The whole coffee fixation...

Jawgap

exaisle wrote: »

I just see them as a way for coffee sellers to charge exhorbitant prices...in the same way as printer manufacturers sell relatively cheap machines and then sell a very small amount of printer ink at very high prices..
They're also very wasteful...

Compare what a bag of coffee beans costs in comparison to the same amount of actual coffee from Nespresso...

I don't disagree with you, and as way of drinking coffee regularly they're a bit of a waste, but for something occasional and quick when you don't fancy instant or grinding, I find them fine.

nice_guy80

go to vancouver

never seen so many people walking around with giant coffee cups

harr

rob316 wrote: »

McDonalds is my favourite coffee too. Starbucks is horrible. I don't like the single origin 3fe places that charge 3e for a half cup of coffee.

McDonald’s my favourite out of all the chains, garage nearest to me sells Bewleys coffee which I enjoy and only €2 for a full cup..what’s the average price for a coffee anyway? I know near me its anywhere between 2 and 3 quid .
Had one in another local garage last week and they were selling a large for 2.80 while the cup was bigger it was definitely less than 3/4 full so probably same volume as a regular coffee..

Are large coffees two shots of expresso or just more water?

_Dara_

Gwynplaine wrote: »

It smells nice, but I don't like the taste. Tea for me.

All this for me too!

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

I never get any "hit" off coffee. Ever. I could drink coffee before bed and fall fast asleep.

Me too, caffeine doesn't prevent me from sleeping.

seachto7

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Another lad had a hot plate and used a weird steel tea pot type thing to make his coffee...

Coffee ****

Those "weird steel tea pot type thing" are used at home by most of Spain, Italy etc.
Nothing weird about them. Do you find Italian food weird as well?
I have one of those pots at home and they make a great cup of coffee.
I just don't understand why anyone would pay €3 for a cup of coffee in Dublin when they could just make their own at work or at home. At least €60 per month, €700+ a year on takeaway coffee if you had one every working day. Do the math, as the yank would say!
I'm well used to my coffee pot and wouldn't have much interest in little pods or instant coffee.
I also like green tea.

server down

Sonics2k wrote: »

And some people like tea.

Getting annoyed about people who like coffee is just as daft as getting angry about people who drink tea. It doesn't make any sense.

I drink coffee most week days. From work or a chain, but I get what the OP is saying.

It’s the hipster thing. The people who grew up with Nescafé knowing good blends from bad, every hipster having knowledge of some independent coffee shop that makes the perfect coffee and all else is slop.

longshanks

So that's gin, coffee, straight leg/ slim fitting jeans, cyclists, craft beer, and gourmet burgers that are solely the preserve hipster twats?
No doubt I've forgotten something, but a socially inept bootcut jeans wearing keyboard ninja will be along to add to the list.

uck51js9zml2yt

I just finished a cup of freshly ground single origin coffee. ...and I didn't have to have my name written on my cup.

storker

trashcan wrote: »

I drink coffee, but I wouldn't be a coffee snob at all. Instant does me fine. Can't abide tea though. Disgusting stuff. Even hate the smell.

Apart from the extremely rare cup accepted from politeness, I haven't drunk tea since I was about 12. I had a cup from a machine on a cross-channel ferry. It was too weak, too sweet and too milky and I got seasick later, and I've associated the two ever since.

Instant coffee does me fine. Freeze dried. I'm very picky about it. I choose the one that's on special offer. I don't like the Lidl stuff though. Apart from that, Carte Noire, Kenco, Gold Blend, they're all good.

It's not that I don't like a nice cup of real coffee, but I can't stand drinking it from paper cups, so I don't go to Starbucks or Cafe Sol, etc. The one thing that still amazes me about cafes and restaurants is how many serve crap coffee, even those that serve good food. I don't understand why it's so difficult to get right, we're not exactly talking about the secret of alchemy. I tend to remember places where I've had bad coffee and not go back, no matter how good everything else was.

server down

longshanks wrote: »

So that's gin, coffee, straight leg/ slim fitting jeans, cyclists, craft beer, and gourmet burgers that are solely the preserve hipster twats?
No doubt I've forgotten something, but a socially inept bootcut jeans wearing keyboard ninja will be along to add to the list

This man is hurting.

whoopsadoodles

server down wrote: »

This man is hurting.

