Are we over the annual poppy thread?

FrancieBrady · 10-11-2017 10:35pm

citytillidie wrote: »

lol that is NI both sides for you forget what they have done and blame the other side

A person whose poppy will be prised from his cold dead hand talking about selectively forgetting.

ohnonotgmail · 10-11-2017 10:36pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Her body was recovered.

no thanks to gerry and his cronies. they told the police where they buried her but somehow got it wrong. not sure how you forgot something like that.

hopefully Ivor Bell gets to spend the rest of his days in prison. its a pity they cant arrange a cell for gerry next to him.

end of the road · 10-11-2017 10:37pm

maryishere wrote: »

They are a legitimate political party now, I'll give you that, although I would still not trust where all of their funding is coming from / has come from.

However to say they "had nothing to do with the killings during the troubles" is stretching it a bit: they seems in many peoples minds to have been a large overlap in membership, from Gerry Adams and McGuinness down.

there is no evidence jerry adams was a member of the ira.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

that crap must have been posted at least 100 times in the course of this thread, if not a lot more. it doesnt get any closer to being true.

it's not crap. it's reality and fact. your belovid BA commited a huge number of murders.

maryishere · 10-11-2017 10:37pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Utter horsecrap. Typical unsurprising nonsense from the unconditional Anglophile that you are Mary.

Oh so I am an Anglophile now. You are grasping at straws by mentioning Bloody Sunday again for the 50th time in this thread. Change the record. Of the millions of people who served in the forces, only a handful of people were responsible for the murders on Bloody Sunday / Ballymurphy. The conflict in N. Ireland was more complicated than many young republicans would realise. For example, most people who rabble about Bloody Sunday do not know Republicans in Derry murdered 2 policemen - one catholic and one protestant - there a day or 2 before the Bloody Sunday riots, thus heightening the tension.

Sure there were some bad apples out of hundreds of thousands / millions of people.

If you lived in a G7 country, would you refuse to pay your taxes because you disagreed with the government using nuclear power, or having atomic weapons?

A Little Pony · 10-11-2017 10:38pm

nope wrong. filled with good politicians. they will be running this country soon, get preparing for it.

In what parallel universe is this happening in? The delusion in this post is astonishing.

FrancieBrady · 10-11-2017 10:38pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

no thanks to gerry and his cronies. they told the police where they buried her but somehow got it wrong. not sure how you forgot something like that.

Wrong again, the ICLVR said they were entirely happy with the engagement of the IRA and were satisfied they did all they could.

ohnonotgmail · 10-11-2017 10:39pm

end of the road wrote: »

there is no evidence jerry adams was a member of the ira.

it's not crap. it's reality and fact. your belovid BA commited a huge number of murders.

again you try to grasp the point and fail completely.

end of the road · 10-11-2017 10:40pm

maryishere wrote: »

Oh so I am an Anglophile now. You are grasping at straws by mentioning Bloody Sunday again for the 50th time in this thread. Change the record. Of the millions of people who served in the forces, only a handful of people were responsible for the murders on Bloody Sunday / Ballymurphy. The conflict in N. Ireland was more complicated than many young republicans would realise. For example, most people who rabble about Bloody Sunday do not know Republicans in Derry murdered 2 policemen - one catholic and one protestant - there a day or 2 before the Bloody Sunday riots, thus heightening the tension.

Sure there were some bad apples out of hundreds of thousands / millions of people.

If you lived in a G7 country, would you refuse to pay your taxes because you disagreed with the government using nuclear power, or having atomic weapons?

there was no violence the day before bloody sunday. as stated by the most recent enquirey. even the british government stated there was no justification for bloody sunday, that all the statements made by the members of the BA involved in the murders were lies

maryishere · 10-11-2017 10:41pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Her body was recovered.

