"White people most violent and oppressive"

Hande hoche!

Floody Boreland wrote: »

Never heard of the Congo Horrors?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfYC7m4cULE

The comments section there is mad altogether.

Aristotle145

Grayson wrote: »

1) Sweden doesn't censor anything.
2) It's been established that poverty does cause crime. It's been established many times. In societies/countries/towns/neighbourhoods you will get more crime than in societies/countries/towns/neighbourhoods that are wealthy.

Sweden dont censor,they forbid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7mLP5ioBQs

Grayson

server down wrote: »

Where does the poster you quote support ethnic genocide?

The thread a couple of weeks back about myanmar.

Grayson

Aristotle145 wrote: »

Sweden dont censor,they forbid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7mLP5ioBQs

1) that's long.
2) Browsing through it, it's bull****. There was one bit I saw where it said that if multi cultural societies are so great why don't multicultural neighbourhoods have the best schools. That's a false hypothesis. It's down to school funding and a load of things, not the race of the children who attend.

The few minutes I watched were laughable if it weren't for the fact that it's aimed at stirring up hatred. The only people who would buy into that are people who have an existing bias or are just stupid.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

That said very racist and I'm offended

A Little Pony

server down wrote: »

Grayson wrote: »

To be fair we think you're evil because you think ethnic genocide is fine. I have no idea what colour you are, I'm just disgusted by what you've said here.

Where does the poster you quote support ethnic genocide?

It's more lunacy, ignore it.

Will I Am Not

Grayson wrote: »

The only people who would buy into that are people who have an existing bias or are just stupid.

Quite the statement about a documentary you haven't watched, about a situation in a country you don't live in.

Rjd2

Cheshire Cat wrote: »

It's the Katie Hopkins effect: If you want to make a name for yourself, be as controversial as possible. It may work or it may backfire big time.

Yep exactly this. She knows there is plenty of money to be made by provoking right wingers ala Katie with the left. I can't understand why anyone would pay any attention to either tbh when its so obvious and boring what they are doing.

Grayson

The Fake Sheikh wrote: »

Quite the statement about a documentary you haven't watched, about a situation in a country you don't live in.

I skimmed it and gave an example of where it was wrong.

Plus, I'm not going to watch a random "documentary" that some nut on youtube created.

Has it really gotten to the stage where "proof" is a long video on youtube. No documented evidence. No critical sources. Just a nutjob video on youtube.

I could drag up videos that prove just about any nonsense on YouTube. Next you'll be expecting me to accept illuminati or flat earther video's as proof and tell me I'm wrong to dismiss 60 minutes of crap because I wouldn't waste my time watching it.

The_Kew_Tour

Know couple people who live in Sweden who tell me they're plenty of problems in Sweden. But won't say too much might be called a racist.:P

Sweetemotion

Why are my posts being deleted?

Will I Am Not

Grayson wrote: »

I skimmed it and gave an example of where it was wrong.

Plus, I'm not going to watch a random "documentary" that some nut on youtube created.

Has it really gotten to the stage where "proof" is a long video on youtube. No documented evidence. No critical sources. Just a nutjob video on youtube.

I could drag up videos that prove just about any nonsense on YouTube. Next you'll be expecting me to accept illuminati or flat earther video's as proof and tell me I'm wrong to dismiss 60 minutes of crap because I wouldn't waste my time watching it.

You skimmed it until you found something you could point at and say "look this bit is wrong, the whole video must be wrong"

Junkyard Tom

Madagascan

Grayson wrote: »

Aristotle145 wrote: »

Sweden dont censor,they forbid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7mLP5ioBQs

1) that's long.
2) Browsing through it, it's bull****. There was one bit I saw where it said that if multi cultural societies are so great why don't multicultural neighbourhoods have the best schools. That's a false hypothesis. It's down to school funding and a load of things, not the race of the children who attend.

The few minutes I watched were laughable if it weren't for the fact that it's aimed at stirring up hatred. The only people who would buy into that are people who have an existing bias or are just stupid.

Did you see the guy with the mustache?
He's talking as if he's been invsded by something from The Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
Sweden is lost.

Grayson

The Fake Sheikh wrote: »

You skimmed it until you found something you could point at and say "look this bit is wrong, the whole video must be wrong"

You honestly expect me to accept that video as "proof". It's 60 minutes long. I'm not going to spend 60 minutes looking at a random video on youtube. He could have put up an article and I could have read it but no, a 60 fcuking minute video. He couldn't even point to a part that proved his argument.

