General Rugby Discussion II

sydthebeat

https://www.ultimaterugby.com/news/franco-smith-to-take-over-as-italy-coach-in-2020/616443

Franco Smith to take over the Italian national side from 1 January 2020

ClanofLams

hahashake wrote: »

If he is successful then get a pretty penny coaching in France? Hell, if he's good enough, he could coach almost anywhere.

Or rake it in doing after dinner speaking and media, etc. Kidney is at London Irish despite his tenure ending negatively, Eddie had his chance with Biarritz (basketcase but he shouldn’t have taken the job so that’s on him), Jake White has been everywhere etc.

O’Gara is a long long way off the Ireland job anyway, he’s done well so far but will need to be a successful head coach somewhere and probably at Munster (seems unlikely he would coach another province) before he makes a short list.

ClanofLams

Speaking of O’Gara, good long interview with him and Scott Robertson here.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IMmOOzn9R-k

Shefwedfan

sydthebeat wrote: »

https://www.ultimaterugby.com/news/franco-smith-to-take-over-as-italy-coach-in-2020/616443

Franco Smith to take over the Italian national side from 1 January 2020

No word on Conor, done an exceptional job in the behind the scenes work but just hasn't got the wins on the field.



If Italy had any sense they would move him up as a Director of Rugby/over sight role

Hurrache

Shefwedfan wrote: »

If Italy had any sense they would move him up as a Director of Rugby/over sight role

I thought he had such a role? I know he went in as head coach but I thought he had a role in developing the game over there from a low level up?

Shefwedfan

Hurrache wrote: »

I thought he had such a role? I know he went in as head coach but I thought he had a role in developing the game over there from a low level up?

Yes and no.....


He went in as head coach but in reality he is suited to a more director of rugby role. If the head coach is getting sacked then as it stands O'Shea is out of a job. I never seen an official announcement to say they had moved him up to a Director of rugby role

hahashake

ClanofLams wrote: »

Speaking of O’Gara, good long interview with him and Scott Robertson here.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IMmOOzn9R-k

Posted it in the Super Rugby thread, a great watch.

Squatter

Shefwedfan wrote: »

An Irish coach the peak is managing Ireland , do that from 50-55 and then what you do at 56?

You sit back, count your money, play golf, go to the races, occasionally help the missus to mind the grandkids that your 5 (or is it 6?) children have produced and when you feel like a few bob you get the occasional well paid gig as a rugby analyst on various TV stations.

Sheer bliss!

Shefwedfan

Squatter wrote: »

You sit back, count your money, play golf, go to the races, occasionally help the missus to mind the grandkids that your 5 (or is it 6?) children have produced and when you feel like a few bob you get the occasional well paid gig as a rugby analyst on various TV stations.

Sheer bliss!

For about a week....then you would be bored off your trolley

Burkie1203

https://twitter.com/BectiveRangers/status/1128403085699833856?s=19

The Lost Sheep

Had been about to post that when saw it while back...
Some drop for Bernard....
Had been member of Bective years ago with some family still members(i think...) but have to laugh at Bective ever since going junior have talked about going back senior with multiple head coaches stating that as their aim but theyve never really been close and were in the relegation playoff to go down to 1B this season.
They'll never go near going up until they change their whole approach around underage and the social rugby teams within the club

DonVito

Yeah....have to laugh at them...

The irony of you of all people making that post.

Fair play to them. Hopefully it works out for Bernard. Good to have that level of experience helping out the club game.

Shefwedfan

Burkie1203 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BectiveRangers/status/1128403085699833856?s=19

Good to see him back in the Irish game, hopefully he gets a chance long term again with one of the provinces

freak scence

DonVito wrote: »

Yeah....have to laugh at them...

The irony of you of all people making that post.

Fair play to them. Hopefully it works out for Bernard. Good to have that level of experience helping out the club game.

yep best of luck to him , i thought he would stick to the tv work , which he seems more natural to.

Squatter

Shefwedfan wrote: »

For about a week....then you would be bored off your trolley

Try it and see! I've been doing it for a decade and it's still wonderful!

The Lost Sheep

DonVito wrote: »

Yeah....have to laugh at them...

The irony of you of all people making that post.

Fair play to them. Hopefully it works out for Bernard. Good to have that level of experience helping out the club game.

Get over yourself. Irony of me what?
Bective wont ever improve unless they totally change their approach at everything and just getting a big name in as head coach/director of coaching wont do anything especially get them going back to the AIL which is their stated aim on their website and has been since they dropped to junior rugby.
They wont attract players from the schools SCT teams unless they improve and they dont really do much with underage teams at all.
They regularly are a club slagged here in the junior rugby/metro threads for fielding questionable teams in cups with guys who havent played much in the leagues earlier in the season.....

kuang1

Christ the rugby forum here has gone down the tubes majorly in the last 6 months.

