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Etape 2018

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭bazermc


    Looks great. If I can afford it I am definitely in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭bazermc


    The cyclingnews article on the route has Stage 10 down as 159K.

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tour-de-france-2018-route-revealed/

    While the etape website has it down as 169K

    I hope cyclingnews is correct, as that 10k could be the difference between life and death for me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    bazermc wrote: »
    The cyclingnews article on the route has Stage 10 down as 159K.

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tour-de-france-2018-route-revealed/

    While the etape website has it down as 169K

    I hope cyclingnews is correct, as that 10k could be the difference between life and death for me

    Do the routes for the pros and plebs always match exactly?
    I'd imagine the idea is the the pleb route takes in the full stage and may or may not have a few kms tagged on at either end to cater for logistics, numbers etc?


  • Registered Users Posts: 658 ✭✭✭Johnny Jukebox


    terrydel wrote: »
    Do the routes for the pros and plebs always match exactly?
    I'd imagine the idea is the the pleb route takes in the full stage and may or may not have a few kms tagged on at either end to cater for logistics, numbers etc?

    Its the full stage and sometimes with a descent at the end if its a mountain top finish.

    Like this year, where you had to descend into Briancon after finishing on top of the Izoard.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,320 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Whats the chances of this selling out quickly?
    Would like to have something to aim for next year, but cannot commit to it for a few weeks...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭ballyharpat


    retalivity wrote: »
    Whats the chances of this selling out quickly?
    Would like to have something to aim for next year, but cannot commit to it for a few weeks...

    It will not fill out until the end of the year at least. It didn't last year anyway, I'm going again this year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭ballyharpat


    anyone got ant suggestions for accommodation for 5 people in that area?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭jimbobaloobob


    camping.
    ive done it a few years on camping just handiest in my mind.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭ballyharpat


    camping.
    ive done it a few years on camping just handiest in my mind.

    yeah, that sounds fun, but I have a bad back......


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭jimbobaloobob


    yeah, that sounds fun, but I have a bad back......

    have a look for those budget hotels or the camp sites that provide teepee tents.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭ballyharpat


    have a look for those budget hotels or the camp sites that provide teepee tents.

    nice-Could you pm me some links? sounds like a plan in case we get stuck-it's filling fast there-Thanks!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭jimbobaloobob


    theres always a surge of entries once its first announced. so dont panic.

    I wouldnt have any info to pm you as ive typically done it on a whim with camping. I usually take the ferry over and drive across to it.

    If i come across some info ill pm you.
    Have you done anything like it before?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭ballyharpat


    theres always a surge of entries once its first announced. so dont panic.

    I wouldnt have any info to pm you as ive typically done it on a whim with camping. I usually take the ferry over and drive across to it.

    If i come across some info ill pm you.
    Have you done anything like it before?

    Yeah, I did it last year, it was a lot of fun, but a friend organised it last year, I'm the main organiser this year, I have gotten an apartment on Airbnb, and just in case that falls through , I have reserved a house on booking.com
    The apartment is 100m from the main pedestrian area and 200m from the train station, so I think we are in good shape :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 469 ✭✭boege


    Have stayed (and cycled) down in this neck of the alps a few times and know most of this route.

    The climb up to Plateau Glieres is very steep and I recollect the road up was fairly rough last time I was on it. There is 2km of gravel across the top of Plateau Glieres which will make it interesting. Col du Rohm is shockingly steep at the start and then the pull up to Columbiere is 10% for the last few km.

    Is a tough route but a stunning route - Plateau Glieres is a very remote and beautiful location, The views heading up Col du Rohm are pure classic.

    Annecy is a stunning location and a great place to holiday with family. Its called the Venice of the alps as it has an old city centre with canals. Great market also every Sunday. Le Grand Bornand is also another family orientated resort town with plenty of accommodation as its a ski resort in the winter.

    If the route was not so hard I would love to do it :D:D:D:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭bazermc


    Apparently official entries are sold out already.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭jimbobaloobob


    Yea this one sold out quick.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭guile4582


    i would love to do this probably a stupid question but just how much training do you need to put in??

    ...what kind of times do mere mortals do these stages in?