So I did the courtesy of skimming it and that bit I mentioned came up as a big title, in white writing on a black background. That took about 20 seconds to find. And yeah, as soon as I saw that in huge writing I thought "If that's a key point, I'm stopping right now".

So rather than complain that I couldn't be bothered watching a 60 minute video by a conspiracy nut on youTube, you could actually post something to back up his argument rather than trying to make me seem unreasonable because I wouldn't submit myself to 60 minutes from some random bloke on the internet.

Will I Am Not

Grayson wrote: »

You honestly expect me to accept that video as "proof". It's 60 minutes long. I'm not going to spend 60 minutes looking at a random video on youtube. He could have put up an article and I could have read it but no, a 60 fcuking minute video. He couldn't even point to a part that proved his argument.

So I did the courtesy of skimming it and that bit I mentioned came up as a big title, in white writing on a black background. That took about 20 seconds to find. And yeah, as soon as I saw that in huge writing I thought "If that's a key point, I'm stopping right now".

So rather than complain that I couldn't be bothered watching a 60 minute video by a conspiracy nut on youTube, you could actually post something to back up his argument rather than trying to make me seem unreasonable because I wouldn't submit myself to 60 minutes from some random bloke on the internet.

I'm not complaining that you didn't watch it. I'm complaining that you think only biased and stupid people could take anything from it without watching it yourself. I'm complaining that you pick up on one point and think that's good enough to render the entire video a load of bollox.

I didn't watch it. It could be the greatest load of bollox ever committed to video for all I know.

stefanovich

A Little Pony wrote: »

https://twitter.com/bbcthisweek/status/918610746375671808
Very bizarre arguments from this woman. Discussion is on the Iplayer. 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0991mf1/this-week-12102017

Love how she quotes Theresa May's interpretation of the race study, which jumped to all sorts of wrong conclusions based on the misreading of the statistics.

The_Kew_Tour

Grayson wrote: »

You honestly expect me to accept that video as "proof". It's 60 minutes long. I'm not going to spend 60 minutes looking at a random video on youtube.

You're gas any excuse

You want proof but you cant handle the truth.

Blame something something something

Sand

Grayson wrote: »

You honestly expect me to accept that video as "proof". It's 60 minutes long. I'm not going to spend 60 minutes looking at a random video on youtube. He could have put up an article and I could have read it but no, a 60 fcuking minute video. He couldn't even point to a part that proved his argument.

Well you believe Ireland is a 'rape culture' in the face of all evidence to the contrary, so I wouldn't think it impossible that you would accept anything being true. Where you choose to believe, and where you choose not to is just evidence of your own bias as you clearly don't follow the evidence when reaching a view. So its important not to explore issues from outside your own bias. A waste of your time at the very least.

As it, your excuse is weak. If multiculturalism was a strength, those schools would be outperforming schools in other areas that were not multicultural, for the same budget. But they don't. Given language issues, cultural differences, increased violence against staff and pupils and necessary segregation multicultural schools require much more funding, all other things being equal.

Just be honest. You didn't want to listen to a different perspective that might cause you to re-evaluate your views. There's nothing wrong with admitting that.

server down

Grayson wrote: »

You honestly expect me to accept that video as "proof". It's 60 minutes long. I'm not going to spend 60 minutes looking at a random video on youtube. He could have put up an article and I could have read it but no, a 60 fcuking minute video. He couldn't even point to a part that proved his argument.

So I did the courtesy of skimming it and that bit I mentioned came up as a big title, in white writing on a black background. That took about 20 seconds to find. And yeah, as soon as I saw that in huge writing I thought "If that's a key point, I'm stopping right now".

So rather than complain that I couldn't be bothered watching a 60 minute video by a conspiracy nut on youTube, you could actually post something to back up his argument rather than trying to make me seem unreasonable because I wouldn't submit myself to 60 minutes from some random bloke on the internet.

If you are not going to actually watch the video, why comment? You also managed to poison the well with attacks on the "kind of people" who would be expected to think it reasonable.

I personally haven't watched the video so I have no comment on it. No doubt the situation in Sweden is somewhere between the official story and you tube videos but I don't think we can say one way or the other.

Are Am Eye

Aristotle145

Grayson wrote: »

1) that's long.
2) Browsing through it, it's bull****. There was one bit I saw where it said that if multi cultural societies are so great why don't multicultural neighbourhoods have the best schools. That's a false hypothesis. It's down to school funding and a load of things, not the race of the children who attend.

