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RTÉ 6.1 News changes

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Under His Eye


    tretorn wrote: »
    Im glad shes off the air, there are too many women presenting the news now, its just so totally unbalanced.

    Hopefully they wont let her back, its time for a bit of testerone.
    The big Dee won't allow that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭backspin.


    tretorn wrote: »
    Im glad shes off the air, there are too many women presenting the news now, its just so totally unbalanced.

    Hopefully they wont let her back, its time for a bit of testerone.

    It does need a better balance.

    All women = progress
    All men = patriarchy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭Conor84


    It does strike me how women dominated the news presenter roles in RTE - probably a good thing but not automatically so.

    I dont know who are the regular presenter/presenters of the 1 O Clock news but lets say its 50/50 with rrotating presenters.

    Six One has two full time female presenters.

    The Nine O'Clock news is rotated between Sharon ni Bheolain and Eileen Dunne.

    So the main TV news programmes (by length) have 87.5% female presenters.

    On radio the main news programmes also tend to be presented by women.

    Morning Ireland has arota of 4 presenters - Bryan Dobson. Gavin Jennings, Rachel English and Audrey Carville so a 50/5o split.

    The News At One is presented by Aine Lalor and Clare Byrrne.

    Driveiime is with Mary Wilson.

    The Late Debate has Sarah McInerney 3 nights a week with Katie Hannon covering for maternity leave.

    So the main radio current affairs programmes (by length) have 83% female presenters.

    Again not a bad thing but nobody would ever think it judging by the calls to address the under representation of women in such roles.

    Even sadder for me to have noticed, and maybe connected to this story is the difference in how Eileen Dunne and Sharon Ni Bheolain are tasked on the days they do the Nine O'Clock news. On the weekdays when Eileen Dubbe is on dury she will start with the 3pm radio news after Liveline and do the news on Drivrtime as well. When Sharon Ni Bheolain does the 9 O'Clock news she never does the afternoon radio news shift with someone like Shane mcGabhann covering that. Always thought that was an odd set up and wondered if her cobtrac contract was a lot better than Eileen dunne's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,717 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Thats interesting that NiBheolain doesnt do the 3pm or drivetime news on the radio. It sounds like there is a power struggle in the newsroom between NiBheolain and her boss the Head of News John Williams. It seems that Sharon wanted be the one to break the news of Therasa Mays survival of the no confidence vote in the Commons but Williams usurped her by having Catrionia Perry report the news from directly outside the Commons. Getting Perry to report it makes sense- why else have her over in London with an outside broadcast camera crew if she wasnt going to report what was happening?

    The results of the vote of no confidence was scheduled in the Commons to be released at 9pm and Perry was on location anyway from the 6pm news. Ni Bheolain didnt like 'her show' being used like this so she throws her toys out of the pram and says its my ball and Im going home. And now she has put in a complaint about her boss. Its unbelievable Jeff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭juneg


    In my opinion the vote from London was not in time for the six one news. It was to be the main story on the nine o clock news. That's Sharon's airtime therefore it's Sharon's big story to break not Catriona Perry's. Otherwise Sharon's just being treated like a continuity announcer. I just have a feeling this would absolutely not have been tried on Dobbo.
    RTE should have had a London correspondent there instead of flying Catriona Perry over in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭backspin.


    juneg wrote: »
    In my opinion the vote from London was not in time for the six one news. It was to be the main story on the nine o clock news. That's Sharon's airtime therefore it's Sharon's big story to break not Catriona Perry's. Otherwise Sharon's just being treated like a continuity announcer. I just have a feeling this would absolutely not have been tried on Dobbo.
    RTE should have had a London correspondent there instead of flying Catriona Perry over in the first place.

    I dunno, it sounds a bit insecure on Sharon's part. I can't imagine Dobbo giving a damn about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    If he did he'd not go off on one and then refuse to calm the **** down for two days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Keplar240B


    Why do we need the state to tell us what the news is?

    It is incredible in a democracy that the state can dominate television and radio like it it does in Ireland and jail people who refuse to pay for it.

