UEFA Nations League

osarusan

Beasty wrote: »

Thought they had changed the rule last season - if it's a penalty no need to send off.

Only if there is an attempt to make a legal tackle, which pulling somebody back isn't.

Mr.Nice Guy

Can't tackle any more. Nothing wrong with that from Maguire.

blueser

Beasty wrote: »

Thought they had changed the rule last season - if it's a penalty no need to send off. Having said that he was very lucky either way

Nope. That was a red card.

blueser

That's another poor decision. Definite yellow card for Busquets, grabbing Sterling around the waist and pulling him back.

SlickRic

Raheem Sterling has turned into some player.

blueser

SlickRic wrote: »

Raheem Sterling has turned into some player.

He's been fantastic for us, but the pressure of playing for England seemed to badly affect him. Hopefully, tonight will be the kick up the hole he needs on England duty.

lawred2

This has been a great watch.

Game being played at some pace with huge commitment from both sides.

Some change from the Aviva

SlickRic

At what point did the 'waving the imaginary card' become ok and not a bookable offence.

3 of them charging at the ref waving them, plus the Spanish bench waving away.

lawred2

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Can't tackle any more. Nothing wrong with that from Maguire.

Well he was off the ground and out of control

But a decade ago that was John Terry's stock in trade

SlickRic

England far, far, far too deep here.

They're lucky that Rashford and Sterling are playing absolute blinders making things out of nothing as it's cleared.

lawred2

SlickRic wrote: »

At what point did the 'waving the imaginary card' become ok and not a bookable offence.

3 of them charging at the ref waving them, plus the Spanish bench waving away.

Hmmmm

I think Spain can feel hard done by where the officiating is concerned

irishguitarlad

Morata has some serious bad luck.

lawred2

This Rashford lad is handy. Who does he play for?

irishman86

Pickford getting away with poor keeping there

blueser

SlickRic wrote: »

At what point did the 'waving the imaginary card' become ok and not a bookable offence.

3 of them charging at the ref waving them, plus the Spanish bench waving away.

I hate seeing that sh1te.

Mr.Nice Guy

This is the biggest result of Southgate's reign. Beats anything done at the World Cup.

DJIMI TRARORE

It's hard to believe that this and Ireland v Denmark is the same sport,really great 90mins

dr.kenneth noisewater

eagle eye wrote:

In bigger news Luxembourg are 1-0 up on San Marino. David Turpel with the goal.

3-0 now, looks like they'll top their group as well which is great for them

blueser

DJIMI TRARORE wrote: »

It's hard to believe that this and Ireland v Denmark is the same sport,really great 90mins

Not a fair comparison, is it? Spain and even England are several steps above Ireland and/or the Danes.

irishguitarlad

Should have been 3-3 with that penalty decision.

Agent Coulson

Well that ref can't be called a homer anyway.

Take nothing away from England the were electric in the first half.


However the ref was terrible in that second half.

Esse85

Something very likeable about England and Southgate. Refreshing to see the manager give youth a chance rather than picking the lads with the big ego's.

Mr.Nice Guy

Great result for Southgate which will give him and his side a lot of confidence for the future. Spain can consider themselves unlucky as they didn't have a lot of breaks in this game, but when you concede 3 goals in the first 45 minutes you can't have too many complaints.

Very enjoyable match.

LuckyGent88

Really enjoyable game. One of the better international games. Love the media going overboard on that English performance and win.

Spain had a few chances before England got there goals. Well created and taken it must be said. Then Spain battered England for the second half and had a stone wall penalty turned down.

Hopefully Ireland can play with high intensity tomorrow and we have an up tempo game

Mr.Nice Guy

Bosnia have beaten NI 2-0 thanks to two Dzeko goals. He's now scored 55 goals in 97 games. That's some record.

Necro

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Hopefully Ireland can play with high intensity tomorrow and we have an up tempo game

Sorry, but....

citytillidie

eagle eye wrote: »

In bigger news Luxembourg are 1-0 up on San Marino.
David Turpel with the goal.

Not big news at all since Luxembourg are top of there league

TheRiverman

I like Mick McCarthy as an analyst.

