RTÉ 6.1 News changes

honeybear

hawkwing wrote: »

Sharon attacked by a fly just now,i thought it was on my screen and then saw her trying to get away from it:eek:

It was a bit random alright

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Last week they were reporting from The Young Scientist Awards, and said how there were more girls than boys involved for the 4th year in a row. That seemed fine, but after the report they had a live discussion between three women who managed to spin the narrative into how women are still victims in the STEM sector and men have it easier.

I'm actually gobsmacked by the change of direction in how news is reported by the national broadcaster. Listening to three middle class women discuss how women are not being treated fairly when there is a higher female participation rate at the awards was enough for me to turn it off. Haven't watched RTE since.

I won't be listening to their spin anymore. This wasn't the first time I noticed a clear slanted narrative being pushed either. It seems every other day there would be a biased report.

Brendan Bendar

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Last week they were reporting from The Young Scientist Awards, and said how there were more girls than boys involved for the 4th year in a row. That seemed fine, but after the report they had a live discussion between three women who managed to spin the narrative into how women are still victims in the STEM sector and men have it easier.

I'm actually gobsmacked by the change of direction in how news is reported by the national broadcaster. Listening to three middle class women discuss how women are not being treated fairly when there is a higher female participation rate at the awards was enough for me to turn it off. Haven't watched RTE since.

I won't be listening to their spin anymore. This wasn't the first time I noticed a clear slanted narrative being pushed either. It seems every other day there would be a biased report.

Good observation, on almost every item now there is a subtle and not so subtle ‘insert’ about gender equality.

It’s getting fairly obvious that this is a driven agenda either from the top or the presenters involved or the producers .

Under His Eye

It is coming straight from the DG's office.

Mad_maxx

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Last week they were reporting from The Young Scientist Awards, and said how there were more girls than boys involved for the 4th year in a row. That seemed fine, but after the report they had a live discussion between three women who managed to spin the narrative into how women are still victims in the STEM sector and men have it easier.

I'm actually gobsmacked by the change of direction in how news is reported by the national broadcaster. Listening to three middle class women discuss how women are not being treated fairly when there is a higher female participation rate at the awards was enough for me to turn it off. Haven't watched RTE since.

I won't be listening to their spin anymore. This wasn't the first time I noticed a clear slanted narrative being pushed either. It seems every other day there would be a biased report.

Yeah saw that too, after an hour, was sore from being beaten over the head with all the feminist politics

Mad_maxx

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Good observation, on almost every item now there is a subtle and not so subtle ‘insert’ about gender equality.

It’s getting fairly obvious that this is a driven agenda either from the top or the presenters involved or the producers .

RTE has always been a bastion of PC ideology, they just hide it less now

dublinman1990

I heard some information about the One O'Clock News for next week. It won't be back for it's 30 minute slot until the 28th of January. There has been a delay in getting Studio 3 rebuilt for the relaunch which was supposed to be unveiled for next week. The One O'Clock News will remain at 15 minutes on RTÉ One from the 21st to the 25th of January. With that in mind; RTÉ News could have their relaunch on any date between the 26th & 28th of January.

"The launch of the new studio will be in late January 2019. The change in the duration of the One O’Clock News is not an indication, and we can confirm it will not be Monday 21st ... The announcement of an on-air date will be based on final operational and technical considerations."

backspin.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Last week they were reporting from The Young Scientist Awards, and said how there were more girls than boys involved for the 4th year in a row. That seemed fine, but after the report they had a live discussion between three women who managed to spin the narrative into how women are still victims in the STEM sector and men have it easier.

I'm actually gobsmacked by the change of direction in how news is reported by the national broadcaster. Listening to three middle class women discuss how women are not being treated fairly when there is a higher female participation rate at the awards was enough for me to turn it off. Haven't watched RTE since.

I won't be listening to their spin anymore. This wasn't the first time I noticed a clear slanted narrative being pushed either. It seems every other day there would be a biased report.

