Eurovision 2018

gmisk

Chris Wooden Motorbike wrote: »

Isr's novelty may turn out to be short lived between now and May, but this tune from the flatlanders below might outlive all of the other europop tunes.
It's perhaps also the most original entry (and not in a novelty manner), that could produce a 16/1 winner particularly for the live tele-vote.

https://eurovision.tv/participant/waylon

Early prediciton:

Neth: 1st
Bulg: 2nd
Isra: 3rd
Nor/Swe: 4th
Fra: 5th

I dont think the Netherlands song is original at all tbh.....I also dont think its a patch on the other entry he was involved with (Calm after the storm).
I can see it finishing in the top 10 no bother.
Would love to see Bulgaria song doing that well it is terrific.
I think the Norway song is BRUTAL, I cant see it doing that well even with Alexander Rybak returning. Returning artist dont tend to do too well (Bar Johnny Logan - Charlotte Perrelli, Niamh Kavanagh, Dana International, even Lena didnt do brilliantly).

The outsiders that are really growing on me are Azerbaijan (revamped version is a lot better) and Macedonia, they might surprise a few people and finish high.

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gmisk wrote: »

I dont think the Netherlands song is original at all tbh.....I also dont think its a patch on the other entry he was involved with (Calm after the storm).
I can see it finishing in the top 10 no bother.
Would love to see Bulgaria song doing that well it is terrific.
I think the Norway song is BRUTAL, I cant see it doing that well even with Alexander Rybak returning. Returning artist dont tend to do too well (Bar Johnny Logan - Charlotte Perrelli, Niamh Kavanagh, Dana International, even Lena didnt do brilliantly).

The outsiders that are really growing on me are Azerbaijan (revamped version is a lot better) and Macedonia, they might surprise a few people and finish high.

Netherlands: Not original, but in the context of EV it is, no one else has a telecaster and a slide on a steel guitar. Add in a few flashing lights and should be in the top5 at least from live viewers. Better than last yrs which still did well.

Azerbaijan: You could be right, Norway now looking slightly limp but fits the atypical europop mold, and the books have been running it short (20% of odds from just days ago).

The Azerbijiggies do have a habit of sending lovely ladies with well constructed songs. When you add in voting trends, could well swap out the Norwegians for this.

Other notes: The Czech entry (teleported in from the 80's) may have made the same mistake as Norway i.e. double cheese on a cheese layer. They had one of the best songs last year, and still failed to qualify which demonstrates the fuzzy logic of the whole EV.

Sweden follows a similar theme to these two, but with slightly more credibility, possible top5. Many of the other entries this year are very dark and dire.

Amik

dogcat wrote: »

Nobody in Russia has ever threatened to ban the video, the video he shared on Twitter has no sources whatsoever of any Russian broadcaster threatening to ban the video, it merely says it "could" be, not that anyone has actually threatened to ban it whatsoever.

I think Ryan's just being stupid now.

https://twitter.com/Ryan_Acoustic/status/973985844922081280

gmisk

Amik wrote: »

I think Ryan's just being stupid now.

https://twitter.com/Ryan_Acoustic/status/973985844922081280

Er very silly....I cant find any mention anywhere of it being banned....I think he is more trying to drum up some interest.

Go Harvey Go

gmisk wrote: »

Er very silly....I cant find any mention anywhere of it being banned....I think he is more trying to drum up some interest.

Dare I say this - but if that's the case, it could backfire...

Welsh Megaman

RIP Former Eurovision host Katie Boyle

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/entertainment-arts-43472264

yerwanthere123

Forgot to comment on the much-hyped Bulgarian release. I like it, but feels like they tried a bit too hard? Staging will make it or break it I feel. Not sure how it'll work with five of them on stage.

So, who are we predicting to qualify from the semi's?

I don't think SF1 is quite the bloodbath people are making out. I have Belgium, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Estonia, Israel and probably Greece as definite qualifiers, I'm throwing Armenia and Azerbaijan in there as well because they almost always qualify. The two remaining two spots are a bit difficult to predict, Finland should be safe if they improve on that utter mess of a national final performance. Austria and Cyprus are both doing well in the fan polls but I can't really see it with either. Lithuania is sweet and has a certain charm, and Macedonia is really growing on me. I wouldn't even completely rule out Ireland if they get the staging right. So, my pre-Eurovision week prediction to make the final from SF1:

To qualify
Belgium
Bulgaria
Czech Republic
Estonia
Israel
Greece
Armenia
Azerbaijan
Finland
Lithuania

Missing out:
Austria
Cyprus
Ireland
Macedonia
Albana
Belarus
Iceland
Croatia
Switzerland

Iceland and Switzerland are the only complete no-hopers imo, the others you can make some case for. Will post my thoughts on SF2 later.