Johner

Luxembourg are a decent side, they've won a lot of games in the last few years. They have wins against Hungary, Georgia, Moldova and Belarus and draws with France, Senegal and Bulgaria.

blueser

I knew I'd seen Pickford somewhere before.....

johnnyryan89

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Bosnia have beaten NI 2-0 thanks to two Dzeko goals. He's now scored 55 goals in 97 games. That's some record.

As good as relegated to League C, they need Bosnia to beat Austria by a few goals and then beat Austria themselves. Third seeds is still a good position for them seeing as where Michael O'Neill has taken them from to where they've been the last two years.

Agent Coulson

Southgate is a very likeable guy.

blueser

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Southgate is a very likeable guy.

Doesn't appear to be any arrogance about him. As Tim "nice but dim" would say; a bloody good bloke, actually.

alta stare

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

This is the biggest result of Southgate's reign. Beats anything done at the World Cup.

Really??? I wouldn't think so. Its one game against Spain who havent been no where as good as they were a few years ago. Have no doubt it is a great confidence builder for England but we all know how they like to implode.

Tomorrow the media will make them out as favourites for the Euros, when they struggle in a game against lower opposition they will be crucified. They cant win when it comes to the media therefore imo altho this is a good result for them it doesnt trump their world cup. This will be forgotten whereas the semi final of the world cup 2018 will live on for another 50years.

The Talking Bread

irishguitarlad wrote: »

Should have been 3-3 with that penalty decision.

They might not have scored a third if they scored the penalty.

Fair enough, should have been a penalty but this should have been 3-3 makes no sense.
Who knows, it could have been 4-3 ! or 4-2 ! Or they may not have scored the penalty!

siblers

Esse85 wrote: »

Something very likeable about England and Southgate. Refreshing to see the manager give youth a chance rather than picking the lads with the big ego's.

The England team is quite likeable but there is something about Pickford that I don't like, he seems like a bit of a mouthy ****er...even the way he takes his kick outs, it really grates me.

Mr.Nice Guy

alta stare wrote: »

Really??? I wouldn't think so. Its one game against Spain who havent been no where as good as they were a few years ago. Have no doubt it is a great confidence builder for England but we all know how they like to implode.

Tomorrow the media will make them out as favourites for the Euros, when they struggle in a game against lower opposition they will be crucified. They cant win when it comes to the media therefore imo altho this is a good result for them it doesnt trump their world cup. This will be forgotten whereas the semi final of the world cup 2018 will live on for another 50years.

Spain came into this game in great form. Walloped the World Cup finalists Croatia 6-0, beat England at Wembley - where England hadn't lost a competitive game in 11 years - and also beat Wales 4-1, who admittedly were missing Bale but don't tend to get spanked like that. Spain's only defeat in 27 games was the penalty shootout loss to Russia, and they hadn't been beaten at home in 38 competitive games (Greece the last ones to get a win in 2003).

Thinking back to the World Cup, I don't think England did anything remarkable. They had a kind run and were deservedly beaten by the quality sides they faced. I didn't get the Southgate hype.

Tonight was a different story. This was a serious result against a serious side.

I think they're entitled to be excited. They've some superb talents emerging and morale looks to be high. They have to be considered a decent shout to win the Euros.

SharpshooterTom

England IMO are the probably favourites for Euro 2020.

From the semi final its a home tournament for them. Its hard to see them not winning it should they get that far.

Deeper Blue

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

England IMO are the probably favourites for Euro 2020.

From the semi final its a home tournament for them. Its to see them not winning it should they get that far.

England favourites over France and Belgium? Or even Germany and Spain? Not sure about that. Home advantage or not, I think the above squads are better and the cream usually rises to the top. I do think they'll make a major tournament final by 2030 though.

irishman86

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

England IMO are the probably favourites for Euro 2020.

From the semi final its a home tournament for them. Its to see them not winning it should they get that far.

Thats the spirit :pac:

irishguitarlad

The Talking Bread wrote: »

They might not have scored a third if they scored the penalty.

