Ronald Koeman sacked by Everton

Agent Coulson

Tuchel is out of a job and might suit.

lawred2

Berserker wrote: »

Surprised nobody has mentioned Louis Van Gal. Odds are pretty short for him.

another dour cold fish

no thanks

Skylinehead

POKERKING wrote: »

He is close to been sacked at stoke!
Hasnt improved them imo at all.

He objectively has. Took Pulis' team and got them 3 consecutive top half finishes (something that Pulls couldn't do), and converted them from hoofball to a team that can actually play football. I do think he's taken them as far as he can, but to say he hasn't improved them is wrong.

DJIMI TRARORE

Tailor made for big Sam,deep in relegation,hapy to stay up this season and after years of the "Dogs of War" and Moyes the supporters woulnt be too worried about the quality of football

lawred2

DJIMI TRARORE wrote: »

Tailor made for big Sam,deep in relegation,hapy to stay up this season and after years of the "Dogs of War" and Moyes the supporters woulnt be too worried about the quality of football

you're joking right?

The 'dogs of war' nonsense was over 20 years ago. And many of Moyes' sides played very decent football - and Everton under Martinez for a few seasons played excellent flowing football.

You've either not watched much Everton in the last 15 or so years or you're a kopite. Probably both.

Skylinehead

There's only one man for the job

andrew1977

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Ancelloti or Moyes for the job,that is the question.

Moyes would relegate them, a massive mistake to appoint him in my opinion.

DJIMI TRARORE

lawred2 wrote: »

you're joking right?

The 'dogs of war' nonsense was over 20 years ago. And many of Moyes' sides played very decent football - and Everton under Martinez for a few seasons played excellent flowing football.

You've either not watched much Everton in the last 15 or so years or you're a kopite. Probably both.

stirrin it:):):):):),Moyes at times and Matinez both tried to play a bit

Mocha Joe

Playing mirallas instead of loads of slow no.10s is something he didnt really try. And he tried a lot of things.

Hasnt been injured and signed new contract in the summer.

rob316

As made as the fees were in the summer £45m on Gylfi was absolutely baffling.

They sold their only real goalscorer and didn't replace him or even close to replace him.

average_runner

Here is my thoughts.

One of these 4 will get it: Unsworth/Hughes/Howe/Ancelotti.

I think it be one of the first 3 though

rob316

average_runner wrote: »

Here is my thoughts.

One of these 4 will get it: Unsworth/Hughes/Howe/Ancelotti.

I think it be one of the first 3 though

Absolutely no chance of Ancelotti, none.

Agent Smith

We all know there is only one man for the job....

Mr.Nice Guy

He looked finished after the Lyon game. I think Allardyce would be a good choice although I can't see Everton fans warming to him.

thebaz

as an Everton fan - I do not want Big Sam, Pullis or Moyes - we have a tradition of playing the right way - Anceolotti is very unlikely , Silva perhaps , or maybe Pellegrini (ex city) , maybe Howe - ther is a decent squad , good young players coming through , seams to be a big budget - right now we need a coach that coaches the right way and put together a team utilising availble talent - Ancelotti would be my preference, then Pellegrini .

Harry Palmr

One of Michael O'Neill, Martin O'Neill, Chris Coleman after the international break

Jayop

Harry Palmr wrote: »

One of Michael O'Neill, Martin O'Neill, Chris Coleman after the international break

Be amazed to see either O'Neill make a move before next summer.

There would be an irony if Martin O'Neill ended up there, the medical staff might be nervous...

Once again the Everton manager, master tactician of the blame game, has struck out in his comments today, criticising both myself and James McCarthy.

Perhaps a review of Everton's pre-season programme might provide some enlightenment.

James had a magnificent tournament for the Republic of Ireland last summer during UEFA EURO 2016, playing his last game in very late June. He then returned to Everton after a very short break, but only 11 days later, he played his first of three games, all within an eight-day period, against Real Betis, Manchester United and Espanyol. Overloading?

It should be added that James last played for his country on the October 9, 2016 - almost half a year ago. Since that time he has been totally under Everton's supervision.

James is diligent and conscientious in his professional preparation.

Perhaps, in this instance, quiet introspection may serve the Everton manager and his medical staff better.

Moyes was great for Everton. I can't blame them for not wanting him back though. However fans feel about him leaving to go and take the United job is one thing, but his stock has plummeted in recent years as a manager. I really don't think he is the same manager who left Everton and if he were to retake the job at Goodison, I wouldn't bet against Everton being pulled into a relegation battle.

Everton have a far better team than current results and league position suggest. It shouldn't take Carlo Ancelloti to get the best from that group of players. Why would you want Ancelloti anyway? He would very likely up and leave as soon as one of Europe's title-winning teams came looking for him.

Granted, no manager is going to stay at Everton or any club for much longer than 5 years in today's industry, but I still think they should be looking for someone more stable than Ancelloti.

From the outside, it seems an attractive job and I don't think Everton will have trouble finding a decent manager. Talk of Big Sam and Redknapp is just a wind-up.