I notice more and more news programs in the UK and Ireland have majority female presenters and indeed guests. The odd man appears to give the sport.. after the women have dealt with the serious matters of the day of course.

hotmail.com

backspin. wrote:

I notice more and more news programs in the UK and Ireland have majority female presenters and indeed guests. The odd man appears to give the sport.. after the women have dealt with the serious matters of the day of course.

Not true at all. The majority of presenters and reporters and contributors are men, despite recent attempts to address the issue.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

hotmail.com wrote: »

Not true at all. The majority of presenters and reporters and contributors are men, despite recent attempts to address the issue.

When it comes to news reporting, there is a very clear female dominance. And that wouldn't even be a problem, but RTE are pushing an obvious pro woman agenda. It is as clear as day.

Report what's happening in the world. Stop spinning it to suit a convenient narrative.

Women are no more victims of the harshness of life than men, or poor people, or black people or whatever. Pushing the story that women have life so hard is so insanely disingenuous.

nice_guy80

New Angelus insert.
When did that start?

AndrewJRenko

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

When it comes to news reporting, there is a very clear female dominance. And that wouldn't even be a problem, but RTE are pushing an obvious pro woman agenda. It is as clear as day.

Report what's happening in the world. Stop spinning it to suit a convenient narrative.

Women are no more victims of the harshness of life than men, or poor people, or black people or whatever. Pushing the story that women have life so hard is so insanely disingenuous.

Is there any chance you could identify a couple of recent examples of this 'pro woman agenda' in news reporting, just so we can understand where you're coming from please?

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Is there any chance you could identify a couple of recent examples of this 'pro woman agenda' in news reporting, just so we can understand where you're coming from please?

I think the reporting on The Young Scientist Awards is a fair example.

AndrewJRenko

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

I think the reporting on The Young Scientist Awards is a fair example.

https://www.rte.ie/news/education/2019/0111/1022719-young-scientist-winner/

So they reported the winners, one female visitor and two male visitors

Where's the "pro-women agenda " again?

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/education/2019/0111/1022719-young-scientist-winner/

So they reported the winners, one female visitor and two male visitors

Where's the "pro-women agenda " again?

I disagree with your response. You've linked to their article about it. But my point was clearly in reference to the live coverage on the TV.

When there is a higher participation rate of girls than boys, but the narrative being talked about is how females have it harder than males in the STEM sector then that is biased reporting.

The thing that stood out is the fact it was 3 middle class women. Who are speaking from a position of extraordinary privilege. Yet they are talking about how their gender is being treated unfairly. Men and women from a lower socioeconomic background have a much harder time of it.

Being lectured to by people who have a very comfortable life while playing the victim card doesn't stack up in regards to fairness. You're entitled to disagree with me but that's my honest opinion on the matter.

*I simply don't have the time to go through the RTE player to cite other examples. But if I had a spare few hours I could give a fair few more obvious examples of a gender bias in reporting.

Ireland trains

Looks like the revamp is due for Monday or the weekend.
Any chance there will be a preview of it

AndrewJRenko

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

I disagree with your response. You've linked to their article about it. But my point was clearly in reference to the live coverage on the TV.

When there is a higher participation rate of girls than boys, but the narrative being talked about is how females have it harder than males in the STEM sector then that is biased reporting.

The thing that stood out is the fact it was 3 middle class women. Who are speaking from a position of extraordinary privilege. Yet they are talking about how their gender is being treated unfairly. Men and women from a lower socioeconomic background have a much harder time of it.

Being lectured to by people who have a very comfortable life while playing the victim card doesn't stack up in regards to fairness. You're entitled to disagree with me but that's my honest opinion on the matter.

*I simply don't have the time to go through the RTE player to cite other examples. But if I had a spare few hours I could give a fair few more obvious examples of a gender bias in reporting.