The few minutes I watched were laughable if it weren't for the fact that it's aimed at stirring up hatred. The only people who would buy into that are people who have an existing bias or are just stupid.

Offcourse you dont want to watch the truth,i know it hurts.
Its always the easy way out to say its stirring up hatred,when in fact its telling the truth.
You want to see a neigbourhood in Sweden.
here is how an immigrant neighbourhood is in Sweden.
Is this stirring up hatred too,i wonder who is hating who here,just my 2 cents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RocMz241uFU

SeanW

Grayson wrote: »

If we look at the numbers killed by a particular race then I'm pretty certain that white people would be at the top. From world wars to colonisation, they've got the record. If we even just look at the post war period, most wars were proxy wars between the USSR and the US.

I don't believe that a white person is any more inherently violent than a person of any other race. But I would say that white people are responsible for a fcuk load of misery in the world. Both can be accurate and don't contradict each other.

The biggest mass-killer in human history was Mao Zedong. Socialists were by far the worst mass killers in all of human history. Nazis were closely related, as, like the communists, they despised Capitalism. Hitler condemned capitalism explicitly throughout his life. Also, the Nazi label was only applied to them after the end of WWII, Nazi is a pejorative short hand for National SOCIALIST.

If you want to know if a regime is capable of mass murder to the point of Top 10 genocide, there are two good predictors of this:

1. Are they imperialists?
2. Does their ideology have anything to do with Communism or Socialism?

If either of these apply, watch out.

Hande hoche!

Well the good news is she ended up as an equalities advisor for the Labour party.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/27/labour-hires-transgender-model-said-white-people-racist-advisor/

KrustyUCC

Not a great move from Corbyn

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Every time i hear of a political party hiring someone as an 'adviser' it seems to be a very badly advised choice...

Sand

A good solid pick by the Labour party. Should be able to bring a lot to the discussion on racism. Maybe bring in Nick Griffin as well for some balance.

Varik

“In my head I didn’t think there would be that much of a problem in identifying that racism is coming from white culture, white privilege, white supremacists. Society is built on the premise of white supremacy,” she told Channel 4 at the time, pointing out that her mother and that entire side of her family were white.

“I don’t see how calling out the roots of racism, somehow makes you a racist,” she added, calling the controversy the “worst time of my life”.

A spokesperson for Butler said: “Dawn is proud to stand with those challenging discrimination. Dawn will consult with the LGBT+ advisory group on a wide-range of LGBT+ issues.”

And that's from The Guardian.

In front of cameras the Tories condemn her comments, but behind the scenes they're probably celebrating this **** up.

Ulysses Gaze

You gotta love Labour. Always focussing on the really important and vital stuff....

And then they wonder why they have lost the working class vote in the UK.

mzungu

Pointless stunt move from Corbyn. The whole trying to be 'down with the kids' schtick won't translate into votes, might even loose them a few.

suicide_circus

the death throes of British politics

Ulysses Gaze

suicide_circus wrote: »

the death throes of British politics

No...just Labour doubling down on their identity politics shtick.

markodaly

Sand wrote: »

A good solid pick by the Labour party. Should be able to bring a lot to the discussion on racism. Maybe bring in Nick Griffin as well for some balance.

I LOL'd

markodaly

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

No...just Labour doubling down on their identity politics shtick.

Just when Labour were emerging as a credible alternative to the Tories they do this.

Torries are a mess and Labour are ****wits.

Ulysses Gaze

markodaly wrote: »

Just when Labour were emerging as a credible alternative to the Tories they do this.

Torries are a mess and Labour are ****wits.

For some reason, Labour are ignoring the reasons why Miliband was hammered at the last election.

They also overstimate Corbyn's popularity as well - if Corbyn were going to become Prime Minister, it would have been at the last snap election when May was figuratively on her knees.

He couldn't beat a lame duck Prime Minister then. And he won't beat her successor.

the purple tin

This woman is a clickbait merchant. Feminism, racism, homophobia, lately some people are using these topics as a self promotion tool, to secure a career or as a get rich quick scheme

Yer Da sells Avon

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

You gotta love Labour. Always focussing on the really important and vital stuff....

And then they wonder why they have lost the working class vote in the UK.

The results of the most recent election suggest otherwise. They lost working class votes when they stole the Tories' clothes and became an economically centre-right party, ignoring the needs of poorer voters. Under Corbyn, they've been regaining the working class vote.

