Eurovision 2018

alchemist33

thelad95 wrote: »

Part of me would think it would be something of a hollow victory if we won, the staging is definitely what got us through in the semi final, if it had just been Ryan on his own, we wouldn’t have gotten through.

Are the exact results of the semi finals available anywhere?

I agree it would be a little hollow but its the nature of the beast. In a competition where many of the voters hear a song once, anything that lifts it out of the ordinary makes it stick in people's minds, whether it be a gimmick, staging or an unusual genre. We've played the Eurovision game badly in recent years with bland by-the-numbers entries and even if the song falls into that category this year, somebody had a lightbulb moment and the great bunch of lads in China have played right into our hands.

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thelad95 wrote: »

Part of me would think it would be something of a hollow victory if we won, the staging is definitely what got us through in the semi final, if it had just been Ryan on his own, we wouldn’t have gotten through.

Are the exact results of the semi finals available anywhere?

One key indicator is that the price was about 66/1 just after the cull of SF1, so to move so quickly overnight from that to into 9/1 or so could be due to the social media eu queens outrage at the China powerhouse.

There could be a boycott of importing any chinese goods, but we'd be left with just pitchforks, moonshine and strawbales.

Chris Wooden Motorbike

Chris Wooden Motorbike wrote: »

One key indicator is that the price was about 66/1 just after the cull of SF1, so to move so quickly overnight from that to into 9/1 or so could be due to the social media eu queens outrage at the China powerhouse.

There could be a boycott of importing any chinese goods, but we'd be left with just pitchforks, moonshine and strawbales.

The China thing probably didn't do any harm, but the odds started moving when the draw was released. It's as perfect a draw as we could have possibly hoped for.

Simon201

leahyl wrote: »

Eeek I’m actually getting excited now!

Tell me about it!

(don't mind the bets each side:o)

EPAndlee

Theres a little part of me that believes we can win this

davyboy1975

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

What do you good people think of the UK entry?

Seems kinda bland to me, you'd think in a country of over 60 million that they would be able to come up with a good song.

True but the uk dont really care that much anymore I wouldnt think as they are guaranteed to be in the finals every year so can throw any kind of rubbish into the competition

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Flying Fox wrote: »

The China thing probably didn't do any harm, but the odds started moving when the draw was released. It's as perfect a draw as we could have possibly hoped for.

Draw sequence probably assisted it greatly also, but every media house and newspaper has ran with the China angle.

gmisk

davyboy1975 wrote: »

True but the uk dont really care that much anymore I wouldnt think as they are guaranteed to be in the finals every year so can throw any kind of rubbish into the competition

It isn't a great song it could well finish in bottom couple of places.

Tbh it wasn't even the best song in the UK final, asanda - legends could have done better but her vocals were a bit dodgy live so they went for SuRie.

Brian017

Given where we stood on Tuesday afternoon; Top 10 would be unbelievable, Top 5 would be crazy, winning would be unthinkable

4068ac1elhodqr

Hopefully sense will previal, and the Flatlanders will win it, with their 100/1 (5pl) tune, featuring real guitars.

Still can't believe FYR Maca didn't qualify, then again they made a mess of live performance, even the backing singers were out of sync.
The nice Swiss lady gave it a good whack at the live performance, but even that wasn't enough sadly.

Germany could be the main competition for 5th place.

dubrov

It would make a mockery of the contest if we win this. No way is that song top 10 let alone top 3.

SleetAndSnow

dubrov wrote: »

It would make a mockery of the contest if we win this. No way is that song top 10 let alone top 3.

*In your opinion. I think its quite good and catchy compared to some of the songs and actually has thought put into it.

Mahony0509

dubrov wrote: »

It would make a mockery of the contest if we win this. No way is that song top 10 let alone top 3.

It obviously is if the betting is leaning towards it. Just because you decide it isn't, doesn't mean it isn't.

jimbobaloobob

Information leaked about Tuesday night that showed how well Ireland did in the vote that has caused the increase in interest.

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Mahony0509 wrote: »

It obviously is if the betting is leaning towards it. Just because you decide it isn't, doesn't mean it isn't.

The betting also had it around 250/1 right before the semi-final.
The fact that it's now down to 7/1 is hype-r-bollox-bandwagon-ology.

Try_harder

Here at the Jury Final- Spain went down a storm I was bored...

Try_harder

Slovenia Pussy Cat Dolls- nyeh

Try_harder

Austria- Id give him 12- oh he could give me his 12...

dubrov

Chris Wooden Motorbike wrote:

The betting also had it around 250/1 right before the semi-final. The fact that it's now down to 7/1 is hype-r-bollox-bandwagon-ology.