Fair enough, should have been a penalty but this should have been 3-3 makes no sense.
Who knows, it could have been 4-3 ! or 4-2 ! Or they may not have scored the penalty!

They would have crumbled under the pressure, that's my own opinion anyways.

alta stare

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Spain came into this game in great form. Walloped the World Cup finalists Croatia 6-0, beat England at Wembley - where England hadn't lost a competitive game in 11 years - and also beat Wales 4-1, who admittedly were missing Bale but don't tend to get spanked like that. Spain's only defeat in 27 games was the penalty shootout loss to Russia, and they hadn't been beaten at home in 38 competitive games (Greece the last ones to get a win in 2003).

Thinking back to the World Cup, I don't think England did anything remarkable. They had a kind run and were deservedly beaten by the quality sides they faced. I didn't get the Southgate hype.

Tonight was a different story. This was a serious result against a serious side.

I think they're entitled to be excited. They've some superb talents emerging and morale looks to be high. They have to be considered a decent shout to win the Euros.

Yeah i suppose looking at the last few Spanish results it is a big scalp for England. I feel Spain werent on their usual form at the WC and England got to the semis albeit and easy path but they still got there all the same. For me anyway i think they will take more heart and belief from the WC than beating Spain last night.

HalloweenJack

Great result for England and a great performance in the first half (didn't see the second) but very early to be calling them (or anyone for that matter) favourites for the Euros.

Minderbinder

I think the result is going to be hyped and they're very eager to get across the point that it was a competitive game. While technically I suppose it was, I don't think these games have the same sort of tension that you'd find in a real qualifier for example, and I'd wait for England to do it on a bigger stage against the same caliber of opposition before I'd get too excited.

~Rebel~

Minderbinder wrote: »

I think the result is going to be hyped and they're very eager to get across the point that it was a competitive game. While technically I suppose it was, I don't think these games have the same sort of tension that you'd find in a real qualifier for example, and I'd wait for England to do it on a bigger stage against the same caliber of opposition before I'd get too excited.

Whatever way you look at it though, Spain hadn't lost a home game in over a decade.

ERG89

~Rebel~ wrote:

Whatever way you look at it though, Spain hadn't lost a home game in over a decade.

England and Italy both have long unbeaten home records too despite being ropey for much of the last decade. Considering the pretty low standard of international football it's not really a boast in 2018

citytillidie

Match Day 4 Results
Poland 0 V 1 Italy
Russia 2 V 0 Turkey
Israel 2 V 0 Albania
Romania 0 V 0 Serbia
Lithuania 1 V 4 Montenegro
Azerbaijan 1 V 1 Malta
Faroe Islands 1 V 1 Kosovo
Iceland 1 V 2 Switzerland
Spain 2 V 3 England
Bosina and Heregovina 2 V 0 Northern Ireland
Estonia 3 V 3 Hungary
Finland 2 V 0 Greece
Belarus 0 V 0 Moldova
Luxembourg 3 V 0 San Marino
France 2 V 1 Germany
Ukraine 1 V 0 Czech Republic
Ireland 0 V 1 Wales
Norway 1 V 0 Bulgaria
Slovenia 1 V 1 Cyprus
Kazakhstan 4 V 0 Andorra
Latvia 0 V 3 Georgia
Armenia 4 V 0 FYR Macedonia
Gibraltar 2 V 1 Liechtenstein

Promoted to League C
Georgia

Relegated to League B
Iceland
Poland

~Rebel~

ERG89 wrote: »

England and Italy both have long unbeaten home records too despite being ropey for much of the last decade. Considering the pretty low standard of international football it's not really a boast in 2018

England's unbeaten home record currently stands a 1 game. And before that, it was nearly 2 years from when they lost to the Dutch in 2016. Italy have managed alllmost 3 years.

Sure, those runs are decent... but Spain went 15 years. 15!
It shows that they take every home match seriously. Ending that streak is a great achievement whatever way you look at it.

irishman86

Diers comments about putting a marker on Ramos are beyond sad

greendom

irishman86 wrote: »

Diers comments about putting a marker on Ramos are beyond sad

He's a pretty limited player.I suppose he has to brag about that as he has little else in his game.