2017-18 Emirates FA Cup

fullstop · 19-02-2018 11:19pm

ctrl-alt-delete wrote: »

BBC showed a clip. I wouldn't describe it as a punch, he swung his arm and caught the fan.

Yeah looked more like a push. Clearly shouldn't have done it, but what the hell is the fan doing on the pitch anyway, nevermind mouthing at players?

jaykay74 · 19-02-2018 11:21pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

That's what it's all about

Agreed!

Richard Hillman · 19-02-2018 11:22pm

Fully support Aguero. All fans on the pitch should be treated as a treat. They have no business being there and there were not "overcome with emotion" either. Wigan should have the book thrown at them.

SlickRic · 19-02-2018 11:23pm

We saw the real Pep throughout last season when he was rude to journalists, abrasive and patronising.

He is not a good loser.

Vincent Vega · 19-02-2018 11:25pm

What makes people so sure it was a Wigan fan with Aguero?
Could just as well have been a City fan angry that they had lost.

dfx- · 19-02-2018 11:28pm

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Ugly scenes involving Man City supporters there, Aguero lashing out at a fan, to add to poor behaviour from Pep earlier. This is not on and the FA needs to act. A 17 point deduction should suffice.

They would only go on to win the league by 15 points then..

thebaz · 19-02-2018 11:30pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

They showed it on the BBC and Lineker pointed it out.

People moan about the FA cup losing its passion - then Mr Nice (linekar) tut tuts any outburst of real passion - Football is emotional , can't stand Linekar and his prudish outrage - while he's paid a fortune to do so -

well done to Wigan though -

UrbanFret · 19-02-2018 11:39pm

SlickRic wrote: »

We saw the real Pep throughout last season when he was rude to journalists, abrasive and patronising.

He is not a good loser.

Considering the Agenda against City he's well entitled to call out the journalists for what they are. Why would he be a good loser? it's all about winning in this business.

Will I Am Not · 19-02-2018 11:44pm

UrbanFret wrote: »

Considering the Agenda against City he's well entitled to call out the journalists for what they are. Why would he be a good loser? it's all about winning in this business.

F*cking LOL!!!

sligeach · 19-02-2018 11:48pm

blueser wrote: »

Tell me please, what City player or manager talked about the quadruple? Pep was asked about it, and said they'd try to win all competitions we were in. I don't recollect him saying we would win all 4. Quite the opposite. He said several times that we wouldn't win them.

Never said it was any of the City staff. It was the media, just look at the headline on BBC Sport.

Unearthly · 19-02-2018 11:49pm

Lovely.

blueser · 19-02-2018 11:53pm

sligeach wrote: »

Never said it was any of the City staff. It was the media, just look at the headline on BBC Sport.

Fair enough. But there's nothing we can do about the media so it's bit strong to use that as a stick to beat us with.

Nerdlingr · 20-02-2018 12:02am

GavRedKing wrote: »

https://twitter.com/EPLStuff/status/965692398901710850

Just when you think you can somewhat like Pep, the mask slips and his true form comes out.

Ffs. Load of horsesh*t.
Not a city fan but clearly theres nothing in this. Ederson pushes cook who rightly gets agitated, so pep steps in between them. And he doesn't "rush" the ref. Hes actually getting his players into the dressing room, sees aguero in the tunnel beside the ref and runs over to get him in too.
The way social media twist this and every little incident just to suit their own agenda is f*cking sad.
And gullible fans lapping it up is even sadder.

sReq | uTeK · 20-02-2018 12:15am

I despise everything about city. I detest pep and think he's the worst loser in world football. I also think Aguero is one if the nastiest players in the keague. However, that fan deserved all he got and more and if Aguero knocked his two front teeth out he may learn not to invade a pitch. What the **** is Aguero meant to do when someone is in his face.

UrbanFret · 20-02-2018 12:17am

Lots of gloating on this thread . Not hard to know were their allegiances lie. No matter Mind The Gap!

GSPfan · 20-02-2018 12:31am

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

I despise everything about city. I detest pep and think he's the worst loser in world football. I also think Aguero is one if the nastiest players in the keague. However, that fan deserved all he got and more and if Aguero knocked his two front teeth out he may learn not to invade a pitch. What the **** is Aguero meant to do when someone is in his face.

What if it turns out that guy is a 15 year old? He could be in serious trouble. Can Aguero really afford to be hitting people on camera without a proven reason for defending himself? I think we’d all like to do the same as he did but having a happy fan saying stuff to you in your face doesn’t give you a legal right to wack him in the side of the head. Expect a complaint being investigated by the police tomorrow and Aguero getting a warning. The FA will give him a 3 game ban too or whatever they give for bringing the game into disrepute.

