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Extratropical Storm Ophelia - Technical Analysis Only - MOD NOTE post #1

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    NOAA


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Gusts

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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,723 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    Gust hit castlebar. Woke me there. Not massive strong


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,228 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Wind has picked up in Clonmel over the past 30 minutes. About the same as your average windy night at the moment, with some sudden strong gusts.

    EDIT: This is getting noticeably worse by the minute. 10 minutes later and we're into "bad windy night" territory. Hard downpours that last for about 10 seconds and then suddenly stop.


    Same down here, nó rain though yet from what I can hear.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭ps200306


    Just in case anyone is being misled by the sat24.com IR pictures into thinking this has gone much further west:

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    The perspective in that image is seriously skewed -- you need to rotate it around 45 degrees counterclockwise. For reference, look at the eastern edge of Iceland ... that's supposed to be 3 degrees *WEST* of the westernmost Dingle peninsula. Turn the screen the right way and Ophelia's northerly track has it barrelling straight at us. :eek:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Netweather

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Ah lads here go to sleep for an hour! Just woke up for a quick status check.
    6am TAF's issued, mainly upgrades. Somewhat concerning.

    Cork Max gust now 75kts

    Dublin Max gust now 55kts

    Knock Max gust now 60kts

    And to add to this list

    Kerry Expecting max gust of 70kts, temporarily active between 11am-1pm TEMPO 1610/1612 14045G70KT

    Waterford Expecting max gust of 75kts, temporarily between 1pm-4pm TEMPO 1612/1615 20050G75KT


    Looks very concerning for those on the South Coast, especially as TAF's have upgraded further, stay safe everyone today.

    I'm back to sleep for a while, good luck!


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,889 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Nod Note: This thread is just for technical discussion. A lot of posts moved to http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057797471


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    ICON 03Z ( probably overestimates speeds a bit more than the other models ? , we will see )

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  • Registered Users Posts: 573 ✭✭✭Hastentoadd


    Meteorite, what you show would suggest that this storm will miss on the West?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Fair few sferics showing up off the coasts

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭George Sunsnow


    Nhc Florida has just said worst will be Galway to Sligo
    Storm is further west-RTÉ Morning Ireland


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,191 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    Meteorite, what you show would suggest that this storm will miss on the West?

    See the white, purple and red in the post above yours?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,354 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    Meteorite, what you show would suggest that this storm will miss on the West?

    The eye of the storm. Not the storm itself


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Meteorite, what you show would suggest that this storm will miss on the West?


    I think if you go back a few pages and look at the various models, there is slight variances. In general I would think it wont miss, maybe not as bad as the SW, S and SE but treat it as a Red warning. This as they have said is unprecedented.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    This was the wind analysis at 4 am. I'm not sure if it's valid for extratropical systems as it works on the reduction of 700 hPa winds, which may not apply in this case. In any case it showing max winds 79 knots to the ENE.

    2017AL17_MPSATWND_201710160300_SWND.GIF


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    GFS 0Z

    Mean

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    850hpa

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Barometer / Temp Readings Tralee

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭flaneur


    Bear in mind hurricane describes a very specific type of storm. This may no longer meet those technical criteria but it does not mean that it’s not a very powerful system.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭flaneur


    Are all the models beginning to ageee on the westerly shift or is it all a little speculative ?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,889 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Highest gust for 0600 reports was 44kn at Valentia, and, for 0700 reports is 47kn at Sherkin.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Mod Note

    This thread is for technical analysis only please - there’s a general discussion thread available for everything else

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    http://www.meteociel.fr/observations-meteo/satellite.php

    This one is easier to see the storm momentum from, but as I said earlier looking at the infrared imagery can be deceptive. Nonetheless it seems like a slightly westerly wobble happened last night and I'd expect a slightly bigger hit on the western side of the country than I had expected yesterday.

    There's been some eejits thinking that the storm is meaningfully missing Ireland when the winds from this will be severe throughout the south even still. When it does make it to Ireland, the observations will paint a detailed picture of what exactly it will do. Hopefully not as bad as feared or predicted.

    Edit: basically this event is going to happen and it will be bad, and it's the technical thread so can we cut out the "what about me and my random question" stuff?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Again, not sure if the windspeeds in this latest analysis at 7 am are accurate (77 knots). It doesn't even state a radius for the 34-knot winds but at least it shows where the centre is now (50.8N 11.5W, about 200 km southwest of Kerry).

    2017AL17_MPSATWND_201710160600_SWND.GIF

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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,389 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    The winds are strongest to the east and south of the eye, and the rain is worse on the west, so if it has shifted west, this should reduce rainfall but increase the storm surge on the west coast.


  • Registered Users Posts: 643 ✭✭✭REBELSAFC


    How accurate/reliable is ventusky? This chart looks very worrying with gusts over 170kmph for this afternoon.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Joanna Donnelly on radio now just mentioned gusts >150 kph and a possible sting jet later


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