Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018

rodders999

I was only looking at the Ligue 1 goal stats the other day (I'm a saddo) and was shocked to see that Mbappe has only 9 goals so far this season.

And that's with him playing in by far the best team in what essentially is an extremely weak league - Cavani has 20 goals already which is a joke. Now I'm not writing off the lad, he's barely started his career but there was a massive amount of hype about him at Monaco in what was essentially his break out season so he's a wait and see as far as I'm concerned.

Skylinehead

rodders999 wrote: »

I was only looking at the Ligue 1 goal stats the other day (I'm a saddo) and was shocked to see that Mbappe has only 9 goals so far this season.

And that's with him playing in by far the best team in what essentially is an extremely weak league - Cavani has 20 goals already which is a joke. Now I'm not writing off the lad, he's barely started his career but there was a massive amount of hype about him at Monaco in what was essentially his break out season so he's a wait and see as far as I'm concerned.

He's been on the wing and has a ton of assists. He's playing really well from what I've seen.

AdamD

Mbappe is the furthest thing from wait and see. Watch him play, hes incredible.

greendom

rodders999 wrote: »

I was only looking at the Ligue 1 goal stats the other day (I'm a saddo) and was shocked to see that Mbappe has only 9 goals so far this season.

And that's with him playing in by far the best team in what essentially is an extremely weak league - Cavani has 20 goals already which is a joke. Now I'm not writing off the lad, he's barely started his career but there was a massive amount of hype about him at Monaco in what was essentially his break out season so he's a wait and see as far as I'm concerned.

he's just turned 19. Huge weight put on his shoulders. He has to share goal scoring duties with the much more established Neymar and Cavani. This also means he rarely plays central. He is keeping the likes of Di Maria and Lucas Moura out of the first team. This guy is going to be a World beater.

Not sure there are too many 17/18 year olds with 10 goals in the Champions League.

rodders999

Skylinehead wrote: »

He's been on the wing and has a ton of assists. He's playing really well from what I've seen.

Yeah and as I say I'm not writing him off but when you see the likes of Mad Mario already on 12 goals for a mediocre Nice side it tells you all you need to know about the overall quality of that league.

I take your point about him being played on he wing though, however I was still surprised to see he'd only managed to bag 9 goals out of PSG's 68 so far in the league.

emmetlego

Sorry rodders, you're on your own with that opinion. I've watched him a few times this season, he is sensational, and one of the reasons they have such a high goal tally so far, he's pulling defences asunder!

rodders999

Just expressing a word of caution on the lad is all.....remember both Giroud and Lacazette won the golden boot in Ligue 1 in recent seasons......just sayin'

beer enigma

Interesting piece on Talksport, some guy (allegedly with contacts ahem :rolleyes:) saying that the sticking point on the Auba deal is that Arsenal want a wholly cash deal and hold onto Giroud whereas Dortmund are pushing the price in an attempt to get Giroud included.

brianregan09

Last call for questions on tonight's podcast guys

physioman

beer enigma wrote: »

Interesting piece on Talksport, some guy (allegedly with contacts ahem :rolleyes:) saying that the sticking point on the Auba deal is that Arsenal want a wholly cash deal and hold onto Giroud whereas Dortmund are pushing the price in an attempt to get Giroud included.

I hope giroud doesn't go. He's a great aerial threat. Although Monreal seems to have taken on this role and has been excellent the last few games. I pity Lacazette. Not seeing his potential. Last night there were 2 on him and difficult to score but albeit lucky he set up the second goal. Not always a fan of ozil but he looked a world class player last night. Good at making room for himself and some great passing. Just missing another creative player to feed the ball into lacazette. On a side note, Marcos Alonso looked like a young David hasselhoff with his hair do.

emmetlego

I'm not worried about Laccazette at all. Last night he was up against the best defence in the premier league and while he found it tough, he never stopped and eventually (luckily too, granted) got an assist. His overall play and link up play has been very good all season, yes I know he's had a dry patch, as all strikers do, but I think he's a real baller.

And I thought Monreal probably deserved his MOTM, but for me, the classiest player on the pitch was Ozil. He's banished the "doesn't play well against the top teams" tag. He was sublime last night.

speedboatchase

beer enigma wrote: »

Interesting piece on Talksport, some guy (allegedly with contacts ahem :rolleyes:) saying that the sticking point on the Auba deal is that Arsenal want a wholly cash deal and hold onto Giroud whereas Dortmund are pushing the price in an attempt to get Giroud included.

This should be a very simple deal. Giroud needs regular games in a WC year, which he won't get unless we loan him out. Maybe the rumours about his wife being opposed to moving from London are true.

beer enigma

speedboatchase wrote: »

This should be a very simple deal. Giroud needs regular games in a WC year, which he won't get unless we loan him out. Maybe the rumours about his wife being opposed to moving from London are true.