And indeed forensic examination of her bones reveal she was tortured by the IRA. Charming.

end of the road · 10-11-2017 10:41pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

again you try to grasp the point and fail completely.

wrong again. i got the point. your belovid BA commited large scale murder. via themselves and various proxies.

ohnonotgmail · 10-11-2017 10:42pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Wrong again, the ICLVR said they were entirely happy with the engagement of the IRA and were satisfied they did all they could.

i'm sure they were thrilled to be led on a merry dance. im sure that gave gerry a good laugh

ohnonotgmail · 10-11-2017 10:43pm

end of the road wrote: »

wrong again. i got the point. your belovid BA commited large scale murder. via themselves and various proxies.

that doesnt even merit a reply. usual crap from you.

citytillidie · 10-11-2017 10:45pm

maryishere wrote: »

Oh so I am an Anglophile now. You are grasping at straws by mentioning Bloody Sunday again for the 50th time in this thread. Change the record. Of the millions of people who served in the forces, only a handful of people were responsible for the murders on Bloody Sunday / Ballymurphy. The conflict in N. Ireland was more complicated than many young republicans would realise. For example, most people who rabble about Bloody Sunday do not know Republicans in Derry murdered 2 policemen - one catholic and one protestant - there a day or 2 before the Bloody Sunday riots, thus heightening the tension.

Sure there were some bad apples out of hundreds of thousands / millions of people.

If you lived in a G7 country, would you refuse to pay your taxes because you disagreed with the government using nuclear power, or having atomic weapons?

What about the BA killing a mother of 6 when she was in her back garden ?

and i repeat it is widely known that support for the IRA was low up until Bloody Sunday. That was really the turn of the action from marches and riots to bombs and bullets

end of the road · 10-11-2017 10:45pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

that doesnt even merit a reply. usual crap from you.

no just a statement of fact. you don't have to like it but it's fact.

10-11-2017 10:47pm

maryishere wrote: »

Oh so I am an Anglophile now. You are grasping at straws by mentioning Bloody Sunday again for the 50th time in this thread. Change the record. Of the millions of people who served in the forces, only a handful of people were responsible for the murders on Bloody Sunday / Ballymurphy. The conflict in N. Ireland was more complicated than many young republicans would realise. For example, most people who rabble about Bloody Sunday do not know Republicans in Derry murdered 2 policemen - one catholic and one protestant - there a day or 2 before the Bloody Sunday riots, thus heightening the tension.

Yep, wouldnt surprise me if you mourned them more than the 14 murdered by the paras on Bloody Sunday. You've taken this angle before, somehow lessening the gravity of what happened on 30 January 1972. Have you bought your poppy yet for the weekend? Any chance you'll retract the lies you posted about Brendan Rodgers and James McClean on this thread?

FrancieBrady · 10-11-2017 10:49pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i'm sure they were thrilled to be led on a merry dance. im sure that gave gerry a good laugh

Well I have never seen evidence or video of republicans enjoying torturing and beating.
I have seen plenty of video of British soldiers enjoying torture and sending it to their mates for enjoyment lols.

That poppy sitting straight there?

ohnonotgmail · 10-11-2017 10:51pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Well I have never seen evidence or video of republicans enjoying torturing and beating.
I have seen plenty of video of British soldiers enjoying torture and sending it to their mates for enjoyment lols.

That poppy sitting straight there?

meh i'm not going to let myself sink to your level.

A Little Pony · 10-11-2017 10:54pm

It's probably time the thread met it's natural end, turned into an utter mess with the delusional post of the year claiming that Sinn Fein will soon govern the Irish Republic.

FrancieBrady · 10-11-2017 10:55pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

go away and shine your armalite. No intention of getting wound up by the likes of you.

I don't own an armalite be cause I have no need of one.

You own a poppy, how do those video after video make you feel about the BA?
Pretty horrendous stuff in them.

maryishere · 10-11-2017 10:59pm

end of the road wrote: »

there was no violence the day before bloody sunday.

There was plenty of violence to ramp up tensions before the stone throwing riots of Bloody Sunday.