Trigger · 20-02-2018 12:37am

UrbanFret wrote: »

Lots of gloating on this thread . Not hard to know were their allegiances lie. No matter Mind The Gap!

There’s no gap in the Cup?? There’s a Exit though

Guy:Incognito · 20-02-2018 2:27am

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Ugly scenes involving Man City supporters there, Aguero lashing out at a fan, to add to poor behaviour from Pep earlier. This is not on and the FA needs to act. A 17 point deduction should suffice.

Would you really rather Liverpool won the league over city?

Liam McPoyle · 20-02-2018 8:45am

Peps carry on should not come as any surprise.

He showed umpteen times last year how abrasive and dismissive he is of everyone when things don't go his way.

Showed the same last night, a petulant, spoiled rich kid.

Delighted for him.

SlickRic · 20-02-2018 9:01am

Aguero was perfectly entitled to do what he did.

theoneeyedman · 20-02-2018 9:02am

GSPfan wrote: »

What if it turns out that guy is a 15 year old? He could be in serious trouble. Can Aguero really afford to be hitting people on camera without a proven reason for defending himself? I think we’d all like to do the same as he did but having a happy fan saying stuff to you in your face doesn’t give you a legal right to wack him in the side of the head. Expect a complaint being investigated by the police tomorrow and Aguero getting a warning. The FA will give him a 3 game ban too or whatever they give for bringing the game into disrepute.

WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!

Was Kun supposed to ask yer man for his birth cert or something??? I'm no City fan, but onus was on Wigan to keep the pitch clear of fans, and I wouldn't be hard on Kun in this instance..... If we are playing 'whatiffery', what if yer man had a knife or something. Obviously, I'm exaggerating a bit, but the players don't know how the situation is gonna progress on that instance.

Either way, I'd expect both Wigan and City to face fines for the crowd trouble. Pity the Cup shock was avoided though, as Wigan beat City yet again in a big cup game, a large 2013 and 2014

Giggsy11 · 20-02-2018 9:09am

Yeah I don't blame Aguero for what he did. That Wigan fan was so close and there are some different angle videos doing rounds on twitter which shows that fan was very close to Aguero and even had his hands on the player.

ziggyman17 · 20-02-2018 9:21am

blueser wrote: »

sligeach wrote: »

Well done Wigan. And that's the end of City and their quadruple talk.

Tell me please, what City player or manager talked about the quadruple? Pep was asked about it, and said they'd try to win all competitions we were in. I don't recollect him saying we would win all 4. Quite the opposite. He said several times that we wouldn't win them.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/25765975

marvin80 · 20-02-2018 9:25am

ziggyman17 wrote: »

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/25765975

You've quoted an article from 2014 - ridiculous!!

Iused2likebusts · 20-02-2018 9:39am

Aguero can't get banned for that all he did was push away a fan that was in his face.

Trigger · 20-02-2018 9:45am

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Aguero can't get banned for that all he did was push away a fan that was in his face.

With his forearm, forcefully to the face..

He probably will get banned but I have every sympathy for him, we don’t know what was said, for all we know the fella could have slagged off his Mam or Wife and kids. I know if someone was in my face saying something about any of them, I’d be trying(and probably failing) to deck him.

Kun will definitely use self defence(the guy had his arms on him) and he thought he was under threat as his defence..

Wigan should also have a massive fine coming their way

gucci · 20-02-2018 9:48am

Business Cat wrote: »

Peps carry on should not come as any surprise.

He showed umpteen times last year how abrasive and dismissive he is of everyone when things don't go his way.

Showed the same last night, a petulant, spoiled rich kid

Delighted for him.

Delighted for him that he has been rewarded with a lot of money by being very good at being a footballer and subsequently very good at being a coach?

Yes , I agree, it is good to see the footballers and coaches get rewarded for their endeavours as well as all the other hangers on in the game.

Show me a good loser and i'll show you a loser etc.

Tom.D.BJJ · 20-02-2018 10:32am

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

What the **** is Aguero meant to do when someone is in his face.

You know there are other options, right? I mean, you don't have to hit someone who gets in your face, or slags you off. Couldn't you do nothing? Couldn't you walk away?

sReq | uTeK · 20-02-2018 10:52am

GSPfan wrote: »

What if it turns out that guy is a 15 year old? He could be in serious trouble. Can Aguero really afford to be hitting people on camera without a proven reason for defending himself? I think we’d all like to do the same as he did but having a happy fan saying stuff to you in your face doesn’t give you a legal right to wack him in the side of the head. Expect a complaint being investigated by the police tomorrow and Aguero getting a warning. The FA will give him a 3 game ban too or whatever they give for bringing the game into disrepute.

