Hey Leo? Why do I bother getting up in the morning?

Kermit.de.frog

MyStubbleItches wrote: »

Go back and read my first post where I specifically refer to the scroungers. People genuinely looking for work I have no problem with, they should be given more if you ask me. What's the betting the unemployment figure won't drop below the 139000 you mention?

This is the problem. When you create a welfare system that goes from basic protection to an actual sustainable lifestyle choice (particularly for those brought up in "welfare families" whose ambitions and desires are by design of their upbringing very modest anyway) it is much more difficult to get to full employment.

This also manisfests itself in the welfare cliffs - the loss of welfare on a treshold of income.

Money for nothing should end in this society if the government is serious about actually encouraging and helping people achieve in their lives.

You can be on the dole from the age of 18 for the rest of your life in this country. That should not be acceptable in society.

...And Justice

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

It works so well in this country too... we went from keeping up with our neighbours in the "Good Times" to worrying about what they were getting/getting away with in the Recession.

If it's not the Unemployed, it's the Public vs Private Sector, Union vs non-Union workers, Dublin vs Rural.. and round and round it goes.

Of course, while the "ordinaries" squabble over the scraps, the real waste, corruption and incompetence can continue! :rolleyes:

Ivan Yeats said it well on the radio yesterday. "There's no forward planning in Ireland and never has, we plan for four years at a time And don't want to upset anyone for the ballot box". Which makes me think the unemployed vote is bigger and more influential than "official statistics" say.

...And Justice

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

This is the problem. When you create a welfare system that goes from basic protection to an actual sustainable lifestyle choice (particularly for those brought up in "welfare families" whose ambitions and desires are by design of their upbringing very modest anyway) it is much more difficult to get to full employment.

This also manisfests itself in the welfare cliffs - the loss of welfare on a treshold of income.

Money for nothing should end in this society if the government is serious about actually encouraging and helping people achieve in their lives.

You can be on the dole from the age of 18 for the rest of your life in this country. That should not be acceptable in society.

Stop talking sense for fcuk sake..

maryishere

...And Justice wrote: »

Ivan Yeats said it well on the radio yesterday. "There's no forward planning in Ireland and never has, we plan for four years at a time And don't want to upset anyone for the ballot box".

Indeed. And as those people from the Bundesbank said, the Irish are not capable of running themselves.

Hitman3000

maryishere wrote:

Indeed. And as those people from the Bundesbank said, the Irish are not capable of running themselves.

They were quite happy though for the Irish to take the hit for the Euro though.

maryishere

They are in it for themselves, for the good of their own economy, of course they were quite happy for the Irish to take the hit for the Euro.

Hitman3000

maryishere wrote:

They are in it for themselves, for the good of their own economy, of course they were quite happy for the Irish to take the hit for the Euro.

So why give credit to any comment made by them? Do you hate your own country so much? ( I'm assuming you're Irish).

maryishere

Hitman3000 wrote: »

So why give credit to any comment made by them? Do you hate your own country so much? ( I'm assuming you're Irish).

I am Irish and love Ireland but that has nothing to do with evaluating some others comments. For example, do you remember in early 2001 the German finance minister Mr Hans Eichel, who criticised the Irish Government for cutting taxes and increasing spending in the face of high inflation, and other decisions our government made which led to the bubble and subsequent recession.

...And Justice

Hitman3000 wrote: »

They were quite happy though for the Irish to take the hit for the Euro though.

Yeah but, you have to suck it up. I remember getting a €20k reduction in my salary and the pension being removed. Sure it was grand for people in my extended family that just lived it up while I was struggling. This is the whole finger pointing thing. I did that for years when I was stuck for cash.

...And Justice

maryishere wrote: »

I am Irish and love Ireland but that has nothing to do with evaluating some others comments. For example, do you remember in early 2001 the German finance minister Mr Hans Eichel, who criticised the Irish Government for cutting taxes and increasing spending in the face of high inflation, and other decisions our government made which led to the bubble and subsequent recession.

Just if you haven't heard there's a new bubble, it's selective to people that make a few bob, but still. I was offered €430k for my house 15 minutes from Dublin. I paid nothing like that for it.

Hitman3000

maryishere wrote:

I am Irish and love Ireland but that has nothing to do with evaluating some others comments. For example, do you remember in early 2001 the German finance minister Mr Hans Eichel, who criticised the Irish Government for cutting taxes and increasing spending in the face of high inflation, and other decisions our government made which led to the bubble and subsequent recession.

So you missed all the turmoil on the international stage. You wish solely to lay the blame at the feet of the Irish government? Odd a lot of German banks were happy to lend to a country and populace whom you're happy to accept cannot govern themselves. I've been to Germany several times. Prefer Ireland and our problems any day of the week.

McMurphy

...And Justice wrote: »

Yeah but, you have to suck it up. I remember getting a €20k reduction in my salary and the pension being removed. Sure it was grand for people in my extended family that just lived it up while I was struggling. This is the whole finger pointing thing. I did that for years when I was stuck for cash.

I just looked at what i was paying myself back in 2011 v now.

Jesus.

_Kaiser_

Hitman3000 wrote: »

They were quite happy though for the Irish to take the hit for the Euro though.

Which actually proved their point when you think about it.

Feisar

myshirt wrote: »

Ah, the mystery of morning wood, did they ever figure out why that occurs?

A throwback to caveman times, ya got up in the morning to go hunting mammoths. It helped to have the old T levels up.

McMurphy

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

When Leo mentioned early risers he was talking about the morning horn. He's probably bumming as we speak while you go out and pay his 20,000 rise and his buddies 5,000 rise.



Mod: Short holiday taken

Probably my most favourite post on boards in years.

It's wrong, but its wrong in a harmless way, and was genuinely side splittingly funny. I'd thank it again if I could.

I still literally LOL when I re-read it.

Idbatterim

...And Justice wrote: »

Ivan Yeats said it well on the radio yesterday. "There's no forward planning in Ireland and never has, we plan for four years at a time And don't want to upset anyone for the ballot box". Which makes me think the unemployed vote is bigger and more influential than "official statistics" say.

No Its worse than that. They plan one year at a time, give away as much as possible. Who knows when the next election might be ... pathetic!