    RTE should be cut to the bone and the licence fee scraped and whats left paid for thru normal taxation.

    77% of the Irish public regards
    RTÉ Television News as its main source of
    both Irish and international news.
    Source: TNS-mrbi RTÉ Corporate Reputation Survey 2006


    https://www.rte.ie/documents/about/news.pdf

    Show me one other Mature democracy where this is case?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,683 ✭✭✭DeepBlue


    juneg wrote: »
    RTE should have had a London correspondent there instead of flying Catriona Perry over in the first place.
    RTE's London Correspondent, Fiona Mitchell, would have had more of a reason to flounce off in a huff. She's the London Correspondent and she is displaced by Perry for, potentially, one of the biggest stories from London in the year.

    Maybe Sharon has too high an opinion of her own competence? Her interview technique is cringe worthy if you compare it to Dobbo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭Always number 1


    DeepBlue wrote: »
    RTE's London Correspondent, Fiona Mitchell, would have had more of a reason to flounce off in a huff. She's the London Correspondent and she is displaced by Perry for, potentially, one of the biggest stories from London in the year.

    Maybe Sharon has too high an opinion of her own competence? Her interview technique is cringe worthy if you compare it to Dobbo.

    She comes across as a bit of a sneer on Crimecall too. Over rated and definitely over paid


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭juneg


    Mitchell's London post doesn't start until January.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,698 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    juneg wrote: »
    Mitchell's London post doesn't start until January.

    Start ? Fiona Mitchell is the Current London correspondent though isn't she ?

    Also why is Sharon taking a case against the DG of RTE ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,717 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    backspin. wrote: »
    I dunno, it sounds a bit insecure on Sharon's part. I can't imagine Dobbo giving a damn about it.

    It does for sure. I know there is competition between print journalists to be the first to get a 'scoop' to break news but that doesnt apply in this instance, it seems Sharon just wanted to be the one who read the news off the autocue. Perhaps she sees herself as the 'senior' news anchor and allowing Perry to report it was an insult to her seniority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,717 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    DeepBlue wrote: »
    RTE's London Correspondent, Fiona Mitchell, would have had more of a reason to flounce off in a huff. She's the London Correspondent and she is displaced by Perry for, potentially, one of the biggest stories from London in the year.

    Fiona Mitchell would definitely have reason to have her nose out of joint, London is her territory per se so flying Perry out there must have rankled with her too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,698 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Does anyone not like how Catriona Perry still sticks her oar in on US based stories even though RTE have a dedicated Washington correspondent for the very purpose of covering the american stories ? She isn't the correspondent for that area anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,763 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Does anyone not like how Catriona Perry still sticks her oar in on US based stories even though RTE have a dedicated Washington correspondent for the very purpose of covering the american stories ? She isn't the correspondent for that area anymore.


    RTE news is far too dominated by US news which has little or no bearing on Ireland. What percentage of the news budget is blown in US news? Surely Australian news should be near the same if it's catering for de family out foreign they are catering for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    Amidst all of this news with Ní Bheolain's spat with Williams. RTÉ have made another appointment to their news team.

    They have appointed Vincent Kearney to be their NI Correspondent. He is currently with BBC Newsline as Home Affairs Correspondent.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-46667149

    He is also Brendan Wright's replacement as he has now retired from RTÉ News.

    https://twitter.com/WilliamsJon/status/1076800724732911617


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,973 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Amidst all of this news with Ní Bheolain's spat with Williams. RTÉ have made another appointment to their news team.

    They have appointed Vincent Kearney to be their NI Correspondent. He is currently with BBC Newsline as Home Affairs Correspondent.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-46667149

    He is also Brendan Wright's replacement as he has now retired from RTÉ News.

    https://twitter.com/WilliamsJon/status/1076800724732911617

    Aaah Brendan Wright is retired... was a fixture for yonks, and looked like the real old time newshound.

    Very good operator, wish him well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,883 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I couldn’t stand Brendan Wright. Talk about being 1 dimensional

    And the length of time it took him to sign off!!