Ah come on he brushed him away with his hand. Whack.... that’s pushing it to be honest

irelandrover · 20-02-2018 11:03am

You'd hope Aguero isnt punished. He was approached from behind during a pitch invasion and was handled by an opposition fan. He swung out backwards to push teh fan away. Thats what i saw in the video.

If players can't protect themselves during a pitch invasion then its a problem.

citytillidie · 20-02-2018 11:15am

irelandrover wrote: »

You'd hope Aguero isnt punished. He was approached from behind during a pitch invasion and was handled by an opposition fan. He swung out backwards to push teh fan away. Thats what i saw in the video.

If players can't protect themselves during a pitch invasion then its a problem.

Got to love fans, Evra kicks fan in the head in stands, fair play idiot fan deserves it, Aguero pushes fan on the pitch ban him and dock City points lol

20-02-2018 11:16am

citytillidie wrote: »

Got to love fans, Evra kicks fan in the head in stands, fair play idiot fan deserves it, Aguero pushes fan on the pitch ban him and dock City points lol

What does Evra have to do with Wigan V Man City game in the FA cup?

Will I Am Not · 20-02-2018 11:19am

M!Ck^ wrote: »

What does Evra have to do with Wigan V Man City game in the FA cup?

About as much as Suarez biting and racially abusing someone but I’m not going to bring that up. No way.

Cookiemunster · 20-02-2018 11:21am

citytillidie wrote: »

Got to love fans, Evra kicks fan in the head in stands, fair play idiot fan deserves it, Aguero pushes fan on the pitch ban him and dock City points lol

I believe Evra got sacked by Marseille and banned from European competition for the rest of the season. I didn't see anyone looking for anything similar to happen to Aguero.

citytillidie · 20-02-2018 11:23am

M!Ck^ wrote: »

What does Evra have to do with Wigan V Man City game in the FA cup?

Evra kicks a fan this season
Aguero pushes a fan this season

I am comparing the 2 most recent events that I know of where a player has been confronted by a fan and retaliated

20-02-2018 11:24am

citytillidie wrote: »

Evra kicks a fan this season
Aguero pushes a fan this season

I am comparing the 2 most recent events that I know of where a player has been confronted by a fan and retaliated

Evra was punished. Anyone can argue that Aguero should be facing a similar punishment.

Downplaying it by saying pushed, go way outa that.

You just wanted to make it about Evra because you believe all Utd fans will back him to the hilt, if you are going to post this type of stuff at least own it.

citytillidie · 20-02-2018 11:35am

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Evra was punished. Anyone can argue that Aguero should be facing a similar punishment.

Downplaying it by saying pushed, go way outa that.

Yes Evra was punished by UEFA and then sacked by the club, but he has signed for a new club who are not in European Competition therefore the punishment really means nothing.

Aguero may get a ban, just have to wait and see what the FA do.

The fan should also be caught and banned from grounds like that Everton fan was when he was caught on camera throwing a push/punch at a Lyon player in the Europa League game earlier this season.

There has also been instances where fans have been jailed for coming onto the pitch and confronting players.

Iused2likebusts · 20-02-2018 11:39am

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Evra was punished. Anyone can argue that Aguero should be facing a similar punishment.

Downplaying it by saying pushed, go way outa that.

You just wanted to make it about Evra because you believe all Utd fans will back him to the hilt, if you are going to post this type of stuff at least own it.

Evra went into the crowd. Aguero was on the pitch and somebody confronted him. There is a big difference.

duffman13 · 20-02-2018 11:39am

citytillidie wrote: »

Yes Evra was punished by UEFA and then sacked by the club, but he has signed for a new club who are not in European Competition therefore the punishment really means nothing.

Aguero may get a ban, just have to wait and see what the FA do.

The fan should also be caught and banned from grounds like that Everton fan was when he was caught on camera throwing a push/punch at a Lyon player in the Europa League game earlier this season.

There has also been instances where fans have been jailed for coming onto the pitch and confronting players.

He was sacked by the club and banned from European competition. It has a bit of an impact even in terms of looking for a new club it's restrictive.

As for Aguero, it was more than a push but probably deservedly so. If he gets a small ban then that's probably fair.

Evra and Aguero is Apples and oranges in terms of the circumstances that led to a fan being hit. Both deserve massively different degrees of action from the authorities.

citytillidie · 20-02-2018 11:44am

duffman13 wrote: »

He was sacked by the club and banned from European competition. It has a bit of an impact even in terms of looking for a new club it's restrictive.

As for Aguero, it was more than a push but probably deservedly so. If he gets a small ban then that's probably fair.

Evra and Aguero is Apples and oranges in terms of the circumstances that led to a fan being hit. Both deserve massively different degrees of action from the authorities.

