Eurovision 2018

bot43

Fair play Netta. Sher did what she needed to do to win. I thought israel pulled out of the Eurovision last year? Pity they didnt. Horrible nation.

It was an awful terrible song though. 2nd worst of the night behind the Hungarian screaming. And lets be honest, Fuego wasn't reallt that good either. A good dance routine from a hot woman is all it was.

FWIW, I called Austria to win on Tuesday. Head and shoulders above every other song in there. Denmark I loved too*. Slovenia, Finland and UK were all pretty decent as was Sweden. They are EV masters to be fair. And Moldova was definitely the most fun entry of the competition.

*Great tweet on Saturday night - "Pity the Danish singers will all be killed by the night king before the night is out".

Finally - was it only me or did one of Nettas handlers agressively push the Austrian dude away as she was going to the stage after her win was confirmed? Looked like the Austrian was going to congratulate her. Wonder was it because he is black?

gmisk

Grandeeod wrote: »

Yeah but this guy made physical contact with the performer.

He didnt but he had plenty of time to which was my point.


Tbh if some of the songs sound similar to other songs out there its probably because some of them are wrote by the same people i.e. swedes!


I didnt think the Bulgarian song sounded like a rip off to me.


Germany literally ripped of Sia/David Guetta - titanium before though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7pUKkSrXFY

The most lady gaga esque one for me was Finland.

KathleenGrant

sryanbruen wrote: »

The last "good" winner to me was Emmelie de Forest with her 'Only Teardrops' song in 2013.

That was a rip off of another song.

Welsh Megaman

Just in case you’ve forgotten, Moldova came tenth.

MOLDOVA.

Finished IN TENTH PLACE.

Grandeeod

gmisk wrote: »

He didnt but he had plenty of time to which was my point.


Tbh if some of the songs sound similar to other songs out there its probably because some of them are wrote by the same people i.e. swedes!


I didnt think the Bulgarian song sounded like a rip off to me.


Germany literally ripped of Sia/David Guetta - titanium before though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7pUKkSrXFY

The most lady gaga esque one for me was Finland.

He grabbed the mic out of her hand. Thats contact.

mistersifter

Mollyb60 wrote: »

I thought the Bulgarian one was the Sia/Lady Gaga rip off?

Of course there are quirky acts but I don't think Netta was ripping off Gaga or anyone else for that matter.

Just coz someone may sound like a certain performer doesn't mean it isn't a valid song. None of them were blatant rip offs that could be done for plagiarism.

Call it what you will, there was enough of Gaga and other such acts to suggest that originality wasn't Netta's strong point as suggested. As someone mentioned a few pages back, those makey-up words she uses are very Gaga.

I agree there were more than 1 guilty of being a poor womans' gaga/rihanna etc. It's not exactly a big surprise either. I dont think anyone expects Eurovision to exhibit much else, which is a pity as a more credible European songwriting event would be good to see.

AnneFrank

sure gaga is a total rip off of madonna, what's the point ?

mistersifter

The point was made clear in the post i.e. someone praised Netta for her originality. I disagree that her song/act was original, although that is not to say that good music always has to be totally original.

The other point = the songs in Eurovision are almost without exception, absolute sh*t and I would like to see a more credible songwriting event become as much of a big thing.

Galwayguy35

bot43 wrote: »

Finally - was it only me or did one of Nettas handlers agressively push the Austrian dude away as she was going to the stage after her win was confirmed? Looked like the Austrian was going to congratulate her. Wonder was it because he is black?

There was an argument over on Instagram about this, it looked like a push to me but others were saying he just left his hand on him to acknowledge the fact the Austrian was congratulating her.

Purple Mountain

Netta jumped on the girl power bandwagon uprising but what about the 'stupid boy' lyrics?
Can you imagine if their entry was a male singer and he was singing 'you stupid girl'.
Imagine the backlash from the feminist brigade!

honeybear

Welsh Megaman wrote: »

Just in case you’ve forgotten, Moldova came tenth.

MOLDOVA.

Finished IN TENTH PLACE.

Prefer Moldova to winner!