    Brendan Wright

















    AreTÉ News

























    Belfast.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭EdgeCase


    RTE news is far too dominated by US news which has little or no bearing on Ireland. What percentage of the news budget is blown in US news? Surely Australian news should be near the same if it's catering for de family out foreign they are catering for?

    I disagree. It's not to do with the impact of the news on Irish Americans, rather the fact that US policy has profound impacts on Ireland's economy. What goes on in Australian politics may be of interest to those living there but it has zero impact on Irish or global economics.

    The US is also our second largest trading partner after the EU and a huge source of inward investment.

    Changes in policies there have impact here.

    They have one US correspondent and that's it. It's hardly overkill.

    The alternative would be to rely on coverage from US or UK news outlets who may not even see how stories impact Ireland.

    Also using regular US correspondents from other channels isn't free of charge either. It's fine for the odd report here and there but when you've a large volume of stories the bills mount quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭brian_t


    According to the Indo Sharon Ní Bheolain will return to RTE One's 'Nine O'Clock News' tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,717 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    DeepBlue wrote: »
    Maybe Sharon has too high an opinion of her own competence? Her interview technique is cringe worthy if you compare it to Dobbo.

    Always been a fan of Dobbo but lets not forget he got spun a yarn by Bertie and his crocodile tears when a hard interview was required. Jeremy Paxman he ain't.
    I couldn’t stand Brendan Wright. Talk about being 1 dimensional

    And the length of time it took him to sign off!!
    .

    haha he did take ages! Also the way he gripped the mircophone, sqeezing it as if some scrote off camera was about to nick it from him live on air :D
    I wish him a nice retirement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,839 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    I couldn’t stand Brendan Wright. Talk about being 1 dimensional

    And the length of time it took him to sign off!!

    Brendan Wright

















    AreTÉ News

























    Belfast.

    Jaysus, I thought old Brendan Wright Of Our Northern Staff had been pensioned off years ago!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,089 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Sharon has always been a poor broadcaster, unable to deal with breaking news and interviews.

    There's no way people like her or Anges Macrianna would ever get a job on the BBC or Sky News.

    RTE News is the brand, not the presenters. This is something that Sharon seems to have forgotten.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,089 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Conor84 wrote:
    It does strike me how women dominated the news presenter roles in RTE - probably a good thing but not automatically so.


    Perhaps a lot of presenters are female, but there still isn't gender balance. Most of their senior correspondents are male. Europe, American, Business, Economics, Agriculture, Technology, Health, Political are all male. Plus most of their regional correspondents are male - Dublin, Southern, South East, Midlands, Western, North East, Belfast. So most of the reporters featured in the bulletins are male.

    So you're assumption about the tide turning isn't correct. And RTE 's head of news is a man.

    Anyway this isn't a male female issue.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,089 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    EdgeCase wrote:
    I disagree. It's not to do with the impact of the news on Irish Americans, rather the fact that US policy has profound impacts on Ireland's economy. What goes on in Australian politics may be of interest to those living there but it has zero impact on Irish or global economics.

    EdgeCase wrote:
    Changes in policies there have impact here.


    RTE does not focus on these policies when it's covering US stories.

    Bad weather in the States regularly gets a report on Irish bulletins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,276 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    backspin. wrote:
    I dunno, it sounds a bit insecure on Sharon's part. I can't imagine Dobbo giving a damn about it.


    Yeah. And for those who are watching, who the hell cares who breaks what news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    "RTE reporter Damien Tiernan becomes latest shock departure from broadcaster as he quits role as South East correspondent"

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/rte-damien-tiernan-reporter-ireland-13801487


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    Wombatman wrote: »
    "RTE reporter Damien Tiernan becomes latest shock departure from broadcaster as he quits role as South East correspondent"

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/rte-damien-tiernan-reporter-ireland-13801487

    Big news in media land but does anybody in the country really care?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,973 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Big news in media land but does anybody in the country really care?

    Doubt if it was big news anywhere outside Wickla or Waxxfurd.........?


