Should I wait for Black Friday or is it a waste?

Mr.H

So I want a Samsung S8+

The issue is I dont want to pay the 900 quid (approx) for it. So a bill pay is probably my best bet.

I also dont feel great about paying 60 or 80 quid a month depending on contract type and network.

I am with three pre pay but Vodafone 80 quid a month looks like the best package to me. Also it is the cheapest up front payment. Its a lot of cash but it has everything.

My question is, Black Friday. Would I be better to wait for it and see if there are any deals in terms of pricing for the bill or phone? Or is the stuff given at Black Friday just window dressing? Are they merely going to just offer a free phone cover or something?

I am aware that Three are doing €30 a month for the first 6 months plus you get €50 off the phone price and a free VR set (which is given by Samsung rather than three). So thats a great deal. But are there better future deals.

I know we cant say for certain unless someone has inside knowledge, but going by the last couple of years, do the latest phones have BIG offers for black friday?

alksander

Personally I do not think any of the billpay options are worth it, rather they are a ripoff in this country.

Most of them end up costing ~50% more than buying the phone off the shelf and having a proper SIM-only subscription like this one: http://www.three.ie/eshop/sim-only-plans/bill-pay-sim-only/

For 30 a month it is practically unlimited (unlimited data in Ireland, unlimited calls within the network, 7GB in the EU, 10000 minutes of calls within Ireland+EU).

The example offer from Three means the S8+ is 299-50 + 6x30 + 18x60 -> 1509 euros over a 2 year period. Going prepay means 24*30 + ~700 for the phone if you go with any of those deals posted here (Amazon).

Upside: not locked in to Three (can switch anytime a better offer comes up) and not locked in to Three's warranty handling.

Downside: couldn't avail of the get-out-of-contract card would there be an unlikely contract change as earlier this year

Also on topic: some of the black friday deals are worth it, but its few and far in between. Haven't seen any good deals for phones though before.

Alanstrainor

If you select Amazon as the seller then the cost is 682:

https://www.amazon.de/Samsung-Smartphone-Touch-Display-interner-Speicher-midnight-black/dp/B06XJ6BTYT/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1508502176&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+s8%2B

Or 635 here, from one of the "fulfilled by amazon" sellers:

https://www.amazon.it/gp/offer-listing/B06XWWDLQP/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

Be sure to purchase from either Amazon themselves, or a "fulfilled by amazon" seller, I wouldn't trust the rest.

You'll have to do your own sums, but I bet buying this outright would be way cheaper than going on one of the high price contract plans. You can get 30 day rolling contracts with lots of add-ons for reasonable money. It all depends on what your usage is like however.

Kuva

Get a Moto G 5. Does everything the S8 does.

There!!!

Saved you hundreds, no need to thank me.

Alanstrainor

Kuva wrote: »

Get a Moto G 5. Does everything the S8 does.

There!!!

Saved you hundreds, no need to thank me.

It doesn't though.

Doodah7

Thanks OP. Bought 10.

JeffKenna

I wouldn't get a Samsung if it were free!!

duffman13

JeffKenna wrote: »

I wouldn't go if it were free

JeffKenna wrote: »

Wouldn't go if you paid me

Noticing a bit of a pattern with your posts on BA.

JeffKenna wrote: »

I wouldn't get a Samsung if it were free!!

You wouldn't take a phone valued at 700 quid for free. I somehow doubt that

errlloyd

Mr.H wrote: »

So I want a Samsung S8+

The issue is I dont want to pay the 900 quid (approx) for it. So a bill pay is probably my best bet.

http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/sim-free-mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s8/sim-free-deals?source=webgains&utm_source=HotUKDeals&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=20363


590 unlocked here OP - if you pay with revolut or something similar. Black Friday will not have good deals on billpay phones.

Personally if I was going to buy a top end phone unlocked right now, it'd be a pixel.

Alanstrainor

errlloyd wrote: »

http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/sim-free-mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s8/sim-free-deals?source=webgains&utm_source=HotUKDeals&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=20363


590 unlocked here OP - if you pay with revolut or something similar. Black Friday will not have good deals on billpay phones.

Personally if I was going to buy a top end phone unlocked right now, it'd be a pixel.

That's an S8, not S8+. The S8 is cheaper than that on Amazon, 550eur more like.

errlloyd

errlloyd wrote: »

http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/sim-free-mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s8/sim-free-deals?source=webgains&utm_source=HotUKDeals&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=20363


590 unlocked here OP - if you pay with revolut or something similar. Black Friday will not have good deals on billpay phones.

Personally if I was going to buy a top end phone unlocked right now, it'd be a pixel.

