2017-18 Emirates FA Cup

Turtwig

Was Sane even in an offside position?

SEPT 23 1989

Turtwig wrote: »

Was Sane even in an offside position?

No

Harry Palmr

Every time Cardiff get in a promising position their lack of game intelligence shines through.

blueser

Turtwig wrote: »

Was Sane even in an offside position?

He wasn't. Anyway, justice has been done. Nice one Raz. And what a cross from Bernie.

Harry Palmr

And there is the difference

Tom Mann Centuria

I'm still waiting for a late flag.

RobbingBandit

Is VAR only getting used at certain televised games, maybe an app for it plus the use of the big screen for those at the ground without a phone, weird they've not used it here today.

Turtwig

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

I'm still waiting for a late flag.

Invoke the inner Gabriel Jesus.

blueser

Dirty f***er. That's a red card all day long.

SEPT 23 1989

Dreadful fcuking challenge

Trigger

On replay that’s definitely a red

the whole year inn

Ref shouldn't be allowed to pick up his pay cheque.

blueser

That ref's having a horrendous game. Perfectly good goal by Bernie chalked off, and Cardiff should be down to 10 men.

billymitchell

Red card all day, ref bottled it

blueser

billymitchell wrote: »

Red card all day, ref bottled it

Happens regularly against us. Kane and Alli should both have walked, as should Puncheon.

Flincher

That's a horrendous tackle by Bennett. Live it just looked like a cynical trip but that's a leg breaker.

Only strengthens the case for the VAR. It's asking a lot for the ref to spot that nastiness of that challenge at live speed. I reckon most of us only spotted it on the 2nd replay.

Turtwig

Sane off. Probably precaution

blueser

We've tailed off a lot in this half. We just need to be careful not to let Cardiff snare a goal and get the crowd going.

Mr.Crinklewood

That woke me up.

Decent shot.

Mr.Crinklewood

Fantastic pass

pjohnson

This whole VAR thing is just more ridiculous by the day.


Yesterday the referee "needs" it to confirm that SIX West Brom players were offside.

Today its absent when it would have actually prevented Sane being wrongly flagged and Cardiff a man down!

blueser

Good bloody riddance. He should have gone a long time ago.

blueser

Warnock living up to his Colin nickname there, bitching to the ref. He should be thankful the ref was as woeful as he was.

the whole year inn

Pep dead right to nail into those refs, were a joke. They didn't protect the players. Second half was a training session.

Tom.D.BJJ

blueser wrote: »

Warnock living up to his Colin nickname there, bitching to the ref

No mention of Pep doing the same thing?

Tom.D.BJJ

the whole year inn wrote: »

Pep dead right to nail into those refs, were a joke. They didn't protect the players. Second half was a training session.

No one thought the first half challenge was a red until slo mo.

blueser

Tom.D.BJJ wrote: »

No mention of Pep doing the same thing?

I hope I'm wrong, but I'd worry about Sane, having seen Pep's reaction there. Which he was fully justified in doing. Cardiff just seemed to want to kick us all afternoon. With precious little protection from the ref. Warnock, on the other hand, had nothing to whinge about.

Loafing Oaf

Shout out from the BBC to Mark E RIP.:):(

pjohnson

blueser wrote: »

I hope I'm wrong, but I'd worry about Sane, having seen Pep's reaction there. Which he was fully justified in doing. Cardiff just seemed to want to kick us all afternoon. With precious little protection from the ref. Warnock, on the other hand, had nothing to whinge about.

Ye arent that fragile. While the tackles were bad not every challenge warrants a red. Tackling is still allowed

the whole year inn

Tom.D.BJJ wrote: »

No one thought the first half challenge was a red until slo mo.

Which tackle you referring to, and let's not mention the farce that was the disallowed goal.
Pep dead right to give them hell.

blueser

pjohnson wrote: »

Ye arent that fragile. While the tackles were bad not every challenge warrants a red. Tackling is still allowed

So that justifies some of the, er, "robust" challenges then, does it? And please show me where I said every tackle was a red. If the ref had done his job in the first half, and sent Bennett off, it would have sent out a message to Cardiff, that they couldn't get away with an overly physical approach.

Sane out for two or three weeks with an ankle injury. Just as well we're not fragile, eh?

pjohnson

blueser wrote: »

So that justifies some of the, er, "robust" challenges then, does it? And please show me where I said every tackle was a red. If the ref had done his job in the first half, and sent Bennett off, it would have sent out a message to Cardiff, that they couldn't get away with an overly physical approach.

Yes Bennet was a straight red but I just meant terms like "robust" and "overly physical" are a bit OTT. I mean being totally honest you surely have to admit that Fernandinho and Kompany used to love big hard tackles (before ye started to dominate possession as much in Fernandinho's case and before Kompany's legs broke down). With a few exceptions a lot of you're players are of a slight build and will come off worse in a 50/50. It doesn't stop it being a 50/50.

Just saw your edit RE. Sane well that was inflicted by Bennett in the clearly awful tackle. You have taken issue it appears with much more than just his tackle.

Turtwig

pjohnson wrote: »

Ye arent that fragile. While the tackles were bad not every challenge warrants a red. Tackling is still allowed

Hell of a straw man there.

Complaining about instances of X does not mean the complaint applies to all of X. By your logic complaining about dangerous driving equates to wanting all drivers banned. The point being everyone wants safer roads.

pjohnson

Turtwig wrote: »

Hell of a straw man there.

Complaining about instances of X does not mean the complaint applies to all of X. By your logic complaining about dangerous driving equates to wanted all drivers banned.

