General Rugby Discussion II

Mookie Blaylock

Another pic of BOD & Umaga making up, without Guinness intervention

Hello, my name is Eddie Jones and I have absolutely no self awareness what so ever.

madds

Hi - I need a pair of wide-fitting rugby boots as I have some custom made orthotics I need to wear. My current Canterburys leave me in agony around the toes after wearing them. Would appreciate if anyone can point me in the direction of a pair of boots that are wide-fitting. Cheers.

Squidgy Black

madds wrote: »

Hi - I need a pair of wide-fitting rugby boots as I have some custom made orthotics I need to wear. My current Canterburys leave me in agony around the toes after wearing them. Would appreciate if anyone can point me in the direction of a pair of boots that are wide-fitting. Cheers.

Adidas Kakari are probably the widest boots I've used with the most support

sydthebeat

Deleted User wrote: »

Hello, my name is Eddie Jones and I have absolutely no self awareness what so ever.

hummmm

Te'o - Addison
Shields - Graham
Hughes - Moriarty, Polledri

if you wanted them Eddie, you shouldn't have imported players ahead of them.

sydthebeat

sydthebeat wrote: »

hummmm

Te'o - Addison
Shields - Graham
Hughes - Moriarty, Polledri

if you wanted them Eddie, you shouldn't have imported players ahead of them.

Dylan Hartley didn't leave New Zealand until he was almost 21 and played all his formative rugby there before signing for Worchester.

jr86

Hartley was way younger than that when he moved to England, only about 14 or 15 as far as I remember - he left school in NZ to do so

He was 20 when he joined Northampton though

jr86

jr86 wrote: »

Hartley was way younger than that when he moved to England, only about 14 or 15 as far as I remember - he left school in NZ to do so

He was 20 when he joined Northampton though

You could well be correct, someone mentioned to me when the whole Brad Shields thing happened over the Summer that by the time Hartley moved north he was too old for under age rugby and his first involvement with England was the development side (Saxons?).

sydthebeat

jr86 wrote: »

Hartley was way younger than that when he moved to England, only about 14 or 15 as far as I remember - he left school in NZ to do so

He was 20 when he joined Northampton though

he moved over in 2002 aged 16

Webbs

sydthebeat wrote: »

hummmm

Te'o - Addison
Shields - Graham
Hughes - Moriarty, Polledri

if you wanted them Eddie, you shouldn't have imported players ahead of them.

Cant believe I am defending Eddie Jones, but did he mention those players or was it a slight of hand by Robert Kitson to slip those names into the piece to stretch out a pretty much non newsworthy article

molloyjh

Webbs wrote: »

Cant believe I am defending Eddie Jones, but did he mention those players or was it a slight of hand by Robert Kitson to slip those names into the piece to stretch out a pretty much non newsworthy article

Where did you see that?

sydthebeat

Webbs wrote: »

Cant believe I am defending Eddie Jones, but did he mention those players or was it a slight of hand by Robert Kitson to slip those names into the piece to stretch out a pretty much non newsworthy article

im just pointing out the hypocrisy in his words by showing hes imported southern hemispehere players ahead of homegrown... so he should be as "thankful" to australia and new zealand as hes suggest ireland, scotland and wales should be to them.

i dont really care what he sh!tes on about to be honest.. .hes just stirring it up.

Dubinusa

Teo is not an international level player imo. Shields is a disappointment and Hughes is decent. England have turned away from the pool of talent in front of them and reached for the exotic overseas lad. That being said, a lot of the problems they have are caused by the clubs. The players are flogged and there is little concern for welfare. Eddie has very little control as compared to JS. Kick on the fact that he seems to stick with the same horses, who imo are past it. It's no wonder they have nosedived.

Buer

Dubinusa wrote: »

Kick on the fact that he seems to stick with the same horses, who imo are past it. It's no wonder they have nosedived.

From the team that started the final game of the winning 2017 6N campaign to the side that started against NZ last weekend, there were 10 changes.

Maybe he was slow to do it but Jones has definitely responded and cut some of the guys who had become complacent or weren't delivering along with a number of injury enforced replacements.

I think you'll be hard pressed to find a test coach who doesn't remain overly loyal to guys who have delivered for him in the past. The limited access that the coaches have to the players will always mean change is slow to happen.

Squidgy Black

Dubinusa wrote: »

Teo is not an international level player imo. Shields is a disappointment and Hughes is decent. England have turned away from the pool of talent in front of them and reached for the exotic overseas lad. That being said, a lot of the problems they have are caused by the clubs. The players are flogged and there is little concern for welfare. Eddie has very little control as compared to JS. Kick on the fact that he seems to stick with the same horses, who imo are past it. It's no wonder they have nosedived.

I don't think you can pick one player out of the starting 15 vs New Zealand or SA who is "past it" other than maybe Hartley, which is arguable.

If anything this year he's really changed the squad, not selecting the likes of Mike Brown and Haskell, starting Slade and bringing Ashton back into the mix.

Buer

Squidgy Black wrote: »

I don't think you can pick one player out of the starting 15 vs New Zealand or SA who is "past it" other than maybe Hartley, which is arguable.

And, if you believe the comments posted here recently regarding Jones' opinions of Hartley, he is viewed as absolutely critical to the side from a leadership perspective.

jr86

Squidgy Black wrote: »

I don't think you can pick one player out of the starting 15 vs New Zealand or SA who is "past it" other than maybe Hartley, which is arguable.

Yeah he's only 32 yet - which I found hard to believe, I assumed he was mid 30s by now - so still should have a few years left in him

Sabre0001

Chat between O'Driscoll and Umaga with Andrew Trimble, including some insight into training with Joe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLKc-pol8Ew

troyzer

Intense schadenfreude.

carrollsno1

Well lads anyone know of a place to stream tbe match live or to watch a replay afterwards? In a quiete spot in oz at the minute with very few irish around so none of the bars will be showing it live or doing a breakfast for it. Thanks in advance

Burkie1203

https://twitter.com/MailSport/status/1063574977709031424?s=19

kuang1

Burkie1203 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MailSport/status/1063574977709031424?s=19

What does "financial upheaval" mean?

Squidgy Black

kuang1 wrote: »

What does "financial upheaval" mean?

Cost cutting

kuang1

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Cost cutting

I would have thought that they have bottomless coffers though?

troyzer

kuang1 wrote: »

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Cost cutting

I would have thought that they have bottomless coffers though?

The RFU has been struggling financially for years. Most unions have. The IRFU is one of the only ones that makes a profit.

sydthebeat

After the game yesterday Sexton had gone from 2/1 to 1/2 for World player of the year

swiwi_

https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/sport/other-sport/bath-rugby-v-worcester-warriors-2231651

Monthey Rugby makes its mark at the Rec. Our prop Enzo didn’t find the weather so cold...

Sangre

sydthebeat wrote: »

After the game yesterday Sexton had gone from 2/1 to 1/2 for World player of the year

does the game get taken into account?

Sangre

Sangre wrote: »

does the game get taken into account?

I've no idea but I'd be utterly shocked if Sexton didn't get it at this stage. I am prepared to be utterly shocked however!

Burkie1203

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I've no idea but I'd be utterly shocked if Sexton didn't get it at this stage. I am prepared to be utterly shocked however!

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