Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018

Ol' Donie

Quazzie wrote: »

Jaysis you will always find a way to defend Wenger. :rolleyes:

He shouldn't need defending here. He got rid of a fella for being gutless. That's what he should do.

Quazzie

Ol' Donie wrote: »

He shouldn't need defending here. He got rid of a fella for being gutless. That's what he should do.

No. He was rightly called out publicly by his captain for not preparing properly for a game, and he was left to rot in the reserves by Mr. Arrogant himself.

If he was dropping players for being gutless, everyone who played that game would be dropped.

jonneymendoza

Sanchez piss off already and united. Stop ****ing about and cough up the money (and player)

jonneymendoza

jonneymendoza wrote: »

Sanchez piss off already and united. Stop ****ing about and cough up the money (and player)

Haven't you heard? United, arsenal and the players are all happy. It all hinges on whether Mhkitarian's agent says it happens.

Quazzie

jonneymendoza wrote: »

Sanchez piss off already and united. Stop ****ing about and cough up the money (and player)

The longer it runs on, the more chance of Real Madrid or PSG coming in with a last minute offer and giving us all the biggest laughs of our lives

UnknownSpecies

Latest from Ornhub. Of course it would be Raiola holding up the show..

https://twitter.com/bbcsport_david/status/954353693779951616

j14

Supposedly we have dropped our interest in Malcom and he now has a meeting with Spurs in London today.

Mr.Micro

Nemeses2050 wrote: »

I read that he was training with Academy lads...So he isn't in the Squad for the game I guess.

jonneymendoza wrote: »

Sanchez piss off already and united. Stop ****ing about and cough up the money (and player)

Good riddance. Maybe he will develop an attitude at Man U and decide not to play, like he did frequently with us. It will make no difference with us who we sign. Wenger floundering to replace Sanchez, like it matters. Wenger cannot manage the team, no surprises he can't even do the transfer targets. Pathetic.

tayto lover

Who's going to get Sanchez 80 goals in 3 years now?

Quazzie

tayto lover wrote: »

Who's going to get Sanchez 80 goals in 3 years now?

The same person who hot Henry's goals, and RvP's goals after him.

UnknownSpecies

Suppose that's why Aubameyang is being brought in.

tayto lover

Quazzie wrote: »

The same person who hot Henry's goals, and RvP's goals after him.

They have never been equaled afterwards.
Nobody has scored as many in as little time than Sanchez has.

UnknownSpecies

You're setting your standards impossibly high. The reality is Sanchez wants to leave and turned down a big contract from us. Also the reality is that we're likely bringing in a player who has scored 100 goals in the past 3 years. What more can you ask for?

irelandrover

tayto lover wrote: »

They have never been equaled afterwards.
Nobody has scored as many in as little time than Sanchez has.

In his last 3 years Henry got 25, 27 and 10 goals in the premier league. Arsenal scored 87, 68, and 63 in the league in those years. In the 3 seasons after he left they scored 83, 72, and 75.

Noone matches his goals directly but goals were spread more evenly across the team.

Quazzie

tayto lover wrote: »

They have never been equaled afterwards.
Nobody has scored as many in as little time than Sanchez has.

09/10 - 83
10/11 - 72
11/12 - 74
12/13 - 72
13/14 - 68
ARRIVAL OF SANCHEZ
14/15 - 71
15/16 - 65
16/17 - 77


We scored 214 goals in the 3 years before he came, and we've scored 213 in the 3 years he has been here. There hasn't been any extra goals because Sanchez has been in the team. Arsenal score the goals, not Sanchez

tayto lover

Quazzie wrote: »

09/10 - 83
10/11 - 72
11/12 - 74
12/13 - 72
13/14 - 68
ARRIVAL OF SANCHEZ
14/15 - 71
15/16 - 65
16/17 - 77


We scored 214 goals in the 3 years before he came, and we've scored 213 in the 3 years he has been here. There hasn't been any extra goals because Sanchez has been in the team. Arsenal score the goals, not Sanchez

Which individual has scored 80 goals in 3 years? That's what I asked.
Apart from his goals then the rest have been well below the averages you gave too.
It's no wonder he's petulant when you see it from his point of view. He's surrounded by poor players. That's why RVP, Nasri etc left too. No chance of winning the league with the players we had.
I'll agree with anyone who says Sanchez is greedy too. Footballers have relatively short careers and only have a short time to earn their pensions.

tayto lover

irelandrover wrote: »

In his last 3 years Henry got 25, 27 and 10 goals in the premier league. Arsenal scored 87, 68, and 63 in the league in those years. In the 3 seasons after he left they scored 83, 72, and 75.

Noone matches his goals directly but goals were spread more evenly across the team.[/QUOTE]

Not happening in the current squad, That's my point.