LordBasil

SF1 could witness;

FYR Macedonia's 6th consecutive NQ
Ireland's 5th consecutive NQ
Finland's. Switzerland's &/or Iceland's 4th consecutive NQ
Albania's 3rd Consecutive NQ
Lithuania's 2nd Consecutive NQ
and possibly Azerbaijan's 1st Ever NQ!

I'd like to see FYR Macedonia, Finland and, of course, Ireland qualify.

Everyone (Fans, Bookies etc) seem to have written off Ireland even though I really like our song, probably my 2nd favourite Irish Entry of the 21st Century (after Lipstick 2011). If they can get the staging right and Ryan delivers it well vocally and emotionally, I believe we have a chance. As it is the slowest song in the 2nd Half it should stand out against the dramatic/uptempo songs around it.

I don't believe Armenia is a safe qualifier as most Armenian Friendly/Diaspora Heavy countries are voting in Semi 2 (Russia, Georgia, France....) It'll need strong Jury support to stand a chance. Azerbaijan is also on shaky ground being in the 1st Half surrounded by so many favourites....

My predicted qualifiers;
Israel (Totally Bonkers but entertaining)
Estonia (Powerful)
Belgium (Sophisticated)
Czech Rep (Catchy)
Bulgaria (Dramatic)
Austria (Soulful)
2 out of Azerbaijan, Finland and Cyprus (Can't see them all qualifying as that would be too many up-tempo songs through)

The other 2 spots are up for grabs by pretty much everyone else, it will all depend on staging and performance. We'll know more once the rehearsals start. I am going to be a nervous wreck on 8th May!!! C'Mon Ireland!!

yerwanthere123

SF2 seems a bit more clear-cut than SF1, and the drop in quality is nowhere near as bad as many are stating. I think Australia, The Netherlands, Russia unfortunately, Norway, Romania, Poland, Sweden and Ukraine will all qualify pretty easily. The last two place seems like it could be a toss up between a few countries. Denmark might get a strong televote, and I think the juries might appreciate Latvia. Think it's possible Hungary might get a strong televote, or maybe the juries will get behind Georgia? Don't know, can't really call it.

To qualify:
Australia
The Netherlands
Russia
Norway
Romania
Poland
Sweden
Ukraine
Denmark
Latvia

Missing out
Moldova
San Marino
Serbia
Georgia
Hungary
Malta
Montenegro
Slovenia

dogcat

I think Hungary's coming top three in SF 02, if not winning it.

Amik

LordBasil wrote: »

and possibly Azerbaijan's 1st Ever NQ!

I see this coming too. It's a well produced song and the singer is talented/attractive, but I have NO CLUE what the song is about:

I’ll never sto o o o op, luna moon me up
Misty moon I'm your loon
luna moon me up
I’am stronger than cannonballs

The crescent moon in the video made me think it was something Islamic. :P

It has almost all the same ingredients as their 2010 entry, which did very well (5th in the Final).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOKGZb38e5c

Oh Safura!

Go Harvey Go

Amik wrote: »

The crescent moon in the video made me think it was something Islamic. :P

Most Azerbaijanis are of a Shiite Muslim background.

However, it's also the case that most Azerbaijanis do not actively practice any religion. In fact, the country's constitution doesn't even declare an official religion...

LordBasil

RIP Lys Assia. The 1st winner of Eurovision who has died aged 94

Amik

Sample of Macedonia performing live at a recent event. Marija sounds just as good as in the studio version.

The chorus live (at least in this performance) doesn't have quite the same "Umph" as in the video, but maybe the Eurovision stage/production/camera work will fix that.

https://twitter.com/esc_macedonia/status/976802187140567041

Crowd looks a bit dead. :P

Strazdas

Ryan O'Shaughnessy has premiered his song at a Eurovision event in Lisbon : just a simple, stripped back acoustic version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA_JXtckogg

Amik

Strazdas wrote: »

Ryan O'Shaughnessy has premiered his song at a Eurovision event in Lisbon : just a simple, stripped back acoustic version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA_JXtckogg

50x better than our entry last year. It's a proper, heartfelt song. I'm expecting this to be a surprise qualifier for the final.