    I did 100km to west cork from the city in about 5 hours during the summer and 90km back the next day, no real bother to me
    and regularly do long rides and hit Dublin mountains in the summer. and cycle 5 days a week 10km to and from work - so 20km per day


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭ballyharpat


    I would be doing the ring of kerry in about 5.5 hours, this would take me around 7+ hours,

    LOts of people do it at different times, but there is a shut off time, I also think this may be one of the harder ones, I did last years in 7.5 hours, but had done the Ras mumhann in April, but was off the bike then for 3 months other than 4 or 5 spins to get ready for this... It's thouroughly enjoyable though!
    guile4582 wrote: »
    i would love to do this probably a stupid question but just how much training do you need to put in??

    ...what kind of times do mere mortals do these stages in?

    I did 100km to west cork from the city in about 5 hours during the summer and 90km back the next day, no real bother to me
    and regularly do long rides and hit Dublin mountains in the summer. and cycle 5 days a week 10km to and from work - so 20km per day


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    After much faffing around, I've got a spot for this.
    I'd got a charity spot in this years Maratona a while back, but only really considered going very recently and when I looked for accom/bike hire etc, it was either impossible or very messy, so found an all-in with sportivebreaks.com for the etape and decided to go with it.
    I'll lose out on the Maratona entry fee (250euro for the charity!) but I've done it twice already so I think trying something different is a good idea.
    Anyone from here going?


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,425 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Another thread here about the etape.
    A few people had said that they were going.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,966 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Tick Tock.

    I feel like I possibly picked the wrong event for my first proper cycling event but I'm getting there. Thankfully it is nearby to me so I was able to scope out the route last weekend which has been a big help (mentally if nothing else). Glieres really is very, very tough and the last 2k of Colombieres may well cause me to break down and cry with 150km in my legs. Suspect I will be pushing the time limit pretty close on this one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    Tick Tock.

    I feel like I possibly picked the wrong event for my first proper cycling event but I'm getting there. Thankfully it is nearby to me so I was able to scope out the route last weekend which has been a big help (mentally if nothing else). Glieres really is very, very tough and the last 2k of Colombieres may well cause me to break down and cry with 150km in my legs. Suspect I will be pushing the time limit pretty close on this one.

    See you there chief :D
    Whats the time limit?
    Id hope to do it in under 8 hours myself.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,966 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    terrydel wrote: »
    See you there chief :D
    Whats the time limit?
    Id hope to do it in under 8 hours myself.

    11hr30, though there are several cut-off points along the way.

    http://netstorage.lequipe.fr/ASO/egp/etapedutour/edt18-itin-horaire-hd.pdf

    Suffice to say I will very much not be doing it in the same time frame as you :D I have done each of the 4 main climbs now though which has at least reassured me that they are doable. Each took me a pretty solid 60-70 mins though and doing them all in one day instead of two won't improve that!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    11hr30, though there are several cut-off points along the way.

    http://netstorage.lequipe.fr/ASO/egp/etapedutour/edt18-itin-horaire-hd.pdf

    Suffice to say I will very much not be doing it in the same time frame as you :D I have done each of the 4 main climbs now though which has at least reassured me that they are doable. Each took me a pretty solid 60-70 mins though and doing them all in one day instead of two won't improve that!

    Hehehe, you never know, you might get into a rhythm!
    I think <8hrs - 8h30 is my timeframe, depends on the weather, how I feel on the day, not getting punctures or mechanicals etc.
    Which of the climbs is the toughest? I'm guessing Gileres (sp?) ?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,966 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    terrydel wrote: »
    Hehehe, you never know, you might get into a rhythm!
    I think <8hrs - 8h30 is my timeframe, depends on the weather, how I feel on the day, not getting punctures or mechanicals etc.
    Which of the climbs is the toughest? I'm guessing Gileres (sp?) ?

    Yeah, glieres is the toughest for sure. You reach a flat bit after all the hairpins and you think the worst is over, but there is then about another km of 11% climbing on a straight long road - it is distinctly unpleasant. The non-tarmac bit at the top is fairly annoying as well - if it rains that is going to be a nightmare.


  • Registered Users Posts: 658 ✭✭✭Johnny Jukebox


    How did we all get on ?

    Personally I found it tough - hardest since 2015 or 2012 maybe....