Quote "On January 27, 1972, three days before Bloody Sunday, a routine police patrol on the fringes of "Free Derry" was ambushed by Provisional gunmen with automatic weapons. Sgt Peter Gilgunn, a 28-year-old Catholic, and a Protestant colleague, Constable David Montgomery, 20, died as 17 bullets ripped through their car."

Soldiers had been shot at too in Derry in the months before bloody Sunday, and some locals cheered as one dead British soldier was taken away.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1329300/Victims-of-McGuinnesss-Derry-Brigade-killers.html

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Well I have never seen evidence or video of republicans enjoying torturing and beating.

Forensics showed Jean McColville was tortured. Her body was just discovered by chance, due to beach erosion.

There were a few bad people on all sides, Francie;)

I still think the 120,000 Irishmen who volunteered to defend these islands and Europe against Nazism in WW2 were by and large good people, who deserve our respect.

citytillidie · 10-11-2017 11:02pm

maryishere wrote: »

There was plenty of violence to ramp up tensions before the stone throwing riots of Bloody Sunday.

On January 27, 1972, three days before Bloody Sunday, a routine police patrol on the fringes of "Free Derry" was ambushed by Provisional gunmen with automatic weapons. Sgt Peter Gilgunn, a 28-year-old Catholic, and a Protestant colleague, Constable David Montgomery, 20, died as 17 bullets ripped through their car.

Soldiers had been shot at too in Derry in the months before bloody Sunday, and some locals cheered as one dead British soldier was taken away.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1329300/Victims-of-McGuinnesss-Derry-Brigade-killers.html

Forensics showed Jean McColville was tortured. Her body was just discovered by chance, due to beach erosion.

There were a few bad people on all sides, Francie;)

I still think the 120,000 Irishmen who volunteered to defend these islands and Europe against Nazism in WW2 were by and large good people, who deserve our respect.

Nobody is saying they are not, what people don't like is that it also supports those who shot people on this Island

FrancieBrady · 10-11-2017 11:05pm

maryishere wrote: »

There was plenty of violence to ramp up tensions before the stone throwing riots of Bloody Sunday.

On January 27, 1972, three days before Bloody Sunday, a routine police patrol on the fringes of "Free Derry" was ambushed by Provisional gunmen with automatic weapons. Sgt Peter Gilgunn, a 28-year-old Catholic, and a Protestant colleague, Constable David Montgomery, 20, died as 17 bullets ripped through their car.

Soldiers had been shot at too in Derry in the months before bloody Sunday, and some locals cheered as one dead British soldier was taken away.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1329300/Victims-of-McGuinnesss-Derry-Brigade-killers.html

Forensics showed Jean McColville was tortured. Her body was just discovered by chance, due to beach erosion.

There were a few bad people on all sides, Francie;)

I still think the 120,000 Irishmen who volunteered to defend these islands and Europe against Nazism in WW2 were by and large good people, who deserve our respect.

When you have examples of what looks like systemic torture and inhumane treatment and in the case you mentioned (Bloody Sunday) the complete complicity of the judiciary to cover it up, I think it stretches beyond 'a few bad people' tbh.

The IRA are gone, the BA are still out there doing 'honorable' things.

10-11-2017 11:05pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

meh i'm not going to let myself sink to your level.

Ah, but the problem is the Paras sunk to an even lower level......

What Lee Clegg and his buddies got up to......

http://www.ditto-london.com/pigs-disco

http://www.angelfire.com/ia/ira/images/cr.jpg

end of the road · 10-11-2017 11:05pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

meh i'm not going to let myself sink to your level.

fair play for admitting you have been wrong. it takes a big person to admit when they are wrong.

maryishere wrote: »

There was plenty of violence to ramp up tensions before the stone throwing riots of Bloody Sunday.

Quote "On January 27, 1972, three days before Bloody Sunday, a routine police patrol on the fringes of "Free Derry" was ambushed by Provisional gunmen with automatic weapons. Sgt Peter Gilgunn, a 28-year-old Catholic, and a Protestant colleague, Constable David Montgomery, 20, died as 17 bullets ripped through their car."