If you're referring to this clip from day 1, what you call a 'lecture by well heeled women ' was 20 seconds out of a four minute report that quoted some remarks of the President.
https://www.rte.ie/news/player/six-one-news-web/2019/0109/#page=2

Muahahaha

She loves those faux leather biker jacket inspired tops, zips and all. First time I've seen her with her hair up in years too, she looks great

Brendan Bendar

Muahahaha wrote: »

She loves those faux leather biker jacket inspired tops, zips and all. First time I've seen her with her hair up in years too, she looks great

:eek:

You’ll have an arm like a fiddler crab if she keeps that look up:cool:

Pussyhands

Sick of these two, especially Perry. Ugh.

Ray Kennedy should have got the gig. He's the best newsreader of the lot.

nc6000

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1089886267452608513

squarecircles

really liking it, vidi wall looks to have increased in height,

lovely bright daylight effect with the lighting

Muahahaha

Studio and video wall look good but WTF is with that sofa? Its the news, not a daytime chat show. I'm just watching Against the Head right now and its looks like the 6.1 News robbed the sofa from them.

squarecircles

Eilleen Dunne has legs?!

she must be worn out getting up and down



good to see her moving about a bit.

i thought with the extra floor space they have now the camera work would be a bit more dynamic and fluid.

its still all very static and wooden.

Brendan Bendar

Pussyhands wrote: »

Sick of these two, especially Perry. Ugh.

Ray Kennedy should have got the gig. He's the best newsreader of the lot.

More meat on a tinkers stick after a fair day in Ballinasloe.!

UsBus

I see the two 6.1 birds got an extra lick of paint along with the studio....
Fecking hell, it's like watching Sky news from 20 years ago...rte forget, if you have a massive couch like that, you need presenters who are extremely comfortable in themselves.. can't wait to see Sharon fidgeting away on that couch...

TheRiverman

I don't know if she was in the Met Eireann Hq in Glasnevin or in RTE,but Joanna Donnelly got a new hairdo today to celebrate the new studio.

Ashleigh1986

What's the story with all the women on rte sports panels ???
There would be uproar if there were as many men on female sports panels !!!
Heaven forbid if the right person got the job , but no you must have so many men/ women / white / black / etc etc .
Sums up modern Ireland .
Every day this country gets more and more like the USA .

wirelessdude01

Ashleigh1986 wrote:

What's the story with all the women on rte sports panels ??? There would be uproar if there were as many men on female sports panels !!! Heaven forbid if the right person got the job , but no you must have so many men/ women / white / black / etc etc . Sums up modern Ireland . Every day this country gets more and more like the USA .

My dad actually commented on this to me at the weekend. Said every panel has minimum of one female on it now.

NIMAN

That new look cost 8162 licence fees.

Is that money well spent?

brooke 2

squarecircles wrote: »

really liking it, vidi wall looks to have increased in height,

lovely bright daylight effect with the lighting

Love it!

Pussyhands

Was there a need for more investment in the news studio again???

Mebuntu

Ashleigh1986 wrote: »

What's the story with all the women on rte sports panels ???

It's called PC Nonsense or, if you prefer, MTW (Mandatory Token Woman). The BBC are even worse. On Sunday they had two women in the studio for an FA Cup match.

The new backdrop to the news is awful. First of all, it's fake. There is no newsroom "outside". Then, when the camera is looking at the newsreader, the background is glaringly out of focus. Please do not adjust your eyes.

TheRiverman

Mebuntu wrote: »

It's called PC Nonsense or, if you prefer, MTW (Mandatory Token Woman). The BBC are even worse. On Sunday they had two women in the studio for an FA Cup match.

The new backdrop to the news is awful. First of all, it's fake. There is no newsroom "outside". Then, when the camera is looking at the newsreader, the background is glaringly out of focus. Please do not adjust your eyes.

Probably deliberately out of focus to mask the fake newsroom.

hotmail.com

wirelessdude01 wrote:

My dad actually commented on this to me at the weekend. Said every panel has minimum of one female on it now.

Shocking.

There's women on panels now.