Exactly. No way you can move from 250/1 to 7/1 on the performance alone. It's clearly politics

gmisk

Try_harder wrote: »

Here at the Jury Final- Spain went down a storm I was bored...

They have a shocking draw though, I am not a huge fan of it either

yerwanthere123

thelad95 wrote: »

Part of me would think it would be something of a hollow victory if we won, the staging is definitely what got us through in the semi final, if it had just been Ryan on his own, we wouldn’t have gotten through.

Are the exact results of the semi finals available anywhere?

No more hollow than Austria's win in 2014 or Sweden's in 2015 really ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Either way, I'd take it :pac:

EPAndlee

dubrov wrote: »

It would make a mockery of the contest if we win this. No way is that song top 10 let alone top 3.

I think it sums up modern mainstream music. A good looking young fella with just a guitar singing a sob song thats a modern trend that is so popular, it's what people like

Try_harder

Norway got the crowd going! I love the little imp

yerwanthere123

murpho999 wrote: »

This Eastern European thing is a myth.

Last few winners have been:

2017 Portugal
2016 Ukraine
2015 Sweden
2014 Austria
2013 Denmark
2012 Sweden
2011 Azerbaijan
2010 Germany


So last 8 years have seen only 2 East European countries win.

It nearly always come down to the song and the performance.

Um, no, it's not a myth. The EBU have changed the voting significantly to help alter the affects of the Eastern European bloc voting, but it's still there, just much less noticeable nowadays. Plus the fact that the West have significantly upped their game now we're playing on an almost even playing field.

Try_harder

Rybak def phoned in the semi. Much more impressive tonight for the juries.

Portugal painful

Try_harder

UK very popular- everyone basically sang the song with her!

Try_harder

Huge reception for France too!

c.p.w.g.w

What channel is it on?

thelad95

I think he’s at it, you can buy tickets to it but it’s not shown live on TV

Zhane

I hope I am proven wrong here, but I kind of agree that the betting odds area bit bandwagonary.

The China thing is buying exposure but I don't think the song has the legs to go up against a few other songs.

I hope we are at least on the left hand side with it though. top 10 is a dream. Top 5 I would love to be a fly on the wall in the RTE MDs office watching her sweat.

Also...can we put a roof on the Aviva to host it?

There are a few streams from the press room you can listen to, most of the main Eurovision blogs have one.
Australia sounded awful vocally, which is a shame as its one of the better songs. Finland up now.

c.p.w.g.w

thelad95 wrote: »

I think he’s at it, you can buy tickets to it but it’s not shown live on TV

So it's not being broadcasted ?

Try_harder

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

So it's not being broadcasted ?

No! Strictly not for broadcast! (Visual)

Try_harder

So metal
Then psychedelic pop
Then country
Then us!

Deco99

What's happening? Are the judges at the event or watching from a closed broadcast?

Try_harder

Hungary frightened me!
Huge anticipation for isreal!

So many gay Jews in one place! Hitler would be pissed off!

Try_harder

Deco99 wrote: »

What's happening? Are the judges at the event or watching from a closed broadcast?

At the event is my understanding

Mahony0509

Odds have dropped slightly again. Wouldn't be surprised if we were second favourites with the bookies by tomorrow night.

Try_harder

Isreal blew the roof off!!!
Stick your money on it!

Try_harder

Take me down to paradise city!
This is awful!

SleetAndSnow

Some pretty big cheers for Ireland from the stream im listening too

Try_harder

Ireland again very well received- felt he sang better tonight

SleetAndSnow

Dont see the attraction with Cyprus really, kinda eh vocals arent the best.. very kinda flat i think

Try_harder

Isreal threw down the gauntlet, Cyprus just picked it up and set it on Fire! Fuego!

EPAndlee

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Dont see the attraction with Cyprus really, kinda eh vocals arent the best.. very kinda flat i think

Sure you don't watch a porn film for the plot

Try_harder

Italy boring me

c.p.w.g.w

Why isn't it being broadcasted?

SleetAndSnow

EPAndlee wrote: »

Sure you don't watch a porn film for the plot

pfft

Mahony0509

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Why isn't it being broadcasted?

It's the jury final. It's not the actual voting final.

Try_harder

Cyprus 12
Isreal 10
Finland 8
France 7
UK 6
Austria 5
Australia 4
Norway 3
Ireland 2
Bulgaria 1