And fans defended Evra for what he did and want the book thrown at Aguero

Trigger · 20-02-2018 11:44am

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Evra went into the crowd. Aguero was on the pitch and somebody confronted him. There is a big difference.

Not really, he went to the advertising boards on the side of the pitch, the crowd was a good 50m away from the pitch, a few loons hopped over the fences to confront him angrily.. he has a right to defend himself. In fairness so does Aguero as we don’t know what was said to him.

But they both should be banned. If he was to do that to an opposition player he would be looking at a heavy ban. He swung an arm at a fellas face.

What did Hazard get for kicking the ballboy? Was it just the 3 match

irelandrover · 20-02-2018 11:47am

astradave wrote: »

Not really, he went to the advertising boards on the side of the pitch, the crowd was a good 50m away from the pitch, a few loons hopped over the fences to confront him angrily.. he has a right to defend himself. In fairness so does Aguero as we don’t know what was said to him.

But they both should be banned. If he was to do that to an opposition player he would be looking at a heavy ban. He swung an arm at a fellas face.

What did Hazard get for kicking the ballboy? Was it just the 3 match

There is a big difference as during a game you are in no danger. During a pitch invasion there is a risk to a player and they should be allowed defend themselves.

Trigger · 20-02-2018 11:48am

citytillidie wrote: »

And fans defended Evra for what he did and want the book thrown at Aguero

The two are not mutually exclusive, most are saying that the fan deserved it and are defending Aguero’s actions but according to the letter of the law it could fall under violent conduct and he could/should be banned for it.

20-02-2018 12:05pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Evra went into the crowd. Aguero was on the pitch and somebody confronted him. There is a big difference.

How do you know Evra wasn't provoked verbally?
He clearly reacted to something.
There is not a big difference.

thebaz · 20-02-2018 12:09pm

the anti City agenda here is pathetic - I dont support them - but Wigan fans should not have been on pitch - they have history of not controlling ther own fans , and then objecting when opposition fans defend themselves - it was a great night for football , but the anti City vitriol from United fans here is sad.

ps and I understood when Cantona re-acted to provocation all those years ago. Footballers are human not robots.

20-02-2018 12:13pm

thebaz wrote: »

the anti City agenda here is pathetic - I dont support them - but Wigan fans should not have been on pitch - they have history of not controlling ther own fans , and then objecting when opposition fans defend themselves - it was a great night for football , but the anti City vitriol from United fans here is sad.

ps and I understood when Cantona re-acted to provocation all those years ago. Footballers are human not robots.

Where?

Iused2likebusts · 20-02-2018 12:17pm

M!Ck^ wrote: »

How do you know Evra wasn't provoked verbally?
He clearly reacted to something.
There is not a big difference.

I'd imagine evra was provoked verbally but he then went over to confront the crowd off the field of play. Aguero was on the field of play with somebody in his face. There is a big difference. If I was walking down the street and a gang of young lads where shouting at me from across the street I wouldn't go and confront them. If somebody came shouting in my face and I feared for my safety that is a different story.

thebaz · 20-02-2018 12:29pm

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Where?

maybe vitriol was the wrong word - but you certainly seam to be gloating with what happened -

as I said footballers are human , and will re-eact when **** happens be it Cantona, Aguero or Evra - Wigan should have controlled ther fans, and as I said this is not the first time - spoiling what should be a great night.

Nerdlingr · 20-02-2018 12:30pm

Evra went out of his way to confront a fan behind the advertising boards and KICKED HIM IN THE HEAD.
Aguero lashed out a a fan who had invaded that pitch who was in his face.
Think there's a big difference. We've only seen one clip. Who's to say Aguero wasnt being jostled before that by other Wigan fans.
In all of that, fair play to the Wigan 22 who was trying to stop Aguero go after the fan.

Thought it was an excellent game of football last night. Even though they got beaten City played really well (even with 10 men), they just couldnt break down or get that break against a superb defence. Both managers were respectful afterwards, shook hands, and were quite honest in their assessments.
City fans should be ashamed though. They lose a game for the first time in ages and start firing sh*te onto the pitch. Pitiful.

20-02-2018 12:32pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I'd imagine evra was provoked verbally but he then went over to confront the crowd off the field of play. Aguero was on the field of play with somebody in his face. There is a big difference. If I was walking down the street and a gang of young lads where shouting at me from across the street I wouldn't go and confront them. If somebody came shouting in my face and I feared for my safety that is a different story.

How can you presume if someone shouts verbal abuse that it wouldn't trigger an emotional response from someone receiving said abuse?

You have no idea of the context of what someone could say and how any given individual would react.

2017-18 Emirates FA Cup

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