Need to go sit in silence for a few minutes after listening to this rendition of A Million Voices by Suzy (Portugal, Eurovision 2014) at the same event:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmVmtXISOr4

mailburner

estonia were available at 10s when the israeli song was made public, since then the odds have shortened every few days and now best at 11/2

at the rate the odds are dropping it might be only 3/1 on the day
have a feeling the odds on israel might lengthen a bit

love the estonian song

Whitters22

mailburner wrote: »

estonia were available at 10s when the israeli song was made public, since then the odds have shortened every few days and now best at 11/2

at the rate the odds are dropping it might be only 3/1 on the day
have a feeling the odds on israel might lengthen a bit

love the estonian song

Yeah I'm on Estonia at 6's.

Have to say my favourite is Amaia and Alfred this year though, such love for this song.

The only thing against it is that a slow iberian ballad won last year 😊

mailburner

Whitters22 wrote: »

Yeah I'm on Estonia at 6's.

Have to say my favourite is Amaia and Alfred this year though, such love for this song.

The only thing against it is that a slow iberian ballad won last year ��

backed at 10s 8s 6s 11/2

all ew 4 places, would be a miracle if this wasn't in the first four even though I think it'll be in the first two (tho quietly confident it'll win)

that song last year was dire lol

the spanish song is nice too


the israeli song could win but I can't see it winning easily, some will hate it some will love it, not a fan myself

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Have to disagree with above, Elina Nechayeva is useful if you want wine glasses broken, or an early sleepy sleep bedtimes, but find it hard to get excited about (Estonia) at all.

Reckon folks will opt for hooks, drums and 35hz bass instead.

mailburner

Chris Wooden Motorbike wrote: »

Have to disagree with above, Elina Nechayeva is useful if you want wine glasses broken, or an early sleepy sleep bedtimes, but find it hard to get excited about (Estonia) at all.

Reckon folks will opt for hooks, drums and 35hz bass instead.

she's the best singer in the competition with the best song also imo.
I'm sure pavarotti broke many a wine glass too

now last years winning entry was the ultimate early sleepy sleep bedtime tune.

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mailburner wrote: »

she's the best singer in the competition with the best song also imo.
I'm sure pavarotti broke many a wine glass too

now last years winning entry was the ultimate early sleepy sleep bedtime tune.

Meh, we can agree to disagree. After last years indeed sleepy tune, surely they'll likely pick something more uptempo instead of slow ballad/waltz.

Such a wide range of tunes from country rock, electro, ethnic, metal and even a dash of reggae, and of course the likely winner that is best classed as 'avant garde'.

Only concentrating on EW wildcard markets, and there is a few that could snatch a 3/4th place. (top10 too, but after SF1/2 only).

So few clues to the highly favourable 'x5 WildCards' are:

WC1. 'Noisey but Euphoric' @67
WC2. 'Med hot summer sizzling anthem' @100
WC3. 'Very Dua Lipa-esq' @250
WC4. 'Bonnie-Tyler-ish' @250 (Boyles have rightly hacked this one right back to just 40/1).
WC5. 'Repetitive Ljubljanan Euro-Pole-Dancing' tune (500/1, but safer for Top10 finish @34).

BuilderPlumber

Notice how low key Ireland, or should I say Irish media, is about its Eurovision entrants of late. Hardly a word about this years' entry.

Amik

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Notice how low key Ireland, or should I say Irish media, is about its Eurovision entrants of late. Hardly a word about this years' entry.

Lies!

https://www.herald.ie/news/rte-eurovision-bosses-confident-ryan-air-will-fly-36755054.html

Strazdas

New version of Ryan performing live in Lisbon last weekend :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUDpGiWwVn8

This is really good IMO

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Strazdas wrote: »

New version of Ryan performing live in Lisbon last weekend :

EUDpGiWwVn8 (YOUTUBE)
This is really good IMO

Sure the lad has some talent and capability with just voice and guitar, it's just not right for ESC, and certainly has no chance of a win or anything near the top 5.

The recording levels on this particular video are horrible, when the audio recording sound level line is flashing red or the 'clip' light is flashing, don't press record on the camera.

Ire is about 150/1, but it's sandwiched right between two other entries near the bottom of the market leaderboard that would prefer by a magnitude of x10. One had some rapid market shortening just today on the exchanges and plenty of good comments on the esc blogs.