Soldiers had been shot at too in Derry in the months before bloody Sunday, and some locals cheered as one dead British soldier was taken away.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1329300/Victims-of-McGuinnesss-Derry-Brigade-killers.html

Forensics showed Jean McColville was tortured. Her body was just discovered by chance, due to beach erosion.

There were a few bad people on all sides, Francie

I still think the 120,000 Irishmen who volunteered to defend these islands and Europe against Nazism in WW2 were by and large good people, who deserve our respect.

there was no rioting on bloody sunday. the BA murdered people for being irish.

maryishere · 10-11-2017 11:05pm

Less than 00.0001% of the support, if any, would go to such people.

10-11-2017 11:11pm

maryishere wrote: »

Less than 00.0001% of the support, if any, would go to such people.

Everytime I read your posts I'm reminded of Stockholm Syndrome.............

maryishere · 10-11-2017 11:11pm

end of the road wrote: »

there was no rioting on bloody sunday.

Wrong "The British Army had sealed off the original route so the march organisers led most of the demonstrators towards 'Free Derry Corner' in the nationalist Bogside area of the city. Despite this, a number of people continued on towards an army barricade where local youths threw stones at soldiers, who responded with a water cannon, CS gas and rubber bullets."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/bloody_sunday

The Catholic priest there too at the time is on record about seeing an armed Republican gunman.

He later became a Bishop and admitted it did not make him "flavour of the month" in Derry for a while.

A Little Pony · 10-11-2017 11:11pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

maryishere wrote: »

There was plenty of violence to ramp up tensions before the stone throwing riots of Bloody Sunday.

On January 27, 1972, three days before Bloody Sunday, a routine police patrol on the fringes of "Free Derry" was ambushed by Provisional gunmen with automatic weapons. Sgt Peter Gilgunn, a 28-year-old Catholic, and a Protestant colleague, Constable David Montgomery, 20, died as 17 bullets ripped through their car.

Soldiers had been shot at too in Derry in the months before bloody Sunday, and some locals cheered as one dead British soldier was taken away.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1329300/Victims-of-McGuinnesss-Derry-Brigade-killers.html

Forensics showed Jean McColville was tortured. Her body was just discovered by chance, due to beach erosion.

There were a few bad people on all sides, Francie;)

I still think the 120,000 Irishmen who volunteered to defend these islands and Europe against Nazism in WW2 were by and large good people, who deserve our respect.

When you have examples of what looks like systemic torture and inhumane treatment and in the case you mentioned (Bloody Sunday) the complete complicity of the judiciary to cover it up, I think it stretches beyond 'a few bad people' tbh.

The IRA are gone, the BA are still out there doing 'honorable' things.

A south Armagh man who was “crucified” by the IRA 10 years ago today was so badly beaten that doctors told his mother “they left nothing for us to fix”.

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/paul-quinn-murder-there-was-nothing-left-of-paul-to-fix-after-ira-beating-1-8206039

ohnonotgmail · 10-11-2017 11:12pm

end of the road wrote: »

fair play for admitting you have been wrong.

what are you ****ing on about now?

end of the road wrote: »

it takes a big person to admit when they are wrong.

that must make you a midget.

citytillidie · 10-11-2017 11:13pm

maryishere wrote: »

Wrong "The British Army had sealed off the original route so the march organisers led most of the demonstrators towards 'Free Derry Corner' in the nationalist Bogside area of the city. Despite this, a number of people continued on towards an army barricade where local youths threw stones at soldiers, who responded with a water cannon, CS gas and rubber bullets."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/bloody_sunday

The Catholic priest there too at the time is on record about seeing an armed Republican gunman. He later became a Bishop and admitted it did not make him "flavour of the month" in Derry for a while.

Oh and leave out the live rounds fired by the BA and the cover up by the government

Are we over the annual poppy thread?

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