His skinny jeans are too tight.

scamalert

ive bought coffee only handful times in my life and its from stations, the whole starbucks 5e or whatever the f it costs i dont get how people are so plain to part with money when you can get instant jar that will last you a month from lidl/aldi and its coffee at the end of the day, not some 20yr whiskey :cool:

And seems theres signs everywhere now costa,starbucks etc, know from working in retail for every cup sold theres about 1e profit if you pay anywhere between 1.5e granted coffee machine costs between 5-10k but it pays of in busy place in less than a year.

Barry Badrinath

seachto7 wrote: »

Those "weird steel tea pot type thing" are used at home by most of Spain, Italy etc.
Nothing weird about them. Do you find Italian food weird as well?
I have one of those pots at home and they make a great cup of coffee.
I just don't understand why anyone would pay €3 for a cup of coffee in Dublin when they could just make their own at work or at home. At least €60 per month, €700+ a year on takeaway coffee if you had one every working day. Do the math, as the yank would say!
I'm well used to my coffee pot and wouldn't have much interest in little pods or instant coffee.
I also like green tea.

Fcuk Spain, Fcuk Italy, I dont give a fcuk what they do there and yes, Italian food is weird

Whatever you do at home is your own business. Bringing in a hot plate, your own steel, one cup coffee thing and grinding your own beans in work, is an attention seeking, fcuktard move. The same person thinks Starbucks are pretentious fcukwits.

Im not cursing at you seachto7, im just thinking about yer mans smug face as he grinds his fcuking beans from fcuking Guatamala or God knows where.

Oh my, he's a prick.

Mr.H

RoboKlopp wrote:

Are large coffees two shots of expresso or just more water?

Depends on the brand.

Costa sell a large and it's a 20 ounce with 4 shots. Their small (12 ounce) is 2 shots and medium (16 ounce) is 3

Insomnias (although it could be bb's I'm thinking of) large is 16 ounce and 2 shots. Medium (12 ounce) is 1 shot.

So sizes are not always the same and either as shots. Always ask.

whoopsadoodles

scamalert wrote: »

ive bought coffee only handful times in my life and its from stations, the whole starbucks 5e or whatever the f it costs i dont get how people are so plain to part with money when you can get instant jar that will last you a month from lidl/aldi and its coffee at the end of the day, not some 20yr whiskey :cool:

Whiskey hipster.

But seriously, that's a stupid argument.

Sure you can buy whiskey in Aldi, why would you spent money on a 20year old one that'll help take down the wallpaper and all?

I'm not reallt a coffee drinker. I have maybe one a week but it's generally a cappucinno from a coffee place or in work. I drink buckets of tea. I have a Nespresso machine because I went through a phase of drinking coffee when I was doing long distance running but it sits unused now for some time. I'm happy enough to pay a couple of quid once a week for a coffee, no more than someone else would spend €5 for a Jameson that could have been drank at home for far less.

branie2

I prefer hot chocolate

I think coffee is grand. That's it really. I have an Americano with small drop of hot milk (which I've been told is a white Americano) when I start work everyday. Never usually have more than one a day. Can do without one. I don't have them on my days off. It's just a habit at work really.

Not a fan of coffee that is made mostly with milk like Lattes etc.. Although sometimes I'll have one after a meal instead of dessert but usually regret it.

My boyfriend is one of these people that "can't function without" coffee. He has to have one first thing in the morning before he leaves the house and has around 6 cups a day. He's actually outside having a coffee and a fag as I type this. The coffee is from a moka pot, hipster!

I love tea but can't drink too much of it because it's diuretic properties..

bodice ripper

I was raised by a pack or rogue Americans. I didn't have a cup tea until I was in my 20s. And it tastes like stagnant water.

Coffee is where it's at.

Jawgap

valoren wrote: »

Think the McDonald's ad successfully takes the piss out of the culture of coffee.

I find the McD's coffee pretty good.....probably the best, imo, of all the chains when it comes to a decent, basic cup of joe.

server down

bodice ripper wrote: »

I was raised by a pack or rogue Americans. I didn't have a cup tea until I was in my 20s. And it tastes like stagnant water.

Coffee is where it's at.

America basically smells like coffee.

Jawgap

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Theres a few lads in work that are total coffee pricks.

We have a communal kettle, Burco boiler and a filter coffee machine in the break room and thats grand.

One lad grinds his own coffee beans and uses a French Press. Another guy brought in one of those machines that takes coffee capsules. Another lad had a hot plate and used a weird steel tea pot type thing to make his coffee...

...but if I have a cup of green tea/earl grey or lemon tea...Im the asshole in the office. They are right of course.