Strazdas

Chris Wooden Motorbike wrote: »

Sure the lad has some talent and capability with just voice and guitar, it's just not right for ESC, and certainly has no chance of a win or anything near the top 5.

The recording levels on this particular video are horrible, when the audio recording sound level line is flashing red or the 'clip' light is flashing, don't press record on the camera.

Ire is about 150/1, but it's sandwiched right between two other entries near the bottom of the market leaderboard that would prefer by a magnitude of x10. One had some rapid market shortening just today on the exchanges and plenty of good comments on the esc blogs.

Nobody is expecting Ireland to win or go top 5. Competition is red hot these days with 43 songs, even getting out of the semi final is an achievement. I'd say if he can even get into the final, he'll be happy enough.

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Strazdas wrote: »

Nobody is expecting Ireland to win or go top 5. Competition is red hot these days with 43 songs, even getting out of the semi final is an achievement. I'd say if he can even get into the final, he'll be happy enough.

Currently joint 2nd last just to make it into the top 10.

Chances of even qualifying into the final are pretty low indeed, stands currently at joint 6th last on the market.

There's better quality than last year, and a much wider range of genre, of course there's some very obscure ethnic ones too.

This entry is akin to background music, or something you'd hear for 15secs in a film score, it's not a bad song, but quickly fades into insignificance among all the others.

mailburner

Chris Wooden Motorbike wrote: »

Currently joint 2nd last just to make it into the top 10.

Chances of even qualifying into the final are pretty low indeed, stands currently at joint 6th last on the market.

There's better quality than last year, and a much wider range of genre, of course there's some very obscure ethnic ones too.

This entry is akin to background music, or something you'd hear for 15secs in a film score, it's not a bad song, but quickly fades into insignificance among all the others.

It's barely an average tune which has no chance of even qualifying like you've pointed out...actually it's borderline terrible!

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mailburner wrote: »

It's barely an average tune which has no chance of even qualifying like you've pointed out...actually it's borderline terrible!

Agree, it brings little to the party, but is fine for a busking, backtrack to a movie or something else. Also don't get the female backing vocal part when the video suggests it should be a dude, ah well.

Have noticed one oddity on the market (the one that sounds like Heart meets BonnieTyler) is probably correctly marked short @41 by one place, among the sea of 150/1's, and even 250/1!

There's four wilcards altogether that may well get 3rd in their own SF or nab 4th overall.

Amik

The running order for the Semi Finals are announced.

Ireland will perform 2nd last.

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Amik wrote: »

The running order for the Semi Finals are announced.

Ireland will perform 2nd last.

..And may be quickly forgotten by the time uptempo Cyprus 2’55” drop their pre-chorus hook at just 40secs (inc 10sec of titles roll).

Featuring the lovely Eleni Foureira, and likely adorned in a red leather catsuit, along with a choreographed dance troupe. Their song builds steady ascending structure (precisely every 10seconds) right into the bridge/post-chorus 1’20”.



Sure-fire SF1 qualifiers (IMO) on 8th May:

Azerbijig, Czech, Isr, Bulgaria, FYR, Cyprus. + Another 4 spaces (total 10). Odds suggest Estonia & Belgium are up there, but neither float my boat.

Grand Final is 10+10+ the 6 'autos'.

SF1 is tough enough, and essentially only has just 8places available once you exclude the obvious two certainties, and has one more entry compared to SF2.

Ire are currently estimated 14th from the 19 in this by the markets, although they're 1 place ahead of 15th (FYR Macedonia), believe FYR's unusual reggae switch is one of the dark horses in the entire competition will grow on folks.

Strazdas

Interview with Ryan in Portugal. He says they haven't decided the staging yet and are still looking at different ideas as to how the song should be presented :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFu1tdWwveA

Looking at the running order it's hard to say whether it's good or bad for Ireland, given how competitive Semi 1 is. I think it could have been worse though. A quiet, mellow acoustic number may be welcome at the end of the night while voter fatigue has set in over the more "energetic" entries. I think the biggest losers from the Semi 1 draw are Lithuania and Belarus (both sandwiched between two favourites) and also FYR Macedonia, who would have been hoping for a later slot to linger in the mind.

I still think there are 7 certain qualifiers from Semi 1: Belgium, Czech Republic, Israel, Estonia, Bulgaria, Austria and Greece.
The remaining three spots are up for grabs, with only Iceland doomed to non-qualification.
Right now, if I had to guess, I'd go for Finland, Armenia and Cyprus to take the final three spots. But it will be very close.