The only people upset about this are the easily-offended "oh no, racism against whites is the worst thing ever" brigade. And they seem to exist mainly on the internet.

Are Am Eye

Wait a minute, who is "they"
Who is "white people"?

CosmicJay

I'm genuinely convinced that Labour has been infiltrated by a bunch of conservative actors to make the party as much of a laughing stock as possible.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labour-bans-straight-white-men-at-conference-qqklhfr3w

Couldnt make this stuff up.

Ulysses Gaze

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

The results of the most recent election suggest otherwise. They lost working class votes when they stole the Tories' clothes and became an economically centre-right party, ignoring the needs of poorer voters. Under Corbyn, they've been regaining the working class vote.

The only people upset about this are the easily-offended "oh no, racism against whites is the worst thing ever" brigade. And they seem to exist mainly on the internet.

And yet despite all that, the Tories are still the Government.

With their worst Post-War Prime Minister.....

Yer Da sells Avon

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

And yet despite all that, the Tories are still the Government.

With their worst Post-War Prime Minister.....

They're hanging on by a thread, under constant pressure from Corbyn. He has done a very good job of turning the Labour party's fortunes around, especially with working class voters. To claim otherwise is laughable.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

And yet despite all that, the Tories are still the Government.

With their worst Post-War Prime Minister.....

I honestly wouldn't be hailing that as a sign of Tory populairty, considering what was predicted to happen.

markodaly

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

The results of the most recent election suggest otherwise. They lost working class votes when they stole the Tories' clothes and became an economically centre-right party, ignoring the needs of poorer voters. Under Corbyn, they've been regaining the working class vote.

The only people upset about this are the easily-offended "oh no, racism against whites is the worst thing ever" brigade. And they seem to exist mainly on the internet.

Not at all. Labour has a problem with working class whites in England. It is why Labour have literally gone awol from the whole Brexit issue. The Torries are on their knees, waiting to be spanked but Labour are scared stiff of a backlash by actually having to outline their position on, well anything.

They don't want to piss off their core vote in the midlands and the North of England. The closer they move towards this type of idiocy and intersectionality, the more they will lose the working class white vote which will go to any party smart enough to grab it.

jaxxx

Other revelatory news of groundbreaking proportions:
- Water = wet
- Grass = green
- Trump's hair = alien in origin

QED

cantdecide

A highly ill-advised diversity hire - it's what objectification truly looks like. I mean what kind of deplorable hate do you have to spread in order to be shunned by the left? They will deserve the fallout.

Virtue-signalling level: incompetent

JohnMc1

A Little Pony wrote: »

https://twitter.com/bbcthisweek/status/918610746375671808
Very bizarre arguments from this woman. Discussion is on the Iplayer. 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0991mf1/this-week-12102017

So why is she and others with that same mentality doing in our Countries then? Get the **** out if you don't like us.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

JohnMc1 wrote: »

So why is she and others with that same mentality doing in our Countries then? Get the **** out if you don't like us.

She's British. In any case, I've seen a lot of white women complain about "all whites being racist" and men being overly apologetic about sexism.

White men apologising for their privelege is new-age Catholic guilt.

Yer Da sells Avon

markodaly wrote: »

They don't want to piss off their core vote in the midlands and the North of England. The closer they move towards this type of idiocy and intersectionality, the more they will lose the working class white vote which will go to any party smart enough to grab it.

As long as they keep opposing Tory cuts (sic) and put forward good alternative policies, Labour's support will continue to rise. Most working class white people just aren't into the whole "oh woe is me, the bad black woman said something bad about white people, waaaahhh double standards waaaaahhh" nonsense that preoccupies some of the more easily offended and delicate little flowers on here.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

She's British. In any case, I've seen a lot of white women complain about "all whites being racist" and men being overly apologetic about sexism.

White men apologising for their privelege is new-age Catholic guilt.

It’s a thorough rewriting of Irish history as well.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

As long as they keep opposing Tory cuts (sic) and put forward good alternative policies, Labour's support will continue to rise. Most working class white people just aren't into the whole "oh woe is me, the bad black woman said something bad about white people, waaaahhh double standards waaaaahhh" nonsense that preoccupies some of the more easily offended and delicate little flowers on here.

Actually the thing about Corbyn is he clearly isn’t - despite this - into identity politics. If fact the identity politics wing of the Labour Party tried to oust him.

Someday the Labour Party will have a leader who is all identity politics and the white working class vote will desert en masse.