    But what an event and what a location... mind blowing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,248 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Still recovering...i'll write a report tomorrow..or maybe thursday! :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,535 ✭✭✭at1withmyself


    Might try get a better report up later in the week but fantastic location and I under estimated some of them climbs! My fourth one now and still well worth the trip. Only negative was my bike was not on the return flight so still waiting for information from Aer Lingus as to where it is, hopefully back in Ireland today and back to me tomorrow but am nervous with the additional handling its going to be getting!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭ballyharpat


    Loved it, great location, very well organised, took it pretty handy, went off in the 3rd wave and came in in the top 1000. The spectators/cycling fans are great. I enjoyed it more than last year, but that was for personal reasons more than the event itself. Did it with two friends at diffferent cycling levels and they had a blast as well, I'd definitely recommend it.

    Still over in Annecy until Thursday, did semnoz while I was here-both sides, and Col du Faucile and doing Alpe dhuez and deux alpes tomorrow. Then traveling North for 5/6 days. 

    official time 6:45
    Moving time 6:16

    position 969


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,248 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    L'Etape 2018

    Although I'd set my alarm for 5:30am, I was awake before it went off. I'm pretty sure 15,000 other riders were also up before their alarms went off too due to the anticipation of what lay ahead of us. I was in pen no.14 with a start time of 8:15, so I had plenty of time to get into my pen, as our hotel was less then 2k away. I wanted to be up to see my two club mates off, as they were in different pens with earlier start times. I wasn't early enough as "spokes of glory" had already left the hotel for his 7am start. Of the three of us, spokes is the mountain goat, so I kinda knew I'd probably have to wait until we got back to our hotel after the event to hear how he got on. Sure enough that's what happened, as he was finished at least an hour before me and as his phone had died, we couldn't contact each other at the finish.

    So myself and My club mate Colm left the hotel at 6:30am for the short, 2k spin to the start pens. It was perfect timing, as pen no.14 opened as I arrived, so I got a spot right at the front I wanted to be right on the front line at the start, so I'd have a clear road in front of me, which I feel is a safer place to be once the race starts. So right on time, at 8:15 we were off and we were cheered off by a large crowd and AC/DC music!

    The first 30k were flat with spectacular views of the lake and before I knew it we were on the first climb of the day, which was uncategorised and not listed on the Etape map! At 2k long with 147meters elevation, The Col de Bluffy was nothing compared to the listed climbs but a gentle reminder of what lay ahead.

    At the 45k we took the left turn to start climbing the Col de la Croix Fry. At 12.8k, this is the longest climb of the day with an average gradient of 6.5% which is a really nice climb. Not too difficult but I was surprised to see some people walking already! I guess some of them must be still out there completing the route! The decent off this climb is on good roads and very enjoyable. So enjoyable, I shot past the entrance to the feed station at the 61k mark! I wasn't too worried as the travel company I was with (Sports Tours Int.) had their own feed station at the 70k mark, so I kept going until I reached it. Once there I re stocked my bottles and then set off for the Plateau Des Glieres.

    The Gliere climb was the one I was most concerned about. Although it's "only" 6k long, its average gradient is 11%. Before July 8th, 2018, I didn't really appreciate just how steep 11% really is. This road is steep, it's narrow and it twists and turns its way up through trees. It didn't take me long to realise that my 36x28 gear was not low enough and I found my cadence was way too slow. When this is combined with a narrow road, clogged with other riders (quite a few walking) it made for very slow progress. After 3k, I came to a hairpin bend and made the decision that it was safer to stop and stand to the side and take a drink and eat something, than try and do this while crawling along at 6kph, surrounded by other riders. The road at this hairpin was flat enough that I was able to get going again relatively easily and crawl my way up for another 2 or 3k, when the road levelled out a bit. I stopped here also and again took a drink and eat an energy bar. I then crawled my way to the top and once at the top, rolled through the crowds and continued along the 2k section of gravel. This section was relatively straightforward as the gravel was quite compact and as long as you took it easy and didn't stray into the loose stuff, it wasn't a problem. At the end of the gravel section, there was a water station and again I stopped here to refill my bottles. I didn't hang around and as soon as I had two full bottles, I started down the descent. This decent was fast with a few tight turns, but enjoyable none the less.