Ol' Donie

tayto lover wrote: »

Which individual has scored 80 goals in 3 years? That's what I asked.
Apart from his goals then the rest have been well below the averages you gave too.
It's no wonder he's petulant when you see it from his point of view. He's surrounded by poor players. That's why RVP, Nasri etc left too. No chance of winning the league with the players we had.
I'll agree with anyone who says Sanchez is greedy too. Footballers have relatively short careers and only have a short time to earn their pensions.

RVP left to win the league.

Every one of the rest of them followed the cash, including Sanchez.

tayto lover

Ol' Donie wrote: »

RVP left to win the league.

Every one of the rest of them followed the cash, including Sanchez.

RVP would not have won it here and that's for sure.
The others got both money and league titles. Win / win for them.

Quazzie

tayto lover wrote: »

Which individual has scored 80 goals in 3 years? That's what I asked.
Apart from his goals then the rest have been well below the averages you gave too.
It's no wonder he's petulant when you see it from his point of view. He's surrounded by poor players. That's why RVP, Nasri etc left too. No chance of winning the league with the players we had.
I'll agree with anyone who says Sanchez is greedy too. Footballers have relatively short careers and only have a short time to earn their pensions.

Over the 8 years I have quoted we have averaged 72.75 goals per season, both with and without Sanchez. Leicester are the only team to win the EPL in that time frame having scored less. One two occasions the winners have scored over 100 goals. We scored goals as a team. The stats show that. Evidence shows that pre-Sanchez we scored more goals than when he was here, so the evidence would suggest that we will continue to score the same amount after he leaves.

As for the paying the pension part. With the take home pay being reported for Sanchez he could afford to pay the pension of 20% of all recipients in Ireland. I think he'll do just fine when he retires.

tayto lover

Quazzie wrote: »

Over the 8 years I have quoted we have averaged 72.75 goals per season, both with and without Sanchez. Leicester are the only team to win the EPL in that time frame having scored less. One two occasions the winners have scored over 100 goals. We scored goals as a team. The stats show that. Evidence shows that pre-Sanchez we scored more goals than when he was here, so the evidence would suggest that we will continue to score the same amount after he leaves.

As for the paying the pension part. With the take home pay being reported for Sanchez he could afford to pay the pension of 20% of all recipients in Ireland. I think he'll do just fine when he retires.

So you think Iwobi and Welbeck will start scoring and make up for him If not then the new lad who comes in better hit the ground running. Sanchez knew they wouldn't score too many hence not passing to them imo. Iwobi 4 and Welbeck 4 last season. Sanchez 30 playing wide also.

irishman86

tayto lover wrote: »

So you think Iwobi and Welbeck will start scoring and make up for him If not then the new lad who comes in better hit the ground running. Sanchez knew they wouldn't score too many hence not passing to them imo. Iwobi 4 and Welbeck 4 last season. Sanchez 30 playing wide also.

There is never a excuse for not passing to team mates
Maybe Iwobi takes off now that the presence of toxic Sanchez is gone

tayto lover

irishman86 wrote: »

There is never a excuse for not passing to team mates
Maybe Iwobi takes off now that the presence of toxic Sanchez is gone

Ah heeooor.
At least his value is seen elsewhere. Genius is always recognised too late it seems.

Quazzie

tayto lover wrote: »

Ah heeooor.
At least his value is seen elsewhere. Genius is always recognised too late it seems.

He's 29, and has played for River Plate, Barcelona, and Arsenal. I think his "genius" is well recognized.

tayto lover

tayto lover wrote: »

Ah heeooor.
At least his value is seen elsewhere. Genius is always recognised too late it seems.

I don't think anyone would argue that Sanchez isn't a great player. I think we'll be fine without him, though.

tayto lover

Basil3 wrote: »

I don't think anyone would argue that Sanchez isn't a great player. I think we'll be fine without him, though.

Hopefully. I wouldn't expect anyone we have now to score 80 in 3 years though, so we'll have to buy a proven goalscorer. I also hope they're not lied to when signing i.e. that we will be buying top class to challenge for the title.

jonneymendoza

UnknownSpecies wrote: »

You're setting your standards impossibly high. The reality is Sanchez wants to leave and turned down a big contract from us. Also the reality is that we're likely bringing in a player who has scored 100 goals in the past 3 years. What more can you ask for?

What big contract? We only offered him the same as before plus 1p

DvB

DvB wrote: »

So its basically a mickey waving contest... FFS:mad: Its simple, dont tell any incoming players what Ozil or anyone else earns.... its not rocket science FFS.

I always suspect that players, just like us in the real world dont go around comparing payslips so its all media hyped garbage IMO.

They may have the same agents though or agents feeding agents info

jonneymendoza

jonneymendoza wrote: »

What big contract? We only offered him the same as before plus 1p

I'd say we offered him about double what he's on.....unfortunately United can offer double that.

jonneymendoza

Deleted User wrote: »

DvB wrote: »

So its basically a mickey waving contest... FFS:mad: Its simple, dont tell any incoming players what Ozil or anyone else earns.... its not rocket science FFS.