For Semi 2 the biggest loser is Romania; I normally hate Romanian ESC entries and roll my eyes when they inevitably qualify, whereas this year I actually quite like their entry but it's got a terrible position going 2nd after Norway. Don't think any other country in Semi 2 is affected for better or worse.

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Deleted User wrote: »

...I think the biggest losers from the Semi 1 draw are Lithuania and Belarus (both sandwiched between two favourites) and also FYR Macedonia, who would have been hoping for a later slot to linger in the mind.

...For Semi 2 the biggest loser is Romania; I normally hate Romanian ESC entries and roll my eyes when they inevitably qualify, whereas this year I actually quite like their entry but it's got a terrible position going 2nd after Norway. Don't think any other country in Semi 2 is affected for better or worse.

Would consider these two as the half that make up my wildcards, FYR Macedonia, have a brave offering, but indeed could suffer from mid-point or tea-break fatigue.

That Romanian entry is a decent offering, but a terrible position. Has been compared to Canadian 80's rockers Heart, vocals are 'Eclipse of the Heart-esq'.
Someone over at Boyles must agree as is priced at 40/1 whereas around 250/1 elsewhere.

Both these outsiders are possible contenders for top10 finish.

Last week France went up the charts, today it's Italy, neither of which I can recall, so both likely hook-deficient in substance.

Strazdas

Deleted User wrote: »

Looking at the running order it's hard to say whether it's good or bad for Ireland, given how competitive Semi 1 is. I think it could have been worse though. A quiet, mellow acoustic number may be welcome at the end of the night while voter fatigue has set in over the more "energetic" entries. I think the biggest losers from the Semi 1 draw are Lithuania and Belarus (both sandwiched between two favourites) and also FYR Macedonia, who would have been hoping for a later slot to linger in the mind.

I still think there are 7 certain qualifiers from Semi 1: Belgium, Czech Republic, Israel, Estonia, Bulgaria, Austria and Greece.
The remaining three spots are up for grabs, with only Iceland doomed to non-qualification.
Right now, if I had to guess, I'd go for Finland, Armenia and Cyprus to take the final three spots. But it will be very close.

For Semi 2 the biggest loser is Romania; I normally hate Romanian ESC entries and roll my eyes when they inevitably qualify, whereas this year I actually quite like their entry but it's got a terrible position going 2nd after Norway. Don't think any other country in Semi 2 is affected for better or worse.

I'd much sooner go late in the running order with the Irish entry than anywhere near the first half with all those favourites in it.

Incidentally it's a bit of an urban myth that the No.2 draw is the worst in the semis (people are confusing this with no No.2 ever winning the grand final). It's actually No.3 that is the worst position of all statistically.

I think Finland or Cyprus could knock the other out btw. I'm not convinced there's room for both.

Strazdas

Strazdas wrote: »

I'd much sooner go late in the running order with the Irish entry than anywhere near the first half with all those favourites in it.

Incidentally it's a bit of an urban myth that the No.2 draw is the worst in the semis (people are confusing this with no No.2 ever winning the grand final). It's actually No.3 that is the worst position of all statistically.

It's not just about the position in the running order but what comes before and after. If Romania was second but, say, directly after Montenegro and directly before San Marino, then it would come across better (it's livelier than the former and more professional than the latter). But given Norway is such a high energy number (and, whether you love or hate the song, Rybak is a great showman), Romania will seem very dreary by comparison. Which is a shame, as I actually quite like "Goodbye".

Current prediction for Semi 2: Norway, Denmark, Russia, The Netherlands, Australia, Poland, Hungary, Sweden, Slovenia and Ukraine

I'd personally rather see Serbia and Georgia go through ahead of Denmark and Poland but they're rather unusual songs and I'm not sure Europe will "get" them. On the other hand I suspect Hungary might do a lot better than people expect. I may be completely wrong about Slovenia though.

I think Finland or Cyprus could knock the other out btw. I'm not convinced there's room for both.

They could both be through or they could both be out, it's so hard to tell. Azerbaijan and Croatia could be vying for the same votes as well, and even Israel will probably take some from Finland. Cyprus has the advantage of a guaranteed 12 points from Greece, of course!