    At the 95k mark, I pulled into the food stop in Fulliere. A glass of coca-cola, two caramel waffles, half a banana and a slice of very dry,bland cake later, I left the feed station and started another uncategorised climb, the Col de Fleuries. Not really a climb it's more of a long drag really. It's followed by a descent and a fairly flat section for the next 20k or so. It was at this point I checked my Garmin and when I read that my total elevation gain after 130k was only 2000meters, I realised that once the road starts going up again, it's going to be tough as I knew I had another 2000meters to climb in only 25k!

    Sports Tours Int. had a feed station a few K before the start of Col de Romme. As I pulled in I met my clubmate Colm. He was having stomach problems and was just about to leave the feed station. He waited for me to refill my bottles and we set off together.

    The Col de Romme is a brute of a climb! It's 9k long with an average gradient of 9%, it's a long hard slog from the moment it starts right up to the summit itself. After 3 or 4K, I knew I was in trouble. I was beginning to feel light headed and I was beginning to get a "pins and needles" sensation in my fingers. I had these symptoms before (on the Marmotte) and I knew I needed to eat and drink something to get my blood sugar levels back up. The gradient is so steep I wasn't confident I could do this while moving, so I stopped at a left hand hairpin, got off the bike and sat on a low wall. Colm arrived at the same spot a minute or two later and he too stopped. We both sat there for a few minutes more and once we both felt our heart rates drop a bit and once I no longer had the "pins and needles" feeling , we both stood up and walked a few meters. Colm was ahead of me at this point and I remounted my bike and set off again. After about 1k, I saw Colm sitting beside the road. As I passed I asked him if he was ok and did he need any food/gels etc. He said he was ok and urged me to keep going, which I did. After what seemed like forever, the summit finally came into view. I knew the gradient eased near the top, and it couldn't come quick enough for me. As soon as I crossed the timing mat at the summit, I was tempted to stop again, but I felt I had already stopped too many times by now and stopping was only going to make a very long day even longer, so I kept going. Once over the summit, the road started to descend, but this was short lived, as there was a plateau which had to be crossed before the descent towards the Colombiere climb started. Naturally this plateau was actually a false flat and added a few more meters of climbing!

    The descent off the Col de Romme is short and not too technical, which was just what you need when your tired and longing for this day to end! Once I arrived in the feed station at Le Reposoir, I hung around a bit longer than I should have,as I was hoping Colm would arrive before I left. He didn't arrive and I felt bad continuing but as the three of us had agreed that we would text each other if we couldn't continue or once we crossed the finish line, I figured he was simply recovering and taking it easy on the descent.

    Just like the Co De Romme, the Col De Colombiere starts off steep, continues steep and finishes off steep! At 7.5k in length, with an average gradient of 9% with a total elevation gain of 650meters, this climb hurts and keeps hurting until the very top! Nearing the summit, it reminded me of the Wicklow Gap in that you can see the summit from a long way off. One benefit of my late start time was that I was now climbing this climb in the shade, which is a huge advantage. Mind you it was still a bitch of a climb and just like all the other climbs on this Etape, I found myself crawling along just above walking pace while passing other riders lying in the grass on the side of the road, riders stopped by the side of the road and vomiting into the ditch, riders slumped over their handlebars holding their last bottle of water like their life depended on it and of course, countless other riders walking while using their bikes as a crutch to lean on. With about 100 meters to go to the summit and knowing that once I got to the summit, there was only a 16k descent to the finish, I upped the pace a bit and punched on to the summit. There was a water stop at the summit and I was surprised to see so many riders stopped here! I mean, with only 16k to the finish and it's all downhill, why would anyone stop? I had no intention of stopping now and I rolled over the summit, flicked the chain up onto the big ring and down onto the 11 sprocket and went for it! I can't climb hills to save my life, but I can descent and descend quickly. I'm no Nibali, but I can confirm I passed every cyclist I came across on that descent. Once I made the last left turn to the finish, one guy did try to catch me as we raced for the finish, but while he came close, l finished with only 8000 odd riders ahead of me! :)

    So in numbers, here's my Etape:

    Official time: 9:40:33
    Moving time: 8:35:14
    https://www.strava.com/activities/1689698141

    Number of gels consumed: 5
    Number of High 5 tablets : 4
    Number of energy bars: 6
    Number of banana's : 4
    Number of waffles: 2
    Number of slices of cake: 1
    Litres of water: 4

    High point:
    has to be the 16k descent to the finish line and the beers in the hotel later that night.

    Low point:
    Has to be the Col De Romme...God that climb nearly killed me.


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