BorneTobyWilde

yerwanthere123

Is it safe to come back yet? :eek: Few delayed thoughts on Saturday night

This year proved to be as unpredictable as many of us had anticipated, primarily the huge discrepancies between the jury and public vote. Austria winning the jury vote was a huge shock and thoroughly undeserved, imo. I mean it was a nice enough song that plodded along, but I'd have put it low top ten at the very most. When the juries ridiculously put Sweden in second place I feared we were heading back to Sweden again, so naturally I was thrilled when they got their worst televote scores in many years.

Australia coming bottom of the televote was a big shock. The staging was poor and the vocals not the best, but for it to come rock bottom was harsh. Being in the middle of a very busy second half probably didn't help, and I'd guess some songs simply cancelled each other out. I think it's a bit early to speculate as to whether viewers are becoming less happy about Australia's continued presence in the competition, or whether some are pissed off that they were essentially lied to about Australia being a "guest" in the competition. However it's certainly clear that the novelty has worn off.

I'm disappointed but not shocked about Ireland's placing, I did allow myself to caught up in the hype a little. I think we deserved low top ten, certainly ahead of the likes of Moldova, but I can't complain too much. A reasonable effort from RTE this year, but I wouldn't be shocked at all if it's another 5 years before we make the final again.

Cutie 3.14

Welsh Megaman wrote: »

Just in case you’ve forgotten, Moldova came tenth.

MOLDOVA.

Finished IN TENTH PLACE.

Still singing that song so I am!

bot43

I thought Moldova was absolutely brilliant. Not worth the win, but top 5 for certain. It was a fun little show and catchy. Miles better than the winner thats for sure.

_Dara_

I actually missed the stage invasion the other night - looked away for about 10 seconds. :rolleyes:

Rewatching it, SuRie looks scared when she is doing the clapping and could you blame her? The stage invader is wearing a backpack. She must have been internally ****ting it. Poor girl.

And also, Marty Whelan takes the whole thing faaarrr to seriously. I watched on RTÉ rather than BBC as my husband didn't want to watch so I was viewing it via RTÉ Live on my phone. Constant griping about political voting. Snide comments about other acts. Relax Marty!

yerwanthere123

Bulgaria must be disappointed with their placing after all their efforts and the crazy hype they initially delivered, but I think it was simply a case of them trying too hard this year. Plus the image of Equinox was all wrong, and five on stage was too many. I think if they simplify their approach they'll be back as contenders in 2019.

Very disappointed for France, crazy to think they didn't even better Alma's placing! Overall not too surprised though, the song wasn't as good live, they didn't bring the message and above all else the song is a grower. It took me a solid two months of listening before I grew to love it.

To conclude! Hugely surprised at Italy's televote score, after 25 songs it sounded like a mumbled mess to me. Ireland and Britain evidently agreed, as both were among the few to give it zero in the televote Thrilled for the Czech Republic, a country that generally seems pretty indifferent to Eurovision, I hope Mikolas gets props from the Czech press. Lastly, felt very sad for SuRie, it was clear to see how much of a fright she got. I hope it didn't ruin her experience overall, she's been a great ambassador for the UK, just let down by a nice, but uninspired song.

M.Cribben

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

To conclude! Hugely surprised at Italy's televote score, after 25 songs it sounded like a mumbled mess to me. Ireland and Britain evidently agreed, as both were among the few to give it zero in the televote Thrilled for the Czech Republic, a country that generally seems pretty indifferent to Eurovision, I hope Mikolas gets props from the Czech press. Lastly, felt very sad for SuRie, it was clear to see how much of a fright she got. I hope it didn't ruin her experience overall, she's been a great ambassador for the UK, just let down by a nice, but uninspired song.

Glad I'm not the only one who thought that about Italy.

Really was the worst song and performance on the night, the type of song nobody would be surprised came last. But to actually finish ahead of Sweden, Czech Rep, Norway, Moldova? Crazy.
Overall apart from the results, I thought it was a really good Eurovision this year. Some cracking songs and performances across multiple genres on the night.

tayto lover

What was the thing with the two male dancers for Ireland. It looked very silly.

