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Advice needed: retiling on this plasterwall

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  • 18-10-2017 10:39am
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    kellyin
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭


    Hi
    need some advice here if this plasterboard wall condition is good enough for retiling?

    This is the shower room and we're removing tiles ourselves.

    Any kind advice is appreciated.
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    BrokenArrows
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    kellyin wrote: »
    Hi
    need some advice here if this plasterboard wall condition is good enough for retiling?

    This is the shower room and we're removing tiles ourselves.

    Any kind advice is appreciated.

    A. Tile over the existing adhesive. You will likely use a load of adhesive and it will be difficult to get a smooth finish to your tiles.

    B. Attempt to scrape off the adhesive from the plasterboard. If it comes off without completely destroying the plasterboard then everything is ok and you can retile it as normal.

    C. As will likely happen the adhesive removal will totally wreck the plasterboard. You will need to rip down the plasterboard and put up new plasterboard.

    D. Skip all of the above and just put up new plasterboard. You should just be able to put the new plasterboard over the old plasterboard. Just get longer screws and make sure its screwed into the studs.


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    kellyin
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭kellyin


    Just got a plumber over and he suggested to put up new plasterboard over old board because the old wall is quite weak and lose about 20mm. We shall see how it goes!


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    DublinDilbert
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    kellyin wrote: »
    Just got a plumber over and he suggested to put up new plasterboard over old board because the old wall is quite weak and lose about 20mm. We shall see how it goes!

    You'll have a problem at your door frames if you re-board. Take down the original board and put up 12mm board (the original may have just been 9mm). The 12mm board should be fine and take up the same space as the 9mm board was probably skimmed.


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    TopTec
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    Plus 1 above.

    Tke down the old and put up new. Pretty easy job whether you screw or use plasterbard adhesive. Perfect surface for re-tiling then and no issues over having to replace light switches, skirting, door frames or architraves.

    Boarding over just causes problems. Weakness doesn't come into it.

    TT


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    kellyin
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭kellyin


    Really thanks all for the advice. The condition of the plasterwall after removing tiles, it is much faster to fit new wall than to fix old wall.
    Looks like u guys are experienced, what ye think about the job scope vs the quotation:
    plumber: €900 (600labour+300materials)
    1. move new valve higher for shower.
    2. install 1 new valve for water spray as bidet.
    3. Lower the old waste pipe as it was installed originally too high, 19cm from floor. (this height not suitable for shower tray.)
    4. Fit shower tray.

    builder: €1800 (labour only)
    1. remove old wall
    2. remove toilet
    3. remove sink
    4. remove floor tiles
    5. install new plasterboard
    6. Tile all walls
    7. Refit sink & toilet
    8. build support frame for shower tray
    9. Fit shower enclosure
    10. clean up


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    TopTec
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    Really difficult to comment on quotes as location and any incidental problems cannot be envisaged by people here.

    Over here in the West, 100e a day is the going labour rate. No idea about the cities.

    Bottom line is if your are happy with the quote and happy with the quality of the builder then go for it, but

    Don't pay upfront.... stged payments are fine but always hold back some for the last payment as this will be your only card should the job not be up to standard.

    Have fun

    TT


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    jeepcj
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭jeepcj


    I wouldn't want to be a plumber on the west coast if all they get is a 100 euro a day
    TopTec wrote: »
    Really difficult to comment on quotes as location and any incidental problems cannot be envisaged by people here.

    Over here in the West, 100e a day is the going labour rate. No idea about the cities.

    Bottom line is if your are happy with the quote and happy with the quality of the builder then go for it, but

    Don't pay upfront.... stged payments are fine but always hold back some for the last payment as this will be your only card should the job not be up to standard.



    Have fun

    TT


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    kellyin
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭kellyin


    I'm in Dublin city and got 3-4 plumbers call out to inspect the bathroom and minimum was 600€, excludes materials and VAT, job scope ONLY plumbing (i.e adding new valves for shower, lower waste pipe, install waste to tray, and 1 new valve for water spray, reconnecting pipes to toilet & sink). I say plumber daily rate is 300€ in Dublin.

    2 guys quoted 3-5K - plumbing + builder (job spec listed above).


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    TopTec
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    jeepcj wrote: »
    I wouldn't want to be a plumber on the west coast if all they get is a 100 euro a day

    :P ah, but the quality of life is soooo much better!

    TT


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