I also knew a lad that ate spoonfulls of coffee granuals throughout the day.

Coffee ****

Thought you'd be more of a "standard NATO" guy when it comes to tea

MadDog76

branie2 wrote: »

I don't drink it

branie2 wrote: »

Jack Reacher is a lover of coffee

branie2 wrote: »

I prefer hot chocolate

Three posts is unnecessary, you could have easily fit all that into just one post ........

Barry Badrinath

Jawgap wrote: »

Thought you'd be more of a "standard NATO" guy when it comes to tea

Ha! Used to be.....I cut down on the aul milk and sugar now though. Chest rig was getting a bit tight :pac:

Were you part of the 'spoonful of honey with the chaps' gang?

MadYaker

Conor74 wrote: »

...I'm sceptical about the whole coffee obsession. I think people vastly overstate how important coffee is to them and suspect if blindfolded many really couldn't tell a Frank and Honest from a Lidl instant. They simply want to go around clutching a coffee cup and extolling the virtues of Badger and Dodo because it's in, like watching rugby and going to the gym, in a way that for example tea is not. We like tea, but it's too boring for people, it doesn't come with a perceived image angle.

Hearing that someone can't function without their flat white...give me a break.

I suppose you think all white wine tastes the same too? Drink enough coffee and the differences between different types of beans and cheap vs expensive are obvious. The people who think drinking nice coffee somehow makes you sofisticated are idiots.

Jawgap

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Ha! Used to be.....I cut down on the aul milk and sugar now though. Chest rig was getting a bit tight :pac:

Always like the story of how the RIR battlegroup was attached to the US Marines for the advance on Basra and how the American logisticians assumed that a squaddies' appetite for tea was the same as a marine's for coffee and made their calculations accordingly......

.......they ran out of tea by day #5

MadDog76

harr wrote: »

McDonald’s my favourite out of all the chains, garage nearest to me sells Bewleys coffee which I enjoy and only €2 for a full cup..what’s the average price for a coffee anyway? I know near me its anywhere between 2 and 3 quid .
Had one in another local garage last week and they were selling a large for 2.80 while the cup was bigger it was definitely less than 3/4 full so probably same volume as a regular coffee..

There's a few places like that (Topaz, Spar etc.) ........... I usually just put two medium coffees into a large cup.

exaisle

longshanks wrote: »

So that's gin, coffee, straight leg/ slim fitting jeans, cyclists, craft beer, and gourmet burgers that are solely the preserve hipster twats?

This thread really isn't about coffee at all though...it's really a rant against hipster twats who think they know their arabica from their robusta, but actually don't.

I'm ok with that. ;-)

Amirani

Weird thread this.

Some people like coffee and have a preference for certain fresh ground coffee over a jar of instant. Get criticised by posters who claim it's not like 20 year old whiskey etc. Assume Easy Singles is just as good as artisan cheese, cartons of wine just as good as good French wine etc?

And yeah, caffeine is a stimulant so it can make a difference to alertness, because of yano, science...

Some people are tools about the whole coffee obsession thing, but plenty in this thread equally as bad.

MadYaker

Also, the reason coffee is important to some people is because caffeine is addictive as fcuk

server down

MadYaker wrote: »

I suppose you think all white wine tastes the same too? Drink enough coffee and the differences between different types of beans and cheap vs expensive are obvious. The people who think drinking nice coffee somehow makes you sofisticated are idiots.

We don’t. We think you think you are sophisticated.

my3cents

Thanks OP, just enjoyed my first coffee in ages, would never have thought about it until I started reading this tread.

iguana

Jawgap wrote: »

They both do. Caffeine, which is also in tea but at a lower level, is a diuretic.

That's a bit of a myth. Yes caffeine is a diuretic but it's served in a cup of water so the increase in urine output is less than the consumption of liquid from the drink itself.

FixdePitchmark

valoren wrote: »

Think the McDonald's ad successfully takes the piss out of the culture of coffee.

But their coffee is piss.

It is like a slow building drug addiction - Coffee.

Got into it about 10 years ago - and generally enjoyed the improvement of the product here in the last 10 years. Was muck and still is when travelling around the country. Is there a petrol station at all with decent stuff ? Tends to be a Costa and that is about the best of them.

Mcdonalds is crap - but at least cheap.
Starbucks is just a brand.
That place Re is probably the worst stuff going.

I'm not that into it - but have been impressed with the different experiences of going into 3fe - Ebb and Flow (Clontarf) and there is a real culture building.