*Apologies if I just jinxed your club and it is in fact Big Sam*

Rekop dog

thebaz wrote: »

as an Everton fan - I do not want Big Sam, Pullis or Moyes - we have a tradition of playing the right way - Anceolotti is very unlikely , Silva perhaps , or maybe Pellegrini (ex city) , maybe Howe - ther is a decent squad , good young players coming through , seams to be a big budget - right now we need a coach that coaches the right way and put together a team utilising availble talent - Ancelotti would be my preference, then Pellegrini .

Not fair to lump Sam into that same category. He's a pragmatist, he'd play tight defensive stuff against the bigger sides but alters his style for opposition. He's a master tactician, always ahead of his time with analytics and a great man manager. It's lazy and basic to pigeon hole as just a relegation specialist as many do.
Standout British manager since Fergie retired. Everton would be lucky to get him.

If he didn't have a white trash demeanor or get involved in shady dealings he'd at the very top of the game right now.

thebaz

Rekop dog wrote: »

Not fair to lump Sam into that same category. He's a pragmatist, he'd play tight defensive stuff against the bigger sides but alters his style for opposition. He's a master tactician, always ahead of his time with analytics and a great man manager. It's lazy and basic to pigeon hole as just a relegation specialist as many do.
Standout British manager since Fergie retired. Everton would be lucky to get him.

If he didn't have a white trash demeanor or get involved in shady dealings he'd at the very top of the game right now.

no its not lazy - he's better than Pullis granted , but what has he actually won ?? - I would have very little interest in watching his brand of football - and don't warm to Martin O'Neill either - seen a enogh dull football at Everton in recent years.

davycc

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Harry Redknapp is making a few phone calls I'd say

The money was just resting in his dogs bank account!

But seriously for a second, he would fit good already has a decent relationship with siggy and he could bring back Stephen pienaar as a makeshift striker

Rekop dog

Rekop dog wrote: »

Not fair to lump Sam into that same category. He's a pragmatist, he'd play tight defensive stuff against the bigger sides but alters his style for opposition. He's a master tactician, always ahead of his time with analytics and a great man manager. It's lazy and basic to pigeon hole as just a relegation specialist as many do.
Standout British manager since Fergie retired. Everton would be lucky to get him.

If he didn't have a white trash demeanor or get involved in shady dealings he'd at the very top of the game right now.

Sure you could even say, if his name was Allardici he'd be a top 4 boss.

Everton deserve better IMO, but just going with what you and Sam say, I'd nearly like to see him get a crack at a strong English club with Top 6 potential.

Harry Palmr

I'd not be shocked if Everton as a very traditional British club look to a British manager (or an Irish one!) rather than Johnny Foreigner who is only looking at the budget anyway before moving on to some other club with cash.

nice_guy80

Pullis - no. Everton fans love him for popcorning the likes of the pool in games but he's not at that level.
Rogers - not a chance. There would be a mutiny
Big Sam - not a hope. caveman football
moyes - no. burned too many bridges.
Hughes? you don't know his history.

Everton has a tradition of going back to their own in times of crisis
Joe Royle
Howard Kendall

it'll be Unsworth with Ferguson.
Kevin Sheedy might be tempted back as a coach. even Arteta might come in

Ancellotti might take it on.
longest club in the top flight
9 league titles.
stadium in the pipeline.
billionaire owner

Rekop dog

thebaz wrote: »

no its not lazy - he's better than Pullis granted , but what has he actually won ?? - I would have very little interest in watching his brand of football - and don't warm to Martin O'Neill either - seen a enogh dull football at Everton in recent years.

He's hasn't been at a side close to good enough to win anything decent. But he's improved almost every team he's been at. Took Bolton from championship to a solid top half premier league side and even a season in Europe, they crumbled after he left.

Took Blackburn from relegation to solid midtable, they crumbled after he left.

Took West Ham from Championship to solid premier league side, they're starting to crumble.

He got a fairly awful Sunderland team playing well, they crumbled after he left.

He turned things around at Palace last season, again they look a lot worse without him this season.

Newcastle aside where he wasn't given a fair chance that's almost 15 years of overachieving with sides.

I've no doubt if given the chance he could turn Goodison back into a fortress where sides hate going, and have them consistently fighting for European spots.

Rumple Stillson

Think the timing is right for Sean Dyche and his stock is high enough he might be considered. Good move for him, not so sure about Everton.

The timing isn't right for Marco Silva but he would be the best fit in my opinion, has a much higher ceiling than Dyche.

nice_guy80

nice_guy80 wrote: »

it'll be Unsworth with Ferguson.
Kevin Sheedy might be tempted back as a coach. even Arteta might come in

Would be high risk stuff by a team in the relegation zone.

Jayop

Deleted User wrote: »

Would be high risk stuff by a team in the relegation zone.

Yeah, a steady hand is the order of the day normally in these situations.

thebaz

Rekop dog wrote: »

He's hasn't been at a side close to good enough to win anything decent. But he's improved almost every team he's been at. Took Bolton from championship to a solid top half premier league side and even a season in Europe, they crumbled after he left.