That's the standard S8.

errlloyd

Alanstrainor wrote: »

That's an S8, not S8+. The S8 is cheaper than that on Amazon, 550eur more like.

Basil3 wrote: »

That's the standard S8.

You guys are absolutely correct. Comes with the VR though.

I guess in my mind it is crazy that Samsung have an S8, S8+ and Note 8 so I always forget the S8+!

ForestFire

Vodafone only comparison for S8

Vodafone(PAYG Extra) Samsung S8 + Free Vr = €799 + 30X24 = €1519 (4G, 8GB, Unlimited Call/txt, 100mins/txts international)


Vodafone (Red connect) Samsung S8 + Free VR on = €149 + 60X24 = €1589 (4G, 15GB, Unlimited Call txt, 100mins/txts international+spotify)

Buy online as linked above may save you ~200 over the two years but will your plan include the same and you will have a bigger initial outlay.

I would not rule out bill pay if you want to spread the cost and or need more data or spotify?
Maybe there are better PAYG plans with other operators?

mutley18

Stupid question, if I buy the S8 from Amazon Denmark can I insure it? I currently have insurance through Gadget Cover.

pilly

ForestFire wrote: »

Vodafone only comparison for S8

Vodafone(PAYG Extra) Samsung S8 + Free Vr = €799 + 30X24 = €1519 (4G, 8GB, Unlimited Call/txt, 100mins/txts international)


Vodafone (Red connect) Samsung S8 + Free VR on = €149 + 60X24 = €1589 (4G, 15GB, Unlimited Call txt, 100mins/txts international+spotify)

Buy online as linked above may save you ~200 over the two years but will your plan include the same and you will have a bigger initial outlay.

I would not rule out bill pay if you want to spread the cost and or need more data or spotify?
Maybe there are better PAYG plans with other operators?

3 Network €20 per month, unlimited internet, unlimited texts, not sure about calls but I never make a call from my mobile so doesn't effect me.

Best deal I've ever had, never had to top up outside the €20. Use internet for everything.

Alanstrainor

mutley18 wrote: »

Stupid question, if I buy the S8 from Amazon Denmark can I insure it? I currently have insurance through Gadget Cover.

de is Germany

But yes. It is just a sim-free Samsung. Generally they are sold as international versions.

donegal.

what would the total annual cost be like if you borrowed the money (bank or credit union ect) and paid it back monthly? versus billpay .


edit:
credit union + amazon+ three sim only = €81.25 per month for one year , €20pm after that.


or if you wanted to spread it out over two years its €52.30pm

ablelocks

open an excel file and do the comparison table and the maths - i did this for an iphone 7 i bought last december and getting it on voda bill pay turned out to be cheapest option over the 2 years...only by about 80 euro but still..(although i don't like being locked in for 2 years, i didn't have the upfront cash to fork out on the phone)

mutley18

Alanstrainor wrote: »

de is Germany

But yes. It is just a sim-free Samsung. Generally they are sold as international versions.

Ah yes of course it is Germany, dont judge me it has been a long week

Davy

Moved to requests

pilly

pilly wrote: »

3 Network €20 per month, unlimited internet, unlimited texts, not sure about calls but I never make a call from my mobile so doesn't effect me.

Best deal I've ever had, never had to top up outside the €20. Use internet for everything.

3 is actually a good deal on PAYG. Calls are a rip-off at 35c/min or something, but I use my credit to pay for Viber VoIP credit, working out at about 2c/min to any landline in the world, and about 10c/min to any mobile. On top of that, I get free €10/month from switching to 3, meaning I have €30/month so spent on all sorts of play store stuff. Currently also paying for office 365 premium out of my credit.

pilly

Basil3 wrote:

3 is actually a good deal on PAYG. Calls are a rip-off at 35c/min or something, but I use my credit to pay for Viber VoIP credit, working out at about 2c/min to any landline in the world, and about 10c/min to any mobile. On top of that, I get free €10/month from switching to 3, meaning I have €30/month so spent on all sorts of play store stuff. Currently also paying for office 365 premium out of my credit.

Is that 10c to international mobiles as Well?

pilly

pilly wrote: »

Is that 10c to international mobiles as Well?

It varies by country. NZ/Aus mobiles (where I call) is about 10c/min, UK 6c/min, USA and India 2c/min. It makes a difference even calling Irish mobiles, you get to make them for a quarter of the price 3 charge, and it still shows as your number calling from the other end.

Gadgetman496

Bought a phone of these and couldn't recommend them enough.

They have the S8+ new & open to all networks so it is totally free of the contract rip off crap.

http://www.adverts.ie/samsung/brand-new-samsung-galaxy-s8-unlocked-shop-collection/14045749