The funny thing is there are older companies in this area in Ireland - Bewleys and Butlers could knock them all out of the park - and nice to see an Irish company doing well - Butlers is a class act.

Last 6 months I was on a serious budget - and have just made it myself in a press and as good if not better than 90% of the stuff you get on the road.

Being on this budget - did make me think how much do people spend on coffee - we are a bizarre nation in that we maximize the profit on any fad - a true coffee culture is Spain or Italy - you pay 1.50 - drink and go. Here it is almost an image thing with the terribly environmentally unfriendly cup - a biscuit for about 3.95 and you can walk out of a costa after spending something like 7 euro + .

Genuinely something strange with the Irish and money. The crash was interesting - but we are ready to be daft again - like near 4 euro for a coffee to go is crazy.

Billy86

listermint wrote: »

The whole sets me up for the day ****e means your addicted.

Your day was setup before coffee. Since you started drinking it regularly you can't function..... Tells you something

Pretty much... and I'm one of those people. Also an on again, off again smoker so it is what it is, and what it is is an addiction, just like the homeless person shooting up heroin. The substance is less damaging but it's no less of an addiction. The Alan Carr Easy Way to Quit Smoking book spells this out extremely well, actually.

I do get a bit of a kick off non smokers who also "need" their morning coffee's reaction while sneering at smokers and the likes to being told this though. :pac:

Billy86

Esse85 wrote: »

Costa and Starbucks coffee is rotten and similar to rotten fast food outlets like McDonalds or Burger King where its all about branding/marketing and less emphasis on the actual product itself, whereas give me a coffee from an independent coffee store or a takeaway from an independent Italian chipper any day.

Funny enough, I've heard a number of people praise McDonalds coffee as surprisingly nice! I'd not notice though, I'm happy for a jar of instant stuff for €3-5 to see me through a few weeks (though as much as I like Aldi, their 'Alcafe' stuff is one of the only ones I'd consider pretty rank).

server down

If coffee drinkers knew their coffee then most restaurants would have coffee lists, with different beans and countries or origin like wine (of course there is more going on with wine - a coffee bean is more in the position of a grape pre fermentation and there are far more varieties of grape too).

And there would be massive price differences.

Not that wines snobs aren’t bores but they do know more about wine than coffee snobs know about coffee. What coffee snobs know is that Starbucks is ****e (if only they could hire decent buyers), Costa is better and their local independent shop is to die for.

DoozerT6

Anybody else find 3fe coffee just too bitter?

*ducks*.

Da Regulator

It's also vastly overpriced with a 150% markup if not more

Jawgap

DoozerT6 wrote: »

Anybody else find 3fe coffee just too bitter?

*ducks*.

The coffee? No

The prices leave a lingering after taste!!

Currently enjoying a mug of some Vietnamese beans I brought back from a recent trip......quite a strong roast!

JupiterKid

I only drink decaf coffee as caffeine makes me jittery, restless and anxious but I do drink normal tea most days.

I might have 3 or 4 cups of decaf coffee a week and that's it. I love the smell of coffee beans but I do laugh at how pretentious some people are here about coffee. And coffee here in Ireland, like most everything else, is grossly overpriced - our little Rip Off republic.

Give me a decent hot chocolate any day!

Guy Sajer

Recently opened a bag of Cafe Aroma from Oxapampa, Peru. A very satisfying percolation.

FixdePitchmark

server down wrote: »

If coffee drinkers knew their coffee then most restaurants would have coffee lists, with different beans and countries or origin like wine (of course there is more going on with wine - a coffee bean is more in the position of a grape pre fermentation and there are far more varieties of grape too).

And there would be massive price differences.

Not that wines snobs aren’t bores but they do know more about wine than coffee snobs know about coffee. What coffee snobs know is that Starbucks is ****e (if only they could hire decent buyers), Costa is better and their local independent shop is to die for.

Is that not a bit of a generalization - I like my wine and most mates in 40s drink red. People go to a restaurant and pretend to know a bit about wine with the tasting etc. But - 90% of them haven't a clue - they think they are great if they know a simply difference between Malbec and temperino. But the more you get to know wine - the more you know you dont know. Like Italy alone in single areas has vastly different wines - Barolo - Barbbaresco -

The variety of wine is extraordinary - and you will find every climate in the world provides a unique coffee -

I would tend to agree - talking about Costa versus Starbucks is embarrassing if you claim to be a coffee head.

Another joke is them waist full capsules - Nespresso stuff - is that actually good coffee ?

