Name these big trees

Lumen

It's that time of year where I agonise over tree choices for screening.

I want something crown-y that lets light under, the boundary hedging can deal with low level screening.

These are nice. What are they?

I'll probably be dead by the time they look like this but someone will enjoy them. :pac:

1. Scots pine? Black pine?


2. Hawthorn? Elm?

my3cents

Just guesses but the pine could be Pinus Radiata, its shape can be very variable but can grow into the shape in the picture as can a whole load of other pines. Pinus Radiata is a good choice as its a fast grower.

I did think Elm from the shape when I looked at the second pic but there are plenty of reasons for it not being an Elm. The bark looks a bit to smooth (Beech or Hornbeam) and the shape comes from it having been topped out at sometime so the shape is more likely due to pruning than species. The way its holding on to its leaves again leads me to think its a Beech or Hornbeam.

Lumen

my3cents wrote: »

Just guesses but the pine could be Pinus Radiata, its shape can be very variable but can grow into the shape in the picture as can a whole load of other pines. Pinus Radiata is a good choice as its a fast grower

Interesting. I did a bit of reading, the Forestry Service says ...

In Ireland, Monterey pine commonly suffers from the "yellows", a disease sometimes associated with the fungus Cyclaneusma minus which results in the yellowing and loss of all the previous years needles. The consequent dying off of immature trees can give rise to very open and heavily branched stands. However, trees of Guadlaupe Island provenance appear not to suffer from this disease.

I guess I'd have to ask the supplier about the provenance.

my3cents

Lumen wrote: »

Interesting. I did a bit of reading, the Forestry Service says ...



I guess I'd have to ask the supplier about the provenance.

They are planted a lot in the UK near the sea to make shelter belts. Fast growing, deep rooted and salt tolerant.

If you look up almost any pine you will find out that its been decimated in one way or another by an insect or a fungus so you just have to live with that.

Lumen

Could that pine be a Stone Pine?

Google Images suggests that the Stone Pine is quite consistent in shape, and meets my criteria of lots of trunk then a decent thick crown.

Oldtree

Couple of Conifer/pine id's that may help

my3cents

Any connection with Merrist Wood College Oldtree? I could probably hazard a good guess as to who wrote the original Pine ID.

Oldtree

my3cents wrote: »

Any connection with Merrist Wood College Oldtree? I could probably hazard a good guess as to who wrote the original Pine ID.

Spent 2 fabulous years there, and you my3cents?

my3cents

Oldtree wrote: »

Spent 2 fabulous years there, and you my3cents?

Head gardener for ten years on an estate not ten minutes walk away.

John Whitehead used to bring the arb students in for garden walks,practical classes, plant ID and even a bit of tree surgery work. Not too many gardens with 120 foot tall London Plane trees.