84x survey

Annasopra

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Eponymous

Who is it for?

drake70

Eponymous wrote: »

Who is it for?

Originated from the Facebook group "84x Commuters".


https://m.facebook.com/groups/371219473300096

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https://facebook.com/groups/371219473300096

Annasopra

Eponymous wrote: »

Who is it for?

Not really sure.

punisher5112

There are way too many stops on it.

There should be a 145x, 46x, 16x and some more at certain times.

Its crazy thinking its OK to sit on a bus for 2 hours to make end to end.

loyatemu

punisher5112 wrote: »

There are way too many stops on it.

There should be a 145x, 46x, 16x and some more at certain times.

Its crazy thinking its OK to sit on a bus for 2 hours to make end to end.

the "Busconnects" project is likely to result in more express buses and direct routes, the payoff being fewer buses going into housing estates and places off the main roads.

Alun

loyatemu wrote: »

the "Busconnects" project is likely to result in more express buses and direct routes, the payoff being fewer buses going into housing estates and places off the main roads.

There's no reason why you can't have both. People need to get away from this idea that everybody can have a direct route from their front door to their final destination.

There should be smaller, feeder buses doing the rounds of the estates dropping people off at termini where they can then catch faster express buses.

loyatemu

Alun wrote: »

There's no reason why you can't have both. People need to get away from this idea that everybody can have a direct route from their front door to their final destination.

There should be smaller, feeder buses doing the rounds of the estates dropping people off at termini where they can then catch faster express buses.

if you read the Busconnects page, that is exactly what they are proposing. However given Dublin Bus' track record on reliability and punctuality, I can foresee some resistance from passengers to the idea of changing buses.

Look at the situation with the 84 since it was moved from the City Centre to Blackrock - in theory you can change in Bray onto the 145, but it can involve a lot of waiting around, particularly on the return journey and there are a lot of people who would like to see the direct 84 restored (even though it was a nightmarishly slow route and hardly anyone went the full distance).

adam240610

Badly need more southbound about 6pm, the bus nearly always goes by UCD full

Annasopra

adam240610 wrote: »

Badly need more southbound about 6pm, the bus nearly always goes by UCD full

It shouldnt drop passengers off between UCD and Shankill. That would solve that.

molloyjh

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

It shouldnt drop passengers off between UCD and Shankill. That would solve that.

You can't allow passengers on at stops in that area but not off. Sadly with things like annual tickets there's no way to prevent people getting on the bus even if they don't need to be on it. I'd say the bus that starts at UCD has been put on for that reason.

Don't think there's any way to resolve the commute time issue either. That's just traffic. And with more and more people moving out to Greystones and Newtown in particular there's very little Dublin Bus can do. Reducing the number of stops won't make a huge difference as the real issues are that roundabout at the end of the SCR as well as the traffic getting onto the M11. The number of buses in the bus lanes from Foxrock onwards can also be an issue. It's the same coming home. Merging onto the M11 from the N11 is crazy and the sheer volume of traffic there is unavoidable.

loyatemu

molloyjh wrote: »

You can't allow passengers on at stops in that area but not off. Sadly with things like annual tickets there's no way to prevent people getting on the bus even if they don't need to be on it. I'd say the bus that starts at UCD has been put on for that reason.

you can have "boarding only" stops - sure people might try to get off at them, but no-one would get on at (say) UCD if they couldn't be sure the bus would stop at their stop in (say) Cabinteely.

Vic_08

molloyjh wrote: »

You can't allow passengers on at stops in that area but not off. Sadly with things like annual tickets there's no way to prevent people getting on the bus even if they don't need to be on it. I'd say the bus that starts at UCD has been put on for that reason.

Off course you can, lots of bus companies operate limited stop services. Try boarding a 133 in the city and attempt to get off within Dublin, at best you'll get a warning from the driver not to do it again, if there is even a hint that it is being done on purpose be prepared to be carried to the next stop where someone wants to board the bus or the first drop-off stop.

molloyjh wrote: »

Don't think there's any way to resolve the commute time issue either. That's just traffic. And with more and more people moving out to Greystones and Newtown in particular there's very little Dublin Bus can do. Reducing the number of stops won't make a huge difference as the real issues are that roundabout at the end of the SCR as well as the traffic getting onto the M11. The number of buses in the bus lanes from Foxrock onwards can also be an issue. It's the same coming home. Merging onto the M11 from the N11 is crazy and the sheer volume of traffic there is unavoidable.

Better bus priority is needed, I'd put a bus gate on the last section of Killarney Rd towards the roundabout and route buses that way in the morning peak. M11 should have peak time bus lanes on the hard shoulders as is done on M1 between Lisburn and Belfast.

Slower stopping buses can be a pain on the N11 corridor in peaks, more stops need to be double width to allow better passing.

Annasopra

Fair enough then. There should be no passengers allowed on or off between ucd and shankill. It is meant to be an express route. People can use other routes like 145, 46a etc

adam240610

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Fair enough then. There should be no passengers allowed on or off between ucd and shankill. It is meant to be an express route. People can use other routes like 145, 46a etc

Might actually be able to get home from college in an hour instead of two if they'd ever do that
The new 84x from UCD is at such an awful time

punisher5112

adam240610 wrote: »

Might actually be able to get home from college in an hour instead of two if they'd ever do that
The new 84x from UCD is at such an awful time

In what way is the time too early or late?

Voice your concerns on twitter or write to them and give input on it.

The set up on some routes where extra buses are fitted in I see are useless at times as nobody gets them as the times they are sent out is when peak is over or too many buses at the one time.

adam240610

punisher5112 wrote: »

In what way is the time too early or late?

Voice your concerns on twitter or write to them and give input on it.

The set up on some routes where extra buses are fitted in I see are useless at times as nobody gets them as the times they are sent out is when peak is over or too many buses at the one time.

It leaves at 16:45

Means you have to wait 50 mins if you finish at ten to four which very few people ever do, and leaves just before people who finish at ten to five finish. Vast majority of people I know either finish at ten to six, or stay around until about six or later as is.

I tweet them every time it goes by full and submitted two suggestions on the off chance anyone cares up there

punisher5112

adam240610 wrote: »

It leaves at 16:45

Means you have to wait 50 mins if you finish at ten to four which very few people ever do, and leaves just before people who finish at ten to five finish. Vast majority of people I know either finish at ten to six, or stay around until about six or later as is.

I tweet them every time it goes by full and submitted two suggestions on the off chance anyone cares up there

Keep at them and get others to do same. Contact student union, college itself and start contacting local tds. Get onto db, nta also

CaoimheSquee

adam240610 wrote: »

It leaves at 16:45

Means you have to wait 50 mins if you finish at ten to four which very few people ever do, and leaves just before people who finish at ten to five finish. Vast majority of people I know either finish at ten to six, or stay around until about six or later as is.

I tweet them every time it goes by full and submitted two suggestions on the off chance anyone cares up there

Ive tweeted, emailed, rang, written in, got local TD's to write in and nothing. Dublin Bus definitely don't care about this route. Their response was to proudly add the 4.45pm bus which tackled nor acknowledged any of the issues I, Simon Harris or Andrew Doyle had raised.

For the sake of my sanity I gave up and just get the DART!!