When you sit down and think about it - the whole coffee thing , environmentally is very waist full. The areas feeding the trade must be in bits.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/29/sustainable-coffee_n_5175192.html

irishguitarlad

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

But their coffee is piss.

It is like a slow building drug addiction - Coffee.

Got into it about 10 years ago - and generally enjoyed the improvement of the product here in the last 10 years. Was muck and still is when travelling around the country. Is there a petrol station at all with decent stuff ? Tends to be a Costa and that is about the best of them.

Mcdonalds is crap - but at least cheap.
Starbucks is just a brand.
That place Re is probably the worst stuff going.

I'm not that into it - but have been impressed with the different experiences of going into 3fe - Ebb and Flow (Clontarf) and there is a real culture building.

The funny thing is there are older companies in this area in Ireland - Bewleys and Butlers could knock them all out of the park - and nice to see an Irish company doing well - Butlers is a class act.

Last 6 months I was on a serious budget - and have just made it myself in a press and as good if not better than 90% of the stuff you get on the road.

Being on this budget - did make me think how much do people spend on coffee - we are a bizarre nation in that we maximize the profit on any fad - a true coffee culture is Spain or Italy - you pay 1.50 - drink and go. Here it is almost an image thing with the terribly environmentally unfriendly cup - a biscuit for about 3.95 and you can walk out of a costa after spending something like 7 euro + .

Genuinely something strange with the Irish and money. The crash was interesting - but we are ready to be daft again - like near 4 euro for a coffee to go is crazy.

I've seen places in Spain that do it for a euro. But the average is 1.20 .It's unreal here though, it gives you some kick. You never see a Spanish person in starbucks only tourists and foreigners. However the best coffee I had was in Italy.

Jawgap

irishguitarlad wrote: »

I've seen places in Spain that do it for a euro. But the average is 1.20 .It's unreal here though, it gives you some kick. You never see a Spanish person in starbucks only tourists and foreigners. However the best coffee I had was in Italy.

+1 on Italy, and especially Northern Italy, is where I've had the nicest coffee, and for peanuts compared to the prices here!

Donald Trump

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I'm as far from a beardy hipster as it gets (jury is well out on the 'twat' part :pac:), but I prefer a dirty Columbian because it tastes like gack! Really it's just the taste I prefer, sort of like a bitter hit that I just never found with tea. I grew up of course drinking tea, but about 16 I had a first taste of coffee and just preferred it over tea.

I see my own young lad now and he prefers 'exotic' teas like green tea, fruit tea, camomile tea (it tastes like straw ffs!), and now when we're out he'll buy himself an iced tea, or tea with lemon. That was a fancy drink when I was his age!

We'd all love a dirty Colombian.

( I'd say Sophia Vergara is filthy in the sack )

FixdePitchmark

irishguitarlad wrote: »

I've seen places in Spain that do it for a euro. But the average is 1.20 .It's unreal here though, it gives you some kick. You never see a Spanish person in starbucks only tourists and foreigners. However the best coffee I had was in Italy.

I know part of it is - the different country - the weather - the sexy people - the language.

Like even in italy - you do see mega brands in the shops - Lavazza, Illy.

They probably are on a forum in Italy now saying, them fools drinking Lavazza , they don't know that the Sicilian bean from an ass's ass is the best coffee in the world - what next Starbucks - they youth of today.

demanufactured

mojesius wrote: »

You can't dunk a biscuit in a coffee.
Tae all the way

Wrong

Testament1

server down wrote: »

If coffee drinkers knew their coffee then most restaurants would have coffee lists, with different beans and countries or origin like wine

There's a place in Ennis, Suas, that does this. The guy there seems to really know his shít when it comes to coffee too.

Personally I'm happy with a jar of Kenco Costa Rican instant. 3 spoons of that and 2 or 3 sugars and I'm in flavour country.

MadDog76

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

I know part of it is - the different country - the weather - the sexy people - the language.

Like even in italy - you do see mega brands in the shops - Lavazza, Illy.

They probably are on a forum in Italy now saying, them fools drinking Lavazza , they don't know that the Sicilian bean from an ass's ass is the best coffee in the world - what next Starbucks - they youth of today.

Funny you say that, I was just browsing Tavole.it and found this post by caffèsegaiolo89 ............ "loro stupidi che bevono Lavazza, non sanno che il fagiolo siciliano di un culo di culo è il miglior caffè al mondo - che prossima Starbucks - sono giovanili di oggi."