Meh. Just noticed this poster complaining about tackles on City players in nearly every match they play, regularly citing Palace and Spurs games (I guess this can be added to the list).

sReq | uTeK

blueser wrote: »

So that justifies some of the, er, "robust" challenges then, does it? And please show me where I said every tackle was a red. If the ref had done his job in the first half, and sent Bennett off, it would have sent out a message to Cardiff, that they couldn't get away with an overly physical approach.

Sane out for two or three weeks with an ankle injury. Just as well we're not fragile, eh?

Sanchez was kicked to death by Yeovil. Get up get on with it you’re playing in the Fa cup not the ****ing copa del rey

blueser

Turtwig wrote: »

Hell of a straw man there.

Complaining about instances of X does not mean the complaint applies to all of X. By your logic complaining about dangerous driving equates to wanting all drivers banned. The point being everyone wants safer roads.

Agreed. Excellent post.

Tom Mann Centuria

Good on Cardiff for doing what they tried to do. Lower league team, either stands by and politely clap with two fingers as City score cricket score, or they make it physical and hope for the best. You do what you can to try and win. It's not up to them to referee the game.

citytillidie

4th Round Results
Sheffield Wednesday 3 v 1 Reading
Yeovil Town 0 v 4 Manchester United
Peterborough United 1 v 5 Leicester City
Huddersfield Town 1 v 1 Birmingham City
Hull City 2 v 1 Nottingham Forest
Middlesbrough 0 v 1 Brighton & Hove Albion
Millwall 2 v 2 Rochdale
Milton Keynes Dons 0 v 1 Coventry City
Notts County 1 v 1 Swansea City
Sheffield United 1 v 0 Preston North End
Southampton 1 v 0 Watford
Wigan Athletic 2 v 0 West Ham United
Newport County 1 v 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Liverpool 2 v 3 West Bromwich Albion
Chelsea 3 v 0 Newcastle United
Cardiff City 0 v 2 Manchester City

Replays
Tuesday 6th February
Birmingham City V Huddersfield Town
Rochdale V Millwall
Swansea City V Notts County

Wednesday 7th February
Tottenham Hotspur V Newport County

the whole year inn

pjohnson wrote: »

Yes Bennet was a straight red but I just meant terms like "robust" and "overly physical" are a bit OTT. I mean being totally honest you surely have to admit that Fernandinho and Kompany used to love big hard tackles (before ye started to dominate possession as much in Fernandinho's case and before Kompany's legs broke down). With a few exceptions a lot of you're players are of a slight build and will come off worse in a 50/50. It doesn't stop it being a 50/50.

Just saw your edit RE. Sane well that was inflicted by Bennett in the clearly awful tackle. You have taken issue it appears with much more than just his tackle.

Your not taking about the game in hand and trying to make it OK what happened tonight is OK because Kompany and Fernandinho is able and can give back bad tackles like the ones tonight.
I don't mind some pulling and draggin but the refs tonight where bad.
Bennett should have been off with the first tackle and he only injured one player.

citytillidie

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Is VAR only getting used at certain televised games, maybe an app for it plus the use of the big screen for those at the ground without a phone, weird they've not used it here today.

Can only be used in premier league grounds

the whole year inn

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

Good on Cardiff for doing what they tried to do. Lower league team, either stands by and politely clap with two fingers as City score cricket score, or they make it physical and hope for the best. You do what you can to try and win. It's not up to them to referee the game.

《Snip》, your basically saying its OK what happened in the game as long as they got away with it.

Tom Mann Centuria

the whole year inn wrote: »

《Snip》, your basically saying its OK what happened in the game as long as they got away with it.

Going to guess the snipped bit wasn't warm and cuddly? :pac:

I'm saying if a lower league team can physically bully a team out of it, then yes, that's what they should try.

I'm sure retrospective action will follow from the FA if required.

the whole year inn

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

Going to guess the snipped bit wasn't warm and cuddly? :pac:

I'm saying if a lower league team can physically bully a team out of it, then yes, that's what they should try.

I'm sure retrospective action will follow from the FA if required.

Was called uncivil. But let you get away with saying its OK to sledge players wheres your warning?

Tom Mann Centuria

the whole year inn wrote: »

Was called uncivil. But let you get away with saying its OK to sledge players wheres your warning?

Sledging players? New one on me outside of cricket.

GavRedKing

When's the draw for the next round?

the whole year inn

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

Sledging players? New one on me outside of cricket.

Really?Out of context you know what it means.

Panthro

the whole year inn wrote: »

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

Going to guess the snipped bit wasn't warm and cuddly? :pac:

I'm saying if a lower league team can physically bully a team out of it, then yes, that's what they should try.

I'm sure retrospective action will follow from the FA if required.

Was called uncivil. But let you get away with saying its OK to sledge players wheres your warning?

I'd be lying if I said I knew it was Peter Gabriel who sang "Sledgehammer" and not Phil Collins.

...dum dum... sledgehammer!

DJIMI TRARORE

GavRedKing wrote: »

When's the draw for the next round?

On The 1 Show tomoro at 7,BBC 1

Tom Mann Centuria

the whole year inn wrote: »

Really?Out of context you know what it means.

I know what it means in cricket. I presume you mean players being physical as much as they can get away with? Which is not like cricket.

billymitchell

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

Going to guess the snipped bit wasn't warm and cuddly? :pac:

I'm saying if a lower league team can physically bully a team out of it, then yes, that's what they should try.

I'm sure retrospective action will follow from the FA if required.

The FA can't do anything as the ref dealt with it at the time. It's another nonsense rule that needs changing. Although, maybe VAR may reduce the amount of these tackles that don't get the correct punishment in future