Maybe directly proportional to the drop-off in Irish rugby's achievements from last year's pinnacle...

There are 2/3 incessant posters here who are responsible for putting off a lot of the casual posters imo.
Shame. Used to be (at times) a fun place to visit and occasionally contribute to.

The ignore function is useful but it doesn't guarantee immunity from the slop and vitriol sadly.

I find myself reading less and less of the threads here, or deliberately avoiding them if I see certain usernames listed as last poster.

Is what it is I guess.

sydthebeat

sydthebeat wrote: »

https://www.ultimaterugby.com/news/franco-smith-to-take-over-as-italy-coach-in-2020/616443

Franco Smith to take over the Italian national side from 1 January 2020

Seems like someone shot their load on this

https://www.ultimaterugby.com/news/italy-deny-replacing-conor-o%27shea-with-franco-smith/616463

The Italian Rugby Federation has released a statement refuting one released by the Cheetahs on Tuesday announcing that Cheetahs' head coach Franco Smith will take up the Italy head coach role as of next year.

Shefwedfan

So ROG on Off the ball

La Rochelle is head coach. Next position is going to be head coach according to him.

Few offers from France. Also has offer from NZ...

He mentioned Ireland but is not going home yet, wants more experience and then head home.....never mentioned who in Ireland which was missed in my opinion, just said offers from Ireland....not that it was Munster, so would a job with IRFU been offered?

RugbyLover123

Shefwedfan wrote: »

So ROG on Off the ball

La Rochelle is head coach. Next position is going to be head coach according to him.

Few offers from France. Also has offer from NZ...

He mentioned Ireland but is not going home yet, wants more experience and then head home.....never mentioned who in Ireland which was missed in my opinion, just said offers from Ireland....not that it was Munster, so would a job with IRFU been offered?

He seems to have his pick of where he wants to go in France.. when he was naming out good sides in France it sounded like he was alluding to they were the ones that had offered him coaching roles (La Rochelle, Clermont, Toulouse, Bordeaux!)

As someone said there is no rush for him to come back. He has plenty of time. Id say he’s eyeing up a job on the Irish coaching team for the 2023 WC cycle. Sure once he coaches Munster and then Ireland what’s left for him? That’ll be his coaching peak. And he doesn’t seem like the person that would be happy retiring early.

Squidgy Black

RugbyLover123 wrote: »

He seems to have his pick of where he wants to go in France.. when he was naming out good sides in France it sounded like he was alluding to they were the ones that had offered him coaching roles (La Rochelle, Clermont, Toulouse, Bordeaux!)

As someone said there is no rush for him to come back. He has plenty of time. Id say he’s eyeing up a job on the Irish coaching team for the 2023 WC cycle. Sure once he coaches Munster and then Ireland what’s left for him? That’ll be his coaching peak. And he doesn’t seem like the person that would be happy retiring early.

He's held in high regards in France after his time with Racing. The national team were reportedly looking to get him onboard as a consultant for the RWC apparently.

Shefwedfan

Squidgy Black wrote: »

He's held in high regards in France after his time with Racing. The national team were reportedly looking to get him onboard as a consultant for the RWC apparently.

He mentioned that and both sides decided not to continue

yerrahbah

kuang1 wrote: »

Christ the rugby forum here has gone down the tubes majorly in the last 6 months.

Maybe directly proportional to the drop-off in Irish rugby's achievements from last year's pinnacle...

There are 2/3 incessant posters here who are responsible for putting off a lot of the casual posters imo.
Shame. Used to be (at times) a fun place to visit and occasionally contribute to.

The ignore function is useful but it doesn't guarantee immunity from the slop and vitriol sadly.

I find myself reading less and less of the threads here, or deliberately avoiding them if I see certain usernames listed as last poster.

Is what it is I guess.

+1

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Hopefully it's decent

thomond2006

I wish rugby would cop itself on and stop selling their licences for rubbish video games. The Bigben games have been a disgrace.

Either do Rugby 08 v2 or nothing.

errlloyd

thomond2006 wrote: »

I wish rugby would cop itself on and stop selling their licences for rubbish video games. The Bigben games have been a disgrace.

Either do Rugby 08 v2 or nothing.

The annoying thing is that 08 was incrementally better than 06, and it looked they were on a road to consistent improvement. If they'd kept it up we'd have a damn good game, I would buy every single year, and they'd probably only need to tweak it every now and then with an overhaul every 5 or 6 years.

Erik Shun

Israel Folau has been sacked by Rugby Australia this morning

sydthebeat

Erik Shun wrote: »

Israel Folau has been sacked by Rugby Australia this morning

Proper order too.

razorblunt

He'll just have to forgive them (for they know not what they do!).

sydthebeat

razorblunt wrote: »

He'll just have to forgive them (for they know not what they do!).

Didn't know you were a Bryan Adams fan