Sardonicat

hotmail.com wrote: »

wirelessdude01 wrote:

My dad actually commented on this to me at the weekend. Said every panel has minimum of one female on it now.

Shocking.

There's women on panels now.

Two actual women! Two of them! TWO!

thebaz

Pussyhands wrote: »

Was there a need for more investment in the news studio again???

supposedly cost 1.5 million - and Dee Forbes banging on about massive mandatory licensee fee increases -

TheRiverman

Eileen Dunne struggling a bit tonight with the "standing up" news.Also why do all the female readers wear high heels,not the most comfortable footwear for work,no matter what it is.

EdgeCase

The set and presentation are fine, but the titles are abysmal. I would rate that as one of the worst news title sequences in Europe.

splinter65

Sardonicat wrote: »

Two actual women! Two of them! TWO!

https://youtu.be/Tv0ueEI4OBQ

Andrew00

Soccer Saturday/Special On SkySports now have at least 1 woman on the panel, all of which know absolutely f*ck all about the sport. People will cry and whinge over this but 99% of football fans will agree with me.

It’s gone mad so it is

Aceandstuff

EdgeCase wrote: »

The set and presentation are fine, but the titles are abysmal. I would rate that as one of the worst news title sequences in Europe.

And the music is even screechier now. It absolutely makes me cringe! I hadn't watched the news in a week until yesterday, and I almost gave up within the first ten seconds.

Pussyhands

Catriona Perry is up the duff!!

Great news...hopefully she never comes back and Ray Kennedy gets slotted into the 6.1.

Perry reminds me of kids who are told how to do their first communion speech...ultra slow and massive concentration needed.

splinter65

Pussyhands wrote: »

Catriona Perry is up the duff!!

Great news...hopefully she never comes back and Ray Kennedy gets slotted into the 6.1.

Perry reminds me of kids who are told how to do their first communion speech...ultra slow and massive concentration needed.

She's by far the best journalist in RTE. “Up the duff!” Really?!? Listen, the 1970s are calling, they want their old catchphrases back...

Steve F

1.4 million euro?? For that "New" set? LOL Someone was taken to the cleaners.
Music is WORSE
Do news programs in other countries mention/report on their new set/studio? ie BBC or Sky? I cringed when I saw it on "news now" and then one of them mentioned it at the end of 6.1
I now realize why I no longer watch RTE. I just had the misfortune to be in someone else home at the time

EdgeCase

I have to say that I'm really shocked at how people on some of these threads talk about Irish television presenters. They're normal people doing a job that happens to be public facing.

It's a small country and a small industry and these are real people.

It's possible to be critical of presentation style, direction, production and so on without resorting to personally insulting stuff or comments on people's physical appearance.

Pussyhands

splinter65 wrote: »

She's by far the best journalist in RTE. “Up the duff!” Really?!? Listen, the 1970s are calling, they want their old catchphrases back...

The best journalist in RTE spend her time reading from an autocue?

Pretty odd.

Pussyhands

EdgeCase wrote: »

I have to say that I'm really shocked at how people on some of these threads talk about Irish television presenters. They're normal people doing a job that happens to be public facing.

It's a small country and a small industry and these are real people.

It's possible to be critical of presentation style, direction, production and so on without resorting to personally insulting stuff or comments on people's physical appearance.

No problem for me. They're getting well paid for being in the public eye.

Steve F

Pussyhands wrote: »

The best journalist in RTE spend her time reading from an autocue?

Pretty odd.

Ha Ha yeah...I often think even their ad-libs sound scripted :rolleyes:

Muahahaha

splinter65 wrote: »

She's by far the best journalist in RTE. “Up the duff!” Really?!? Listen, the 1970s are calling, they want their old catchphrases back...

If Catriona Perry is the best journalist in RTE then you'll be able to give us a list of major stories she has broken? None I can think of, in fact the highlight of her time as Washington corresspondent was when she giggled like a little girl when Trump called her over to his desk