I always suspect that players, just like us in the real world dont go around comparing payslips so its all media hyped garbage IMO.

They may have the same agents though or agents feeding agents info

Maybe

jonneymendoza

Basil3 wrote: »

jonneymendoza wrote: »

What big contract? We only offered him the same as before plus 1p

I'd say we offered him about double what he's on.....unfortunately United can offer double that.

Yea it was around 220k

tayto lover

Basil3 wrote: »

I'd say we offered him about double what he's on.....unfortunately United can offer double that.

Of course players will go from one club to another for more money just like Rooney, Messi, Ronaldo, Bale etc. As Neil Diamond sang "Money Talks".

omega man

Sanchez was still training with Arsenal today. Wonder will he be in the squad or even start tomorrow?

What are the odds on him staying and not signing anyone either??!!

tayto lover

omega man wrote: »

Sanchez was still training with Arsenal today. Wonder will he be in the squad or even start tomorrow?

What are the odds on him staying and not signing anyone either??!!

Would any of us be surprised?

KaiserGunner

omega man wrote: »

Sanchez was still training with Arsenal today. Wonder will he be in the squad or even start tomorrow?

What are the odds on him staying and not signing anyone either??!!

I wouldn’t even have him in the squad tomorrow. He has one foot out the door and is of no use to us. Knowing Wenger though, he will probably put him straight into the starting lineup.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

omega man wrote: »

Sanchez was still training with Arsenal today. Wonder will he be in the squad or even start tomorrow?

What are the odds on him staying and not signing anyone either??!!

It should be like a 1% chance this would happen but with Arsenal I'd rate it more than 20%... an utter shambles of a club. GUARENTEED we will mess up the mikh and abum transfer too.

Like I always say with this club, I'll believe it when I see it. Never has a club and a manager talked so much SHÏTE...the smug look on wengers face when he's answering questions on transfers, he hasn't a notion of what's happening, he just glad the questions aren't about him and his fücking shït performance as a manager.

tayto lover

KaiserGunner wrote: »

I wouldn’t even have him in the squad tomorrow. He has one foot out the door and is of no use to us. Knowing Wenger though, he will probably put him straight into the starting lineup.

So you won't go to Ireland matches if Martin O'Neill is in charge then

Gizmo55

KaiserGunner wrote: »

I wouldn’t even have him in the squad tomorrow. He has one foot out the door and is of no use to us. Knowing Wenger though, he will probably put him straight into the starting lineup.

I could see the deal going tits up. Stick him in the starting line up I say. May as well get our 20 million worth.

brianregan09

Why in the name of god would they play him and risk him getting injured

Gizmo55

brianregan09 wrote: »

Why in the name of god would they play him and risk him getting injured

It’s the Arsenal way.

brianregan09

Why because he did it once that time with ox ??? Can't remember it happening before that

Gizmo55

brianregan09 wrote: »

Why because he did it once that time with ox ??? Can't remember it happening before that

I’m joking of course, but I trust nothing he does these days.

Les incompetents.

greendom

Nasri's last game for Arsenal was against City. He had a great game.

Haul Alexis off at half time if he's having a stinker. But I'm sure he'd want to impress in his last game for the club and his team mates will forgive and forget for his last game.

The bottom line though is if he picks up a major injury the window would be scuppered so he shouldn't play tomorrow

Wheeliebin30

Arsenal never fail in exceeding arsenals ridiculous ways.

tayto lover

Anyone else envisage the whole deal breaking down?

ezekel

If it hasn't broken down already, its all moving to slow for me the usual smoke and mirrors from Wenger

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

tayto lover wrote: »

Anyone else envisage the whole deal breaking down?

Yes. But does it matter to me? Not one bit. We're not winning anything, we're not qualifying for anything except the europa crap. What's 20 or 30 million anyway, it's peanuts to us, will it be spent either way, who knows!? We're being fed lies yet again and we're stupid to fall for it. What does it matter to me if Sanchez sits on the bench for a few months?

Wengers smug smile is nothing new to me, he's had that 1000 times before when we bought nobody, or a goalkeeper or sanogo.

I'm not sure how quickly people want the transfer to take place, but it's hardly a straightforward one. I don't know why we should be bending over backwards to get it over the line for when Mourinho says so, either.

UnknownSpecies

UnknownSpecies wrote: »

Latest from Ornhub. Of course it would be Raiola holding up the show..

https://twitter.com/bbcsport_david/status/954353693779951616

That tweet states everything that is wrong with football today. Surely to fúck it should be up to one man and one man only if he is to move to London to a mediocre club and uproot his family in the process and not his fúcking agent?

Raiola is poison

greendom

It matters to me. I want to watch Arsenal winning and playing good football. The 2 ex Dortmund boys will bring us that. Their acquisition may encourage Ozil to sign a new contract and bring in new players.

I will always want the best for Arsenal.