I suspect as a cash deal this would have been done a while ago, but Dortmund have made it clear enough that they want Giroud as part of the deal. So its either that Arsenal don't want Giroud included, or Giroud doesn't want to go (or both) and I feel Dortmund are just upping the price to force Arsenal into a corner. Talk now that the final deal may involve a loan deal for Giroud rather than a transfer which could work for everyone.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

We're not getting aubamayang.

We're never gonna offer what the club want, IF we do the lads a mercenary, he was fishing for a move to china or one of the Arab emirates last year, that makes him worse than a van Persie, worse than a nasri and even worse than Adebayor.

He's money mad, what's he gonna be paid at Arsenal...half what united/city/psg will pay is what. An absolute mercenary if ever I saw one of the same ilk as Pogba. Just using the media circus to his advantage. He an just ride out his contract like Sanchez and go for free to one of those clubs for double wages. It's not happening. He's not moving for football reasons.

He's never joining.

Quote me on this 1st of Feb.

Arne_Saknussem

Nothing like a good win to get the positive vibes flowing

speedboatchase

German press seem to think Auba deal has stalled, could collapse: http://sportwitness.co.uk/germany-auba-arsenal-stalled-bvb-increasingly-angry-english-club/

We had this handed to us on a plate. Same old, same old.

wonga77

speedboatchase wrote: »

German press seem to think Auba deal has stalled, could collapse: http://sportwitness.co.uk/germany-auba-arsenal-stalled-bvb-increasingly-angry-english-club/

We had this handed to us on a plate. Same old, same old.

I said something similar 2 nights ago and was told to relax. Just pay the fee and get it done. Or at the very least go close to the valuation that Dortmund have set. The board have no problem ripping off fans every week with the ticket prices but are very miserly in the market. It appears that no other club is in for Aubameyang so your right, this is being handed to us on a plate and they seem to still be making hard work of it

emmetlego

Well, with no definitive news today, you could safely say this has collapsed. But I’ll wait until end of day!

tayto lover

Well if it doesn't go through then both clubs will be happy.
One club doesn't want to sell, the other doesn't want to spend.

We are not giving them a chance to get in a replacement anyway, we were too late coming to the table.

If it doesn't go through then we are weaker than ever with 3 players, 1 world class, leaving and only 1 good player coming in.

emmetlego

The lads on AFTV crack me up sometimes. One of them referred to Sanchez leaving as Alexit! Brilliant!

Wheeliebin30

Seriously a joke we sell our best goal scorer and replaced him with a united reject.

Hating the club more and more everyday.

Quazzie

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Seriously a joke we sell our best goal scorer and replaced him with a united reject.

Hating the club more and more everyday.

U ok hun? xoxoxox

Skylinehead

Ok, now that Dortmund are seemingly annoyed at our glacial negotiations, so am I. Get it done ffs

Wheeliebin30

Quazzie wrote: »

U ok hun? xoxoxox

Pm me chix xxx

beer enigma

Quazzie wrote: »

U ok hun? xoxoxox

For a few days there I was seriously worried about the positivity running through this thread, such a relief to see we are back to our depressed downtrodden state Phew

brianregan09

It'll happen lads relax

MonsterCookie

Thought sead was looking chunkier than usual last night; has he put on weight or what?

Ol' Donie

brianregan09 wrote: »

It'll happen lads relax

B...but that report...on "Sportwitness". It's all over!

*sobs*

beer enigma

brianregan09 wrote: »

It'll happen lads relax

I think everything is being done to make it happen, but I honestly believe the issue is Giroud and whether he wants to move. His wife allegedly was behind him not moving to Everton. BVB are throwing a ridiculous figure at Arsenal, 70 mill ?, which they know we wont (and shouldn't pay) because they want Giroud in some form so trying to force us into a corner and then throwing 'angry club' statements ate the press.

Loan deal would work as he will get WC football and we hopefully will get him back, but if Mrs G says no, then I think its on wobbly ground.

jester77

Is 31st the last day of this drama? This transfer window should be removed altogether... once a year is enough to deal with this

x PyRo

https://twitter.com/ElNennyM/status/956561273646469120

Give him a contract for life.

emmetlego

x PyRo wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ElNennyM/status/956561273646469120

Give him a contract for life.

There’s a few sly digs aimed at Alexis in a lot of the players social media. Very noticeable how many of them wished him well too (1), unlike Theo and Coq who were smothered with affection by nearly all the players. Looks like he really was a divisive character.

And before we get the “he’s different because he’s a winner”, remember, there are a few guys in that dressing room that are World Cup winners, and they are very respected in that dressing room.

Elneny looking like your man from Rage Against The Machine in that picture:D

wonga77

emmetlego wrote: »

There’s a few sly digs aimed at Alexis in a lot of the players social media. Very noticeable how many of them wished him well too (1), unlike Theo and Coq who were smothered with affection by nearly all the players. Looks like he really was a divisive character.