    Was it voluntary redundancy I wonder, and do we have details of the lump:eek:


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    Voluntary redundancy. He's got 23 years done so he's probably max'd out the package?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,973 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Voluntary redundancy. He's got 23 years done so he's probably max'd out the package?

    23 hrs..... doubt it, but should be fairly hefty all the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,883 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    do we have details of the lump:eek:


    Given the fact it’s RTÉ, he’ll probably get €437,000 more than he’s owed, just in case he knows something!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    DeepBlue wrote: »
    RTE's London Correspondent, Fiona Mitchell, would have had more of a reason to flounce off in a huff. She's the London Correspondent and she is displaced by Perry for, potentially, one of the biggest stories from London in the year.

    Maybe Sharon has too high an opinion of her own competence? Her interview technique is cringe worthy if you compare it to Dobbo.


    Sharon is a well respected, seasoned broadcaster and senior news anchor. Perry was a reporter up until last year.

    The issue is nothing to do with divas. It's to do with respect and management undermining a senior staff member in front of subordinates.

    There is a hierarchy in terms of news team. The issue I gather is that the senior news anchor wasn't consulted on the content or location of the 9 O'Clock News. The 6 O Clock news got preference to position themselves in London and therefore anchor both. That shouldn't have happened without discussion and consultation with the senior anchor.

    There is clearly a lack of communication and/or lack of understanding between the management and the senior members of the news team.

    Would this have happened when Dobbo was there ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Keplar240B wrote: »
    Why do we need the state to tell us what the news is?

    It is incredible in a democracy that the state can dominate television and radio like it it does in Ireland and jail people who refuse to pay for it.

    RTE should be cut to the bone and the licence fee scraped and whats left paid for thru normal taxation.

    77% of the Irish public regards
    RTÉ Television News as its main source of
    both Irish and international news.

    Source: TNS-mrbi RTÉ Corporate Reputation Survey 2006

    https://www.rte.ie/documents/about/news.pdf

    Show me one other Mature democracy where this is case?


    Are you answering your own questions ?

    People do not get jailed for not having a TV licence. They get jailed for not paying fines and ignoring court orders.

    Every country has a state broadcaster, otherwise we would have private individuals with their own agendas providing people with the news they want you to hear. Like God forbid anyone every gets themselves in the position that they control the so called independent media in Ireland. Couldn't happen, could it ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Big news in media land but does anybody in the country really care?

    Speculation locally he'll be making a move to WLR FM which has a vacancy for the mid morning discussion programme Deise AM.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,973 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    STB. wrote: »
    Are you answering your own questions ?

    People do not get jailed for not having a TV licence. They get jailed for not paying fines and ignoring court orders.

    Every country has a state broadcaster, otherwise we would have private individuals with their own agendas providing people with the news they want you to hear. Like God forbid anyone every gets themselves in the position that they control the so called independent media in Ireland. Couldn't happen, could it ?

    Anyone who listens to US radio would agree with you S.

    While I would see RTE as an overpaid, incestuos,nest of neckbeards and divas and liggers, I do agree that we need a State broadcaster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,973 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Speculation locally he'll be making a move to WLR FM which has a vacancy for the mid morning discussion programme Deise AM.

    Should get him to the State pinshun age without having to hit on the ‘lump’?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,883 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    STB. wrote: »
    There is a hierarchy in terms of news team.


    I would argue that the hierarchy is not from superiority, but rather the hierarchy of the sixone being RTÉ’s flagship news programme, and thus it’s presenters get to front the big news stories whatever time they are on.

    How often did we see Sharon and/or Brian fronting the news at 1pm or 9pm while they were the SixOne anchors when the story was big enough?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    I would argue that the hierarchy is not from superiority, but rather the hierarchy of the sixone being RTɒs flagship news programme, and thus it’s presenters get to front the big news stories whatever time they are on.

    How often did we see Sharon and/or Brian fronting the news at 1pm or 9pm while they were the SixOne anchors when the story was big enough?


    You could argue you that all you want but you wouldn't have a clue what you are talking about.

    The hierarchy is most certainly from seniority and suitability.