Strazdas

Deleted User wrote: »

They could both be through or they could both be out, it's so hard to tell. Azerbaijan and Croatia could be vying for the same votes as well, and even Israel will probably take some from Finland. Cyprus has the advantage of a guaranteed 12 points from Greece, of course!

A complicating factor is that a lot of Semi 1 songs have yet to be seen live : Belgium, Israel, Bulgaria, Austria, Greece, Cyprus etc

Amik

Deleted User wrote: »

I may be completely wrong about Slovenia though.

Nah, I think Slovenia WILL get through. Just check out her Salvador impression, pure talent!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTj15mj7iOc

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Amik wrote: »

Nah, I think Slovenia WILL get through. Just check out her Salvador impression, pure talent!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

But Slovenia is the Eastern-Euro-Lap-danicng club techno song, nothing like Portugal's Salvador.

Amik

London Eurovision Party was last night with many acts present.

I was most interested in seeing how Bulgaria would fare and I must say I'm very impressed!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7PfbdMQrKs

Ryan also had a decent guitar-free performance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF4p8Pl3OmY

gmisk

Amik wrote: »

London Eurovision Party was last night with many acts present.

I was most interested in seeing how Bulgaria would fare and I must say I'm very impressed!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7PfbdMQrKs

Ryan also had a decent guitar-free performance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF4p8Pl3OmY

Wow wasnt sure the bulgaria song would hold up live but...LOVE it.
Ryan has a great voice its just a pity song isnt better.

Amik

What are the chances of Israel failing to qualify for the final?

Mei Finegold came up during my work YouTube listening today. I remember she was top of the odds prior to Copenhagen. Her non-qualification was a shock.

We'll see Netta perform this week I believe (preparty in Israel). She seems very stationary behind her looper in the videos I've seen, whereas Mei had some amazing moves.

Love her backing dancers, wish they could follow me around. :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acOZVEN5XjE

gmisk

Amik wrote: »

What are the chances of Israel failing to qualify for the final?

Mei Finegold came up during my work YouTube listening today. I remember she was top of the odds prior to Copenhagen. Her non-qualification was a shock.

We'll see Netta perform this week I believe (preparty in Israel). She seems very stationery behind her looper in the videos I've seen, whereas Mei had some amazing moves.

Love her backing dancers, wish they could follow me around. :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acOZVEN5XjE

That was such a tune!

I dont think the israel song is nailed on to win....but would be a massive shock if it didnt qualify.

Amik

Speaking of stationary, I present Azerbaijan's Aisel at the Moscow Preparty...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1fhe2QgoYM

Maybe the crowd isn't dancing because they're busying recording with their phones?

gmisk

Amik wrote: »

Speaking of stationary, I present Azerbaijan's Aisel at the Moscow Preparty...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1fhe2QgoYM

Maybe the crowd isn't dancing because they're busying recording with their phones?

The vocals on that are....poor.....disappointing because it is catchy.
Also can people not just enjoy a bloody concert?!? would they prefer to just watch it through a phone screen? If so stay at home!

Amik

Will Netta be allowed to use the looper/sampler machine on stage? It's quite cool and something we've never seen at Eurovision before...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA3cCALqO5A

She seems like a lot of fun!

Busi_Girl08

Amik wrote: »

Will Netta be allowed to use the looper/sampler machine on stage? It's quite cool and something we've never seen at Eurovision before...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA3cCALqO5A

She seems like a lot of fun!

Looks like she is, it's no problem since she's using it live!

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Busi_Girl08 wrote: »

Looks like she is, it's no problem since she's using it live!

That appears to be an RC-505:

Five simultaneous stereo phrase tracks, with dedicated controls and independent volume faders each with pan, fade. +99 sentence phrases each with 5-sub tracks. Tempo sync allows for live delivery. Add in Ring Mod, Slow Gear, Pitch Bend.

May even run an additional loop sequence with the RC-202 on the mic stand.

Not much difference between this and the sax guy last year miming to a backing track, if anything more live/creative than others and just by using a €500 box.

Amik

Chris Wooden Motorbike wrote: »

That appears to be an RC-505:

Five simultaneous stereo phrase tracks, with dedicated controls and independent volume faders each with pan, fade. +99 sentence phrases each with 5-sub tracks. Tempo sync allows for live delivery. Add in Ring Mod, Slow Gear, Pitch Bend.

You don't just have a sharp eye for bets, but instruments too. :P

I'd love to try one of these!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJeNnw1Bz74