And before we get the “he’s different because he’s a winner”, remember, there are a few guys in that dressing room that are World Cup winners, and they are very respected in that dressing room.

Yeah it's interesting alright. Did any player actually post a good luck message to Sanchez?

Skylinehead

wonga77 wrote: »

Yeah it's interesting alright. Did any player actually post a good luck message to Sanchez?

Mustafi I think, but struggling to find others...

Awesomeness

Skylinehead wrote: »

Mustafi I think, but struggling to find others...

I dont think mustafi did. Not on his twitter or Insta anyhow

tayto lover

I don'r believe Sanchez will miss most of them anyway. They weren't up to his standard.

jonneymendoza

tayto lover wrote: »

I don'r believe Sanchez will miss most of them anyway. They weren't up to his standard.

They were all rubbish and deserved to be booted rather then Sanchez

tayto lover

jonneymendoza wrote: »

They were all rubbish and deserved to be booted rather then Sanchez

As Mourinho said there on tv, "if you want the best, you go and buy the best".

Ol' Donie

tayto lover wrote: »

As Mourinho said there on tv, "if you want the best, you go and buy the best".

He bought Mikhitarian, right?

emmetlego

I'm interested in this.

As we don't know what exactly went on in the dressing room, we can just speculate. However, especially in team sport, there is no one player bigger than the team, that is a given IMO. If he was as destructive to team spirit as is being suggested, then no matter how good a player he was, he is no good to the unit. To borrow a phrase, one player, does not a team make.

Look, we all saw how brilliant this lad was for us, but there were times when he made obvious decisions to not pass to certain players in better positions than him. Even if they were most likely to hit it wide etc, surely a team player would occasionally pick out Ramsey or whoever instead of ignoring them (I picked Ramsey as he was the most obvious that he ignored).

Again, all pretty speculative, because none of us were actually in the dressing room. But if it is as we suspect, then I'm glad to see the back of him!

Oh, I meant to add, I saw it reported that Mustafi had wished him well, but cannot see it anywhere on his social pages. Maybe he did, then removed it... More speculation!

MurDawg

Ol' Donie wrote: »

He bought Mikhitarian, right?

No.

tayto lover

emmetlego wrote: »

I'm interested in this.

As we don't know what exactly went on in the dressing room, we can just speculate. However, especially in team sport, there is no one player bigger than the team, that is a given IMO. If he was as destructive to team spirit as is being suggested, then no matter how good a player he was, he is no good to the unit. To borrow a phrase, one player, does not a team make.

Look, we all saw how brilliant this lad was for us, but there were times when he made obvious decisions to not pass to certain players in better positions than him. Even if they were most likely to hit it wide etc, surely a team player would occasionally pick out Ramsey or whoever instead of ignoring them (I picked Ramsey as he was the most obvious that he ignored).


Again, all pretty speculative, because none of us were actually in the dressing room. But if it is as we suspect, then I'm glad to see the back of him!

Oh, I meant to add, I saw it reported that Mustafi had wished him well, but cannot see it anywhere on his social pages. Maybe he did, then removed it... More speculation!

Apparently the wee disagreement started in the dressingroom after a match at Crystal Palace where Sanchez made some gestures towards certain players during the game who he felt were letting themselves be easily pushed about by Palace. They took exception to him and expressed their feelings and he had his say. Maybe the manager should have been doing the the shouting from the sideline.

wonga77

Mustafi did post something on insta alright. It's interesting if he did remove it. I was reading earlier that sanchez didn't get on with Ramsey and Giroud in particular. Even when the likes of van Persie left I don't think there was any badwill from players. The next meeting of the 2 teams will tell alot as the media seem to have picked up on it

Ol' Donie

MurDawg wrote: »

No.

Who did then?

As I understand it, he took over in May, Mkitarian signed in July.

KaiserGunner

tayto lover wrote: »

As Mourinho said there on tv, "if you want the best, you go and buy the best".

He knows how to sell the best too, De Bruyne, Salah, Mata etc.

j14

According to Sky Giroud is going nowhere in the window.

Just means we have to stump up the cash for Aubameyang.

speedboatchase

j14 wrote: »

According to Sky Giroud is going nowhere in the window.

Just means we have to stump up the cash for Aubameyang.

The deal is dead. Clearly an Arsenal source letting Dortmund know that we won't do a swap deal, and we won't go near their valuation. So it's dead.

tayto lover

KaiserGunner wrote: »

He knows how to sell the best too, De Bruyne, Salah, Mata etc.

Maybe the other players weren't getting along with them.
Wish we had bought some of them like KDB.

beer enigma

j14 wrote: »

According to Sky Giroud is going nowhere in the window.

Just means we have to stump up the cash for Aubameyang.

Which is why the fee was crazy as BVB wanted Giroud. If Mrs G wasnt going to Everton she wasn't going to Dortmund.

I'd say it's £60m or deal over