_Dara_

tayto lover wrote: »

What was the thing with the two male dancers for Ireland. It looked very silly.

I have to agree. The song just seemed like a backdrop to the dancing when it should be front and centre.

farmerwifelet

I think Ireland were looking to show how progressive we are by having two male dancers and the the whole controversy that went with it. but to be honest Ryan sounded very hoarse trying to hit the high notes and looked very smug. was an average song.

Surie did well but her song wasn;t that great either. i have to say the netherlands was one i enjoyed.

miocicmma

How can we support a Eurovision in Israel considering that they are doing to the Palestinian people. I thought Eurovision was about Unity and Equality? Israel goes against everything Eurovision stands for.

yerwanthere123

miocicmma wrote: »

How can we support a Eurovision in Israel considering that they are doing to the Palestinian people. I thought Eurovision was about Unity and Equality? Israel goes against everything Eurovision stands for.

Well the argument is that politics should be left out of it, but yeah I agree with you. Don't think it was posted on the thread but the lord mayor of Dublin has called for a boycott, whilst a petition calling for an Icelandic boycott has attracted 16,000 signatures. Now I don't expect that these will make one blind bit of difference, but at least someone is speaking up. It would've been interesting to see if Eurovision occurred a week later than it did whether or not Israel would still have won.

Of course, the final say on where it's held lies with the EBU, so if they deem Jerusalem unsafe and Israel refuse to host it elsewhere than we may not be heading to Israel at all next year.

Mr.Nice Guy

I would also be in favour of a boycott. Charlie McGettigan, who was part of Ireland's Eurovision winner in 1994, has also called for one:

McGettigan, who won the Eurovision for Ireland in 1994 with Paul Harrington and the song Rock 'n' Roll Kids, told Joe Duffy on RTRadio 1 that he thinks Ireland should boycott the event if it is not held in another country, or cancelled altogether.

"I think they need to make a decision, but if they don’t, I think we need to make the decision not to go," McGettigan said on Liveline on Tuesday.

"It was dreadful yesterday (Monday) seeing Netanyahu and the Trumps celebrating while people are dead."

Duffy asked whether such a statement would make a difference, pointing to photos of crowds welcoming Eurovision winner Netta home in Tel Aviv.

"I suppose life goes on," said McGettigan, adding that "it's a chance for the whole of Europe who are involved in Eurovision to make a statement and sort of say, 'Look, we don't agree with this'."

https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2018/0516/963838-charlie-mcgettigan-calls-for-eurovision-boycott/

I don't think future generations will look back kindly on countries throwing a big knees-up and 'having the craic' when Palestinians are being mistreated and slaughtered. To go is to condone Israel's behaviour.

AndyBoBandy

miocicmma wrote: »

How can we support a Eurovision in Israel considering that they are doing to the Palestinian people.

Like they've done for Australia in recent years, the EBU should invite Palestine to enter next year. (although it would seem odd having a country in the Middle East in a European singing competition... oh..)

Amik

Our beloved Marija from Macedonia didn't leave Eurovision empty handed -- she won our hearts AND the Barabara Dex Award. Not a surprise really. :P
http://wiwibloggs.com/2018/05/20/barbara-dex-award-2018-f-y-r-macedonias-eye-cue-win-eurovisions-worst-dressed/223426/

Amik

Our beloved Marija from Macedonia didn't leave Eurovision empty handed -- she won our hearts AND the Barabara Dex Award. Not a surprise really. :P
http://wiwibloggs.com/2018/05/20/barbara-dex-award-2018-f-y-r-macedonias-eye-cue-win-eurovisions-worst-dressed/223426/

handlemaster

Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »

What does the winner get?

I dont think she will get much !

Quiko09

Think Ukraine should have won or at least done better.
1st song of the night was not in his favor.

skepticalme

Israel manipulated a poll on journal.ie on the question 'Should Ireland boycott the eurovision' which begs the question
Could Israel have cheated Eurovision

https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/could-israel-have-cheated-eurovision

Welsh Megaman

Eep.


https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2018/sep/13/eurovision-song-contest-2019-tel-aviv-confirmed

yerwanthere123

2019 thread here. Mods feel free to close this one.