    The 9 O Clock news has higher viewership for a start.

    Secondly, its what the broadcast journos aspire to present.

    In the past Dobbo and Sharon did front outside broadcasts from location for both 6 & 9. They were already that senior.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Anyone who listens to US radio would agree with you S.

    While I would see RTE as an overpaid, incestuos,nest of neckbeards and divas and liggers, I do agree that we need a State broadcaster.


    I am one of those people.

    Yes there are plenty overpaid, especially on the so called entertainment side through their own production companies, Tubridy in particular . Not so much in the newsroom. Comparatively government ministers in Ireland also get paid far too much.

    To put it in perspective, not everyone can perform open heart surgery and not everyone is a natural broadcaster, but most think they could do the latter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,973 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    STB. wrote: »
    I am one of those people.

    Yes there are plenty overpaid, especially on the so called entertainment side through their own production companies, Tubridy in particular . Not so much in the newsroom. Comparatively government ministers in Ireland also get paid far too much.

    To put it in perspective, not everyone can perform open heart surgery and not everyone is a natural broadcaster, but most think they could do the latter.

    Good call there S.

    I’m interested that you refer to the “entertainment side”.

    Who would they be?

    My experience is that the entertainment industry is at its busiest around the holiday period, the pantos, The pubs, the restaurants, the cinemas, the theatres.

    Tubridy hasn’t been seen all over the holiday period?

    Several of those in the so called ‘entertainment business’ presumably employed by RTE have been appearing in ‘other productions’ over the holiday period.

    What’s the story there?

    Now ,I’m not putting any pressure to reply to this , I understand your sit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭brick man


    When RTE News gets its makeover will News Now get one or is it heading for closure or does anybody have an update .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Still on half measures, even Channel 4 news is back to an hour from tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,973 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Still on half measures, even Channel 4 news is back to an hour from tonight.

    Yes and the presenter seems just to want to get the fork out of the place.

    Terrible treatment for the taxpayer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Good call there S.

    I’m interested that you refer to the “entertainment side”.


    I think your reading too much into what I said.

    Entertainment = DJ's and Radio/TV Presenters

    The majority are on contracts and RTE pay these "production" companies, many of which are receptacles for RTE payments.

    Example

    Ray Darcy's company is called Whatnext Productions Ltd.

    Ryan Tubridy's is called Tuttle Productions Ltd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    brick man wrote: »
    When RTE News gets its makeover will News Now get one or is it heading for closure or does anybody have an update .


    There is just one factor determining its future. The ability to accept advertising from which it is currently precluded.

    The Communications Minister and Government will have to sanction this. They either get it or it shuts down most likely in the coming months.

    Given the shenanigans that went on with the carriage costs of the Oireachtas Tv channel on the Saorview platform (whereby the TDs expected RTE to do it for free), unlike Sky where the Houses of the Oireachtas are paying a discounted 250k per year for carriage, I can see agreement being reached on some form of contra deal basis. RTE (2RN) currently have a discounted agreement with the Oireachtas to provide the channel for 250k also (it should be 900k).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,717 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    STB. wrote: »

    Example

    Ray Darcy's company is called Whatnext Productions Ltd.

    Ryan Tubridy's is called Tuttle Productions Ltd.

    Does the practice of RTE staffers having their own production companies for outsourced work from the mothership still go on? I remember Miriam O'Callaghan and her husband founded and owned Mint Productions which produced several outsourced multi part documentaries for RTE including Haughey and Bertie. Nice money for a sideline business to the main job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,293 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Does the practice of RTE staffers having their own production companies for outsourced work from the mothership still go on? I remember Miriam O'Callaghan and her husband founded and owned Mint Productions which produced several outsourced multi part documentaries for RTE including Haughey and Bertie. Nice money for a sideline business to the main job.
    It was the hubbie's full-time business at that time. They closed it down when he took on a role with BBC NI.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,279 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    Full measures back this evening with Keelin and Catriona sitting down all through.Sports news still the standing up variety.Major changes then for 2019 lol.


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