Took Blackburn from relegation to solid midtable, they crumbled after he left.

Took West Ham from Championship to solid premier league side, they're starting to crumble.

He got a fairly awful Sunderland team playing well, they crumbled after he left.

He turned things around at Palace last season, again they look a lot worse without him this season.

Newcastle aside where he wasn't given a fair chance that's almost 15 years of overachieving with sides.

I've no doubt if given the chance he could turn Goodison back into a fortress where sides hate going, and have them consistently fighting for European spots.

if mid table mediocracy is the aim - no better man - he's unproven at the top level, and though Everton are struggling now , would like to think our ambitions are higher - regarding the football, I dont warm to Sam's style - great for West Brom, Palace or Stoke - just think and hope Everton have higher ambitions.

dogbert27

Rooney for player manager!!!! :pac::pac::pac::pac:

Rekop dog

thebaz wrote: »

if mid table mediocracy is the aim - no better man - he's unproven at the top level, and though Everton are struggling now , would like to think our ambitions are higher - regarding the football, I dont warm to Sam's style - great for West Brom, Palace or Stoke - just think and hope Everton have higher ambitions.

Would you warm to Jose Mourinho? He'd have Everton playing dire stuff against half the sides in the league. But would probably improve them too. I'm not so sure brand of football actually matters to fans when they're winning.

It's a British obsession for teams/fans to want managers with high level experience. The top Italian or Spanish sides regularly hire managers who have had success at lesser domestic sides without actually winning anything. It really isn't the necessity you think it is.

The one question mark you'd have with those managers stepping up to a higher level is their character and could they deal with the scrutiny it brings, but Sam is probably one of the most self assured managers around.

Ulysses Gaze

With Bayern all loved up on Julian Nagelsmann as their next manager at the end of the season, why should Everton not go for Thomas Tuchel?

Noel82

Could see Ancelotti being a major disappointment, his league record is fairly poor considering the teams he's managed

nice_guy80

Unsworth is the new interim manager

you know nothing john snow

Anyone

Everton are in the relegation zone, so staying up has to be their main priority, only 1 person for that Sam Allerdyce.

lawred2

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Unsworth is the new interim manager

you know nothing john snow

It'll be interesting to see what Unsy will do. Fully expect him to back homegrown youth.

JimmyMcGill

Just watch the players begin to play again. Sickening.

eh i dunno

The times reporting that in training last Friday he kept shouting long ball, long ball and the players just looked around bemused. 6m a year for donkey tactics

lawred2

eh i dunno wrote: »

The times reporting that in training last Friday he kept shouting long ball, long ball and the players just looked around bemused. 6m a year for donkey tactics

Sure Martin O Neill has made a long career out of it.

Tom Mann Centuria

If they, or Leicester were looking for an English manager they could do a lot worse than Chris Wilder at Sheffield United. His record over last few years is phenomenal.

Moyes or Big Sam.

Exciting times.

eh i dunno

RoboKlopp wrote: »

Moyes or Big Sam.

Exciting times.

You might be looking big sam yourself soon.

Arghus

Koeman can have no complaints.

I'd go after Marco Silva. Hull looked completely dead and buried last year until he took over and he gave them a fighting chance and he's done wonders with Watford this year. I like the cut of him, looks a proper manager.

Richard Hillman

thebaz wrote: »

as an Everton fan - I do not want Big Sam, Pullis or Moyes - we have a tradition of playing the right way - Anceolotti is very unlikely , Silva perhaps , or maybe Pellegrini (ex city) , maybe Howe - ther is a decent squad , good young players coming through , seams to be a big budget - right now we need a coach that coaches the right way and put together a team utilising availble talent - Ancelotti would be my preference, then Pellegrini .

I am in my early 30s and have never seen Everton play nice football over a sustained period of time. Its a bit like "The West Ham Way"

Richard Hillman

Whilst President of the Sam Allardyce fan club, Everton should be targeting cup competitions. Big Sam doesn't seem to bother with them. It may be different with a non traditional relegation team but Cups should be the currency.

Giggsy would be another good one. Is he holding out for Leicester though?

TheCitizen

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Pullis - no. Everton fans love him for popcorning the likes of the pool in games but he's not at that level.
Rogers - not a chance. There would be a mutiny
Big Sam - not a hope. caveman football
moyes - no. burned too many bridges.
Hughes? you don't know his history.

Everton has a tradition of going back to their own in times of crisis
Joe Royle
Howard Kendall

it'll be Unsworth with Ferguson.
Kevin Sheedy might be tempted back as a coach. even Arteta might come in

Ancellotti might take it on.
longest club in the top flight
9 league titles.
stadium in the pipeline.
billionaire owner

What's this about Mark Hughes history? What has Unsworth done in management to get the Everton job?

bucketybuck

RoboKlopp wrote: »

Giggsy would be another good one.

Why?

TheCitizen

RoboKlopp wrote: »

Giggsy would be another good one. Is he holding out for Leicester though?

Why would Ryan Giggs be offered a top flight job in England? He needs to earn his stripes in a lower league