is definitely more here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-q5klDAl4w

Quazzie

Deleted User wrote: »

Wholeheartedly agree with this. I actually wonder would Iwobi make a decent central striker? He's big, strong, and can score. He played very well against Argentina very recently and scored a brace. He's too young to write off. There is definitely more here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-q5klDAl4w

With the exception of the two goals, the rest of that video shows everything that is wrong with him. How many bad passes did he make? How many times did he blindly run into the opposition.

He offers us nothing, and shouldn't be near the first team. He's a homegrown Welbeck

emmetlego

Jesus that’s extremely harsh!

emmetlego

liam7831 wrote: »

emmetlego wrote:

Thanks for that contribution Eamon Dunphy.

No probs Stevie Wonder

You do know you can politely disagree with somebody without sounding like a knob? You should try it sometime.