Will there ever be a time when a woman will take on a man in the ufc?

badabing106

I think it was almost going to happen with Ronda rousey when she looked like she couldn't be beaten ...do you think it will happen?

No but I am sure it has already happened in some Japanaese organization.

traveller0101

Never

kwestfan08

Not a fear.

It would never get sanctioned first of all and it would set the UFC back 20 years of legitimacy. Also the men are far more skilled/stronger, it would be a non contest.

callaway92

No..it never should and it never will happen

Dtp1979

Unless Gabbi Garcia comes to town

dashoonage

Diaz choked out a little bitch a while back. Does that count?

.ak

dashoonage wrote: »

Diaz choked out a little bitch a while back. Does that count?

Hahah, that was pretty good in fairness! :pac:

Tigger

fallon fox

jcd5971

I seriously hope not and I'd doubt it would be sanctioned.

Also I'm trying to be careful here and not make light of anyone's identity or gender etc.

But isn't there a guy in a US college who transitioned ( not sure on correct terminology) from a man into a woman and competed in wrestling against natural( again not sure how to phrase that) women.

So it's an interesting question.
Personally I'd feel it's unfair as even though the person felt trapped in a man's body, it's still ( in terms of design, muscle etc) a man's body and therefore far more powerful.

Mellor

badabing106 wrote: »

I think it was almost going to happen with Ronda rousey when she looked like she couldn't be beaten ...do you think it will happen?

It was never going to happen with Ronda.
People who thought she'd get close to a 135lb man were insane.

jcd5971 wrote: »

But isn't there a guy in a US college who transitioned ( not sure on correct terminology) from a man into a woman and competed in wrestling against natural( again not sure how to phrase that) women.

So it's an interesting question.
Personally I'd feel it's unfair as even though the person felt trapped in a man's body, it's still ( in terms of design, muscle etc) a man's body and therefore far more powerful.

There are olympic/collegiate protocols for somebody to transition sexually and compete as their new gender. But there's a number of years before they are allowed to do it. They would have to have biological/hormonal traits of that sex, not just identify as. But the catch-22 is that hormone therapy would also exclude somebody under doping rules.

weemcd

There was a kickboxing/ Mauy Thai bout a few years back where a female champ took on a male. Details are sketchy but I'm 99% sure the male won. At a similar size I'd doubt many women could beat a man. The bone structure and power is going to always give the man the advantage.

jcd5971

Mellor wrote:

There are olympic/collegiate protocols for somebody to transition sexually and compete as their new gender. But there's a number of years before they are allowed to do it. They would have to have biological/hormonal traits of that sex, not just identify as. But the catch-22 is that hormone therapy would also exclude somebody under doping rules.

I'm no expert on the subject so I'll defer to you on it.

Mellor

jcd5971 wrote: »

I'm no expert on the subject so I'll defer to you on it.

Here's the IOC Olympic guidelines.. It's possible that there where some transgender athletes in Rio, was never confirmed though.

The above is strictly for olympic events obviously. But a Fallon Fox type situation would be similar

Vital Transformation

Mellor wrote: »

Here's the IOC Olympic guidelines.. It's possible that there where some transgender athletes in Rio, was never confirmed though.

The above is strictly for olympic events obviously. But a Fallon Fox type situation would be similar

Not transgender but Caster Semenya springs to mind.

jimmii

I've see this MT fight a couple of times she puts up some fight definitely looks to struggle power wise in the clinch.

https://youtu.be/qxOVQPe8jEA

There's an exhibition mma match too. She gets a nice quick take down!

https://youtu.be/dGlzOp-QQmg

walshb

Vital Transformation wrote: »

Not transgender but Caster Semenya springs to mind.

And she’d be deemed a really slow man at world/elite level..

Run of the mill men giving away considerable weight would still be far too strong and dangerous for any elite female in MMA...

The differences are staggering..

Mellor

walshb wrote: »

And she’d be deemed a really slow man at world/elite level...

Your looking at the wrong division. The concern is trans women competing in women's divisions. Not trans men in men's divisions.

walshb

Mellor wrote: »

Your looking at the wrong division. The concern is trans women competing in women's divisions. Not trans men in men's divisions.

I wasn’t looking at any divisions. I was just making an observation off Semenya racing against men.

You hear it with the Williams sisters as well...should be playing the men..

Nonsense. They’d get hammered..

Relating to the OP. My second and third sentences stand in my original post.

Mellor

walshb wrote: »

I wasn’t looking at any divisions. I was just making an observation off Semenya racing against men.

Yeah, I got that, but the controversy was (or still is) her competing against women. She has a supposed biologically advantage verses women, but still obviously disadvantaged verses elite males.

You hear it with the Williams sisters as well...should be playing the men..

Nonsense. They’d get hammered..

Well...they got hammered in actual fact.

Subcomandante Marcos

A decent amature male would beat the best women fighters in their weight class. The advantages to the male musculoskeletal system system in terms of strength are just too massive to overcome, no matter how good the woman's technique is.

You could grab a 115 19 year from SBG or Rhyno and they'd ragdoll Joanna for fun.

Mellor

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

A decent amature male would beat the best women fighters in their weight class. The advantages to the male musculoskeletal system system in terms of strength are just too massive to overcome, no matter how good the woman's technique is.

You could grab a 115 19 year from SBG or Rhyno and they'd ragdoll Joanna for fun.

Yeah, pretty mush. In the exhibition fights above, the guy is clearly just letting her work. Basically rolling as in training.

Vital Transformation

walshb wrote: »

And she’d be deemed a really slow man at world/elite level..

Run of the mill men giving away considerable weight would still be far too strong and dangerous for any elite female in MMA...

The differences are staggering..

Oh, wouldn't be advocating for that at all.

Was moreso thinking along the lines of Mellors words below.

Mellor wrote: »

Yeah, I got that, but the controversy was (or still is) her competing against women. She has a supposed biologically advantage verses women, but still obviously disadvantaged verses elite males.


Well...they got hammered in actual fact